Took a club level safety course today. Was more of the same shit from the license test/course (I didn't even take the course, just did the test, and that was 4 years ago), then shooting 10 rounds at an 8.5"x11" paper from 5 yards with my Sig to prove I'm not a dumbass.
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;50109075]Took a club level safety course today. Was more of the same shit from the license test/course (I didn't even take the course, just did the test, and that was 4 years ago), then shooting 10 rounds at an 8.5"x11" paper from 5 yards with my Sig to prove I'm not a dumbass.[/QUOTE]
When I did my safety court for my licence they had us shoot at 20m with a .22lr rifle to prove we weren't retarded.
It's stupid that they even make us do it because it's not required by law, nor is it required by the CFO anymore. Other provinces also don't do this shit, it's just Ontario and Quebec.
[QUOTE=download;50109224]When I did my safety court for my licence they had us shoot at 20m with a .22lr rifle to prove we weren't retarded.[/QUOTE]
Don't forget the 4 steel silhouettes at 10m with the O/U.
They were so close together I hit all 4 with 2 shots and he told me to fire into the dirt with the last two.
Our club is tired of members not showing up after the first 6 months, so they are going to implement a policy that they won't sign off on applications until after 12 months membership and passing some sort of a shooting test
[QUOTE=Campin Carl;50110922]Our club is tired of members not showing up after the first 6 months, so they are going to implement a policy that they won't sign off on applications until after 12 months membership and passing some sort of a shooting test[/QUOTE]
And this is how you guarantee your club will be comprised by nothing but retired old people. It's stuff like this that makes me avoid clubs, even in the US.
[QUOTE=$$>MUFFIN<$$;50110596]Don't forget the 4 steel silhouettes at 10m with the O/U.
They were so close together I hit all 4 with 2 shots and he told me to fire into the dirt with the last two.[/QUOTE]
Wait hold on they had you shooting at steel silhouettes at 10m with shot?
What the fuck that is the complete opposite of 'safe'
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[QUOTE=Campin Carl;50110922]Our club is tired of members not showing up after the first 6 months, so they are going to implement a policy that they won't sign off on applications until after 12 months membership and passing some sort of a shooting test[/QUOTE]
Isn't the reason the vast majority of people join clubs in Norway just so they can get a gun? IIRC you HAVE to be a member of a club at least in name right?
I can only see this losing them a lot of their members, since it's not like there aren't other options right? They'll just go elsewhere.
[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;50111560]Wait hold on they had you shooting at steel silhouettes at 10m with shot?
What the fuck that is the complete opposite of 'safe'
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Isn't the reason the vast majority of people join clubs in Norway just so they can get a gun? IIRC you HAVE to be a member of a club at least in name right?
I can only see this losing them a lot of their members, since it's not like there aren't other options right? They'll just go elsewhere.[/QUOTE]
Never seen anyone complain about shooting steel targets with 7 1/2 club load except at really close distances.
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It's been 5 years since I did the curse but I think it was 10 or 15m.
Will you bake it a cake?
[QUOTE=Campin Carl;50110922]Our club is tired of members not showing up after the first 6 months, so they are going to implement a policy that they won't sign off on applications until after 12 months membership and passing some sort of a shooting test[/QUOTE]
Well in Denmark, you can only get private ownership for sports shooting if you have been an active member of a club/union for at least two years, and then you have to remain an active member and show up at least a handful of times every year to keep your permit.
To be honest, I'm completely fine with this, since Denmark is so damn small that it would be almost impossible to find a place to shoot a firearm anywhere, safely or legally, if you are not a member of a club/range.
Locally, we require that a shooter can place ten round fired from one magazine of a .22 target pistol in the center of a standard danish 210 x 290mm target at 15 meters, before they are allowed to shoot a pistol chambered in anything larger. This is mainly because we have had some damage done to the moving targets on our 25m pistol range in the past, and want to avoid it from happening again.
If you want to get a rifle or shotgun for hunting, then it's a completely different story. All you have to do is pass a test and demonstrate basic safety knowledge and shooting skills, and then you will be allowed to own a firearm for hunting, as long as you have your license.
[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;50111700][t]http://i.imgur.com/CnoNzXY.jpg[/t]
110 years old this month :)[/QUOTE]
Hey, one of mine is 110. I oughta take some beauty shots. Has it been refinished? It looks awfully pristine for a military rifle of that vintage.
[QUOTE=SirKillsAlot;50043370]After a long wait, it finally came in. Ridge you are going to love your M1.
[URL]http://s1355.photobucket.com/user/PCho222/slideshow/M1 Garand[/URL]
[T]http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/PCho222/M1 Garand/20160330_172601_zpsbelrrcxn.jpg[/T]
[T]http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q719/PCho222/M1 Garand/20160330_172842_zpsfttsndlr.jpg[/T][/QUOTE]
I still don't even have an order showing up on my account on their site :(
[QUOTE=download;50111574]Never seen anyone complain about shooting steel targets with 7 1/2 club load except at really close distances.
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It's been 5 years since I did the curse but I think it was 10 or 15m.[/QUOTE]
I was ALWAYS taught to NEVER shoot steel with shot, because it will bounce back at you, and that the smaller the shot the more likely it is to happen.
[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;50113127]I was ALWAYS taught to NEVER shoot steel with shot, because it will bounce back at you, and that the smaller the shot the more likely it is to happen.[/QUOTE]
IIRC you can shoot steel with lead, due to the impact pretty much disintegrating the lead bullet.
My hunter safety course in Florida had us shooting muzzleloaders at old street signs down range. The rangemaster said that the bullets disintegrated. No one died that day, so I took his word on it.
(I think I was ~10 years old at the time)
That or it will go through it. I remember my dad, brother and I were shooting his Mini 14 at a steel plate we hung up (~.25 inch thick I believe) that we used to shoot .22s at. We were so confused because we couldn't tell if we were hitting the plate because we didn't hear a ping. When we checked out the plate we just found the rounds going through it.
If you ever watch lead rounds hit a steel plate they don't shatter, they generally swage themselves into a chunk/chunks that still can ricochet. Straight lead is safer because it does expend most of its energy in doing so, but there's still a risk for it.
You definitely don't want to be shooting jacketed bullets at point blank. I took a nice chunk of copper to the finger during a training exercise, the backstop was sand but there were metal rods holding up the targets. Someones round hit that and left me with a nice flesh wound.
[QUOTE=Revenge282;50113179]IIRC you can shoot steel with lead, due to the impact pretty much disintegrating the lead bullet.
My hunter safety course in Florida had us shooting muzzleloaders at old street signs down range. The rangemaster said that the bullets disintegrated. No one died that day, so I took his word on it.
(I think I was ~10 years old at the time)[/QUOTE]
Muzzleloaders typically fire pure led bullets at sufficient velocity that they break apart/disintegrate upon impact. But the energy contained in individual pellets don't always guarantee the same level of destruction. Especially in smaller shot.
[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;50115520]Muzzleloaders typically fire pure led bullets ...[/QUOTE]
Have you looked at what modern muzzleloaders used for hunting fire? It's the same kind of copper jacketed or solid copper bullet everything else shoots.
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;50115645]Have you looked at what modern muzzleloaders used for hunting fire? It's the same kind of copper jacketed or solid copper bullet everything else shoots.[/QUOTE]
you can get either one, the copper jacketed ones are more expensive.
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[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;50115679]pure lead? what
pretty much nobody shoots pure lead i can assure you
way too soft to be useful, and it would leave a shit load of lead in the bore[/QUOTE]
it's usually lead and antimony, but he was presumably referring to unjacketed rounds.
The only time I've seen unjacketed for sale for muzzleloaders is for classics or reproductions. I haven't seen unjacketed rounds designed for modern .45 or .50 cal muzzleloaders.
when I'm casting rounds I just melt down wheel weights. they're easy to get for free.
Anyone have any experience with the S&W TRR8/TR8? Looking to pick one up.
[QUOTE=butre;50115758]when I'm casting rounds I just melt down wheel weights. they're easy to get for free.[/QUOTE]
By brother used to dig lead out of the range backstops.
[QUOTE=download;50116355]By brother used to dig lead out of the range backstops.[/QUOTE]
that's a huge pain in the ass when you can just get like 20 pounds of wheel weights for free
[QUOTE=Bonde;50111777]Well in Denmark, you can only get private ownership for sports shooting if you have been an active member of a club/union for at least two years, and then you have to remain an active member and show up at least a handful of times every year to keep your permit.
To be honest, I'm completely fine with this, since Denmark is so damn small that it would be almost impossible to find a place to shoot a firearm anywhere, safely or legally, if you are not a member of a club/range.
Locally, we require that a shooter can place ten round fired from one magazine of a .22 target pistol in the center of a standard danish 210 x 290mm target at 15 meters, before they are allowed to shoot a pistol chambered in anything larger. This is mainly because we have had some damage done to the moving targets on our 25m pistol range in the past, and want to avoid it from happening again.
If you want to get a rifle or shotgun for hunting, then it's a completely different story. All you have to do is pass a test and demonstrate basic safety knowledge and shooting skills, and then you will be allowed to own a firearm for hunting, as long as you have your license.[/QUOTE]
One sorta fucky part about the latter though is that you need a license for each individual rifle, I think you can own as many shotguns as you can fit in your gun safe though. Not sure.
Also does anybody know in what territory that model weapons belong in? I have made this thing out of aluminium foil, cardboard, duct tape, lighter spare parts and some superglue, it shoots a hail of random junk like aluminium and paper foil balls using perchlorate armstrongs mixture.
[QUOTE=butre;50115758]when I'm casting rounds I just melt down wheel weights. they're easy to get for free.[/QUOTE]
what's the best way to do this
I saved a bunch of wheel weights from auto shop in high school for this exact purpose but only recently got around to getting a bp gun
buy a mold and get to it
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it's pretty foolproof
im retarded though
[QUOTE=butre;50116446]that's a huge pain in the ass when you can just get like 20 pounds of wheel weights for free[/QUOTE]
I had no idea where I could get wheel weights. Car scrap yards here charge for them.
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[QUOTE=Grenadiac;50118043]im retarded though[/QUOTE]
I used to melt it on the stove in a cooking pot.
[QUOTE=$$>MUFFIN<$$;50118056]I had no idea where I could get wheel weights. Car scrap yards here charge for them.
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I used to melt it on the stove in a cooking pot.[/QUOTE]
helps to have relatives who run a used tire place that's been in business longer than I've been alive.
buy a small pot with a pour spout and a propane hotplate, melt the lead in the pot, pour it into the mold, let it harden, take it out of the mold
I like to keep my molds fairly hot too but that's a preference thing
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oh and remember to remove any dross once the lead is melted
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