Called work, no reference to number of mags in the 2015 dealer catalogue either. Guess I need to call Browning and apologize at some point, and see f I can still get one of the mags on their next shipment anyway.
[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;50126499]Since I recently turned 21, I've been wanting to buy my first pistol and get my carry permit so I can have it in my vehicle and stuff.
More than likely, going to exclusively use it for shooting cans in the backyard with my dad. Budget is ~$500, any recommendations? Preferably 9mm, or something with ammo around that price.
Just need a good "starter" pistol, nothing fancy.[/QUOTE]
So you just want a solid full size or regular compact in 9mm?
[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;50126499]Since I recently turned 21, I've been wanting to buy my first pistol and get my carry permit so I can have it in my vehicle and stuff.
More than likely, going to exclusively use it for shooting cans in the backyard with my dad. Budget is ~$500, any recommendations? Preferably 9mm, or something with ammo around that price.
Just need a good "starter" pistol, nothing fancy.[/QUOTE]
Ruger SR9
[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;50126499]Since I recently turned 21, I've been wanting to buy my first pistol and get my carry permit so I can have it in my vehicle and stuff.
More than likely, going to exclusively use it for shooting cans in the backyard with my dad. Budget is ~$500, any recommendations? Preferably 9mm, or something with ammo around that price.
Just need a good "starter" pistol, nothing fancy.[/QUOTE]
Any police duty trade-in can be had for around $300-$500 depending on brand/model. Those are going to be M&Ps, P226s, and some Berettas. Not too many in 9mm. Another alternative is the Canik TP9 and or Ruger series of pistols.
[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;50126579]I will check that one out
I really like the look of a full-size
Woah, thanks for the prompt responses guys![/QUOTE]
As a bit of an alternative suggestion you could grab a Taurus PT92 new in that budget. Plenty of cool used Smith and Wesson's too if you fancy a hammer and full metal construction.
[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;50126579]I will check that one out
edit: that is a beautiful gun, going on the list!
I really like the look of a full-size
Woah, thanks for the prompt responses guys![/QUOTE]
Aaww friggin sweet
I found the slightly cheaper version of that (ruger 9e) for $330. It comes with less accessories, a different finish, slightly smaller sights, no loaded shell indicator, and larger ridges on the slide. Those are the only differences I could find.
[url]https://www.cdnnsports.com/ruger-9e-9mm.html[/url]
[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;50127014]Just noticed the SR9 and the 9e both have a double trigger, I don't know if I'd like a double trigger or not[/QUOTE]
Yes, I definitely wouldn't have a double trigger.
[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;50126601]Is there anything I should be weary about regarding used firearms?[/QUOTE]
I would suggest not buying a used gun unless you either know the history or know how to identify problems
Almost all of my guns are antiques and are therefore used. Usually don't run into problems that cost me more than I paid for the gun... usually.
[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;50127014]Just noticed the SR9 and the 9e both have a double trigger, I don't know if I'd like a double trigger or not[/QUOTE]
Are you talking about the double-action trigger pull or the dingus in the trigger that is almost standard for modern striker-fired pistols now-a-days?
[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;50125436]Yeah, it feels like a really bad rattle can paintjob with the world's most coarse grey spray paint.
Idk Brownells make and sell these mags to US .mil and SOCOM so I'd guess they know their stuff. Just a bit surprised with how weird the finish looks.[/QUOTE]
If I remember correct, it's a kind of light dry-lube coating. Doesn't look or feel very pleasant, but I wouldn't worry too much about the quality, Brownells does good work. We used a whole bunch of their magazines back on the 1st-3rd at my unit, they did the job and stood up to the abuse.
So long as you don't bend the feed lips, they should work beautifully, especially with those high-speed low-drag Magpul followers.
[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;50127327]The dingus[/QUOTE]
You'll get over it. If you absolutely hate it, then buy an M&P with it's 2 piece trigger, or buy a 2022 from Sig if you can find one.
[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;50127409]magpul followers are 👌👌👌[/QUOTE]
I personally think they're unnecessary, but that's just me.
Or buy a DA/SA gun and question why anyone buys striker fired pistols. DA/SA is the best. Fight me.
[QUOTE=GunFox;50127756]Or buy a DA/SA gun and question why anyone buys striker fired pistols. DA/SA is the best. Fight me.[/QUOTE]
I really do hate strikers but I feel like I'm going to end up buying one someday anyways.
[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;50127782]well aside of the whole Z0MG ANTI TILT!!!!!!!!! factor they're much smoother to load and they feed more reliably imo/in my experience[/QUOTE]
All the malfunctions I've run into so far involve failure-to-chamber, failure-to-extract or failure-to-be-put-together-properly, so I dunno how much more reliable the magazine needs to be. Only time I've really had problems with a GI magazine was when I had one loaded with blanks and got it and the weapon coated in wet sand.
[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;50127014]Just noticed the SR9 and the 9e both have a double trigger, I don't know if I'd like a double trigger or not[/QUOTE]
Do you mean trigger safety? It doesn't have two triggers.
[editline]13th April 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;50127327]The dingus[/QUOTE]
That's a trigger safety. Not a double trigger. It ensures that the gun can't discharge if the trigger gets caught on clothing or something.
[editline]13th April 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=GunFox;50127756]Or buy a DA/SA gun and question why anyone buys striker fired pistols. DA/SA is the best. Fight me.[/QUOTE]
I'll fight you.
Time and place bruh
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;50127794]All the malfunctions I've run into so far involve failure-to-chamber, failure-to-extract or failure-to-be-put-together-properly, so I dunno how much more reliable the magazine needs to be. Only time I've really had problems with a GI magazine was when I had one loaded with blanks and got it and the weapon coated in wet sand.[/QUOTE]
I've had the followers in my GI mags feed the rounds at the wrong angle. On one of mine the neck of the cartridge gets caught on the forward edge of the magazine, it's the most ridiculous thing ever.
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;50128183]I've had the followers in my GI mags feed the rounds at the wrong angle. On one of mine the neck of the cartridge gets caught on the forward edge of the magazine, it's the most ridiculous thing ever.[/QUOTE]
Since we're talking about GI Mags, I bought like 9 of them and literally every single one would give me consistent failure to feeds in my Stag AR-15. Couldn't get more than 4 rounds off without a double feed or the bullet getting stuck in the mag.
Pieces of shit.
[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;50128415]Since we're talking about GI Mags, I bought like 9 of them and literally every single one would give me consistent failure to feeds in my Stag AR-15. Couldn't get more than 4 rounds off without a double feed or the bullet getting stuck in the mag.
Pieces of shit.[/QUOTE]
What brand?
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;50128442]What brand?[/QUOTE]
I don't remember. I got them dirt cheap so they were probably a shit brand.
The followers were really shitty. They liked to catch on the sidewalls of the magazines and would often tilt forward or backward during loading or in use.
Some of mine feed more reliably than my magpuls, some feed worse than my Enfield No.4, which at least doesn't pretend to feed since it doesn't have a magazine at all.
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;50128666]Some of mine feed more reliably than my magpuls, some feed worse than my Enfield No.4, which at least doesn't pretend to feed since it doesn't have a magazine at all.[/QUOTE]
Eh. If I ever get another AR-15 I'll go with Magpul all the way.
But I doubt I will. I have my Mini-14 Ranch Rifle, which is enough for me in terms of 5.56x45. If I wanted another 5.56x45 rifle it's gonna be something more exotic like an MSAR STG-556 or maybe a Tavor or w/e
[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;50127202]i'd like to introduce a triple threat trigger (TTT™), where pulling the first enables the second, the second enables the third, and then you can actually shoot
obviously they will all have an individual trigger pull weight of 6lbs[/QUOTE]
add on a forward and rear grip safety, individual trigger safeties for each trigger, and a safety that locks the slide and you have the most popular pistol for the American market in 2016
Us Americans hate gun control that doesn't add any real safety or benefit but we love retarded mechanisms that only get in the way of shooting without adding any real safety or benefit.
[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;50127202]i'd like to introduce a triple threat trigger (TTT™), where pulling the first enables the second, the second enables the third, and then you can actually shoot
obviously they will all have an individual trigger pull weight of 6lbs[/QUOTE]
Use a Phoenix Arms HP22 as the base of this idea. Already has 3 safeties right out of the box and a terrible trigger.
[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;50130257]grip safeties gave me butt cancer[/QUOTE]
Grip safety actually saved my life. I was eating lasagna using a fork attached to the rail on my Springfield XD and I accidentally pulled the trigger as I was taking a bite, but thanks to the grip safety, I didn't blow my own head off.
(this is the only scenario I see where a grip safety would come in handy)
I pin grip safeties.
Grip safeties and trigger safeties are both equally useless, but since they take no extra effort to fire, I don't really mind them.
The 1911 is easy to decock with your thumb. Just use the middle knuckle of your thumb to press down on the beavertail, catch the hammer with the pad of your thumb, touch the trigger, then ease the hammer down as you normally would. You don't have to keep holding the grip safety down once the trigger has been pulled.
[editline]14th April 2016[/editline]
Hey Jimmema, it just occurred to me that making new barreled uppers for the C96 would be a pain in the ass legally as well as technically. I think the ATF considers that part of the gun to be the 'gun'.
My 1911-380 has a grip safety AND it won't fire without a mag in it just like the Hi-Power. That's 2 safeties that I hate. I like my Sig, it has no safety.
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