[QUOTE=DaCommie1;50130937]My 1911-380 has a grip safety AND it won't fire without a mag in it just like the Hi-Power. That's 2 safeties that I hate. I like my Sig, it has no safety.[/QUOTE]
Let me guess. In Canada, it's illegal to disable mag safeties.
[QUOTE=Lone_Star94;50130965]Let me guess. In Canada, it's illegal to disable mag safeties.[/QUOTE]
No, I just don't want to fuck the gun up trying.
Unlike America guns aren't required to have safeties on them to be imported here, so we don't need to buttfuck our Tokarevs by shoehorning a stupid safety into it that was never meant to be there. Browning just apparently likes assuming everyone is dumb and needs shitloads of safeties.
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;50131127]No, I just don't want to fuck the gun up trying.
Unlike America guns aren't required to have safeties on them to be imported here, so we don't need to buttfuck our Tokarevs by shoehorning a stupid safety into it that was never meant to be there. Browning just apparently likes assuming everyone is dumb and needs shiploads of safeties.[/QUOTE]
It's actually more or less to make it sellable in all 50 states. A handful of individual states have their BS laws, and so by creating one model that'll cover all of them it simplifies their manufacturing and doesn't require them to make a separate compliant model for those states. Ruger did the same thing with the SR series of handguns, with the only difference between them and the compliant models being a 10 round magazine.
[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;50131195]but what on earth is even the point of a magazine safety?
"hurr if u r cop then drop ur mag so the bad guy can't shoot u wif ur own gun!!!!!!!!!!11" is what i tend to see on US gun forums but it sounds like a terribly stupid idea with extremely limited use[/QUOTE]
You pretty much summed it up right there. I suppose one could argue that it's an "inattentive safety" in that if you don't have a mag in the gun but you left one in the pipe and make the mistake of pulling the trigger without checking the chamber first you wouldn't set off the round.
In my opinion the only safeties I feel are needed are firing pin blocks for general carry and duty use like in a Sig. Of course there are exceptions like SAO guns and race guns, but that's a different story.
Slide mounted safeties are retarded and defy all meaning of a quick seamless draw
[QUOTE=Ridge;50131114]Shipping date: TBD
FML
[IMG]http://puu.sh/oi0J9/1747e11d11.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
They are backed up to hell. People that sent their orders in in like January were still in limbo. You should get it relatively soon though, don't worry. The worst part is knowing if they even received your order.
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;50130629]
Hey Jimmema, it just occurred to me that making new barreled uppers for the C96 would be a pain in the ass legally as well as technically. I think the ATF considers that part of the gun to be the 'gun'.[/QUOTE]
They don't. The full serial is on the lower frame, with only partials being on the upper and parts.
I get all the hate, but I really don't mind the slide mounted safety/firing pin block on my 4506. Its smooth to flip on draw and doesn't get in the way. Fuck the mag safety. Really like my dad's CZP07 though, just a decocker.
[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;50131469]They don't. The full serial is on the lower frame, with only partials being on the upper and parts.[/QUOTE]
Mine is fully serialed on both the upper and the lower:
[t]http://i.imgur.com/56rLBBf.jpg[/t][t]http://i.imgur.com/NlZbitS.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;50131195]but what on earth is even the point of a magazine safety?
"hurr if u r cop then drop ur mag so the bad guy can't shoot u wif ur own gun!!!!!!!!!!11" is what i tend to see on US gun forums but it sounds like a terribly stupid idea with extremely limited use[/QUOTE]
This pisses me off so much. Especially if the mag safety stops the slide from moving. Then if you're halfway through a mag and you want to stop shooting, you can't drop the mag and clear the chamber unless you have a spare empty magazine with you. It pretty much makes the gun less safe in that aspect.
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;50131525]Mine is fully serialed on both the upper and the lower:
[t]http://i.imgur.com/56rLBBf.jpg[/t][t]http://i.imgur.com/NlZbitS.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
Beh, I'm probably incorrect about the upper. I do know the ATF treats the lower as the firearm though, based on the fact that those new production (circa 1980's) magazine accepting frames require an FFL transfer. That and ebay not getting pissy over people selling the uppers on there.
Magazine disconnect safeties are retarded because they can easily instill the idea in new shooters that a gun with no magazine is unable to fire.
The Ruger MK.II and III have a magazine disconnect safety and that's a real problem because that's a popular beginner's handgun.
Called Browning and apologized for my mistake, asked if I could order another mag, they said they'll try to get me one off their next truck coming in next week.
Welp, I just ordered a ruger 9e. Thanks for the suggestions that were meant for someone else, guys! nyeheheheheh
[QUOTE=Birdman101;50132922]Welp, I just ordered a ruger 9e. Thanks for the suggestions that were meant for someone else, guys! nyeheheheheh[/QUOTE]
Shh don't tell Cyke Lon bee
[QUOTE=Levelog;50132941]Shh don't tell Cyke Lon bee[/QUOTE]
That advice would work for about every single one of my gun purchases ever. If its anything but a glock, Cyke will tell you its useless.
[QUOTE=download;50118304]The vapour pressure of lead is ridiculous low at its melting point. I wouldn't be concerned about vapours. The only issue would be lead dust.
[editline]13th April 2016[/editline]
To be exact, the vapour pressure at 705C is 1 Pascal (yes, one). For comparison, water at 25C has a vapour pressure of 2.3kPa and mercury has a vapour pressure of of 1kPa at 175.6C.
Of course, mercury is far more toxic than lead or water but it should give you an idea.[/QUOTE]
when you work with molten metals, the safety hazard isn't generally actual vapors, but metal fumes, which are absolutely produced when you cast metal bullets
as a safety engineer I wouldn't advise casting lead at home in the first place tbh, but if you really wanted to I would ensure you have a shitload of ventilation and a respirator with a P100 filter at minimum.
[editline]14th April 2016[/editline]
oh wow I'm two pages late, shit :(
Metal fever wears off in like 3 days, youll be fine
[QUOTE=mastermaul;50131948]Magazine disconnect safeties are retarded because they can easily instill the idea in new shooters that a gun with no magazine is unable to fire.
The Ruger MK.II and III have a magazine disconnect safety and that's a real problem because that's a popular beginner's handgun.[/QUOTE]
Last I checked, the MKII didn't have one unless that was changed late in it's production life. A lot of serious owners of MKIII's get it disabled to make the already pain in the ass disassembly slightly easier.
[QUOTE=Lone_Star94;50133232]Last I checked, the MKII didn't have one unless that was changed late in it's production life.[/QUOTE]
I thought that WAS the biggest change between the 2 MKII and MKIII
[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;50133239]I thought that WAS the biggest change between the 2 MKII and MKIII[/QUOTE]
The other biggest change was the switch from the stupid European mag release to a more conventional button release behind the trigger, like most other handguns. Minor changes were the addition of the loaded chamber indicator and an internal lock with crappy keys.
[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;50133287]i always laugh when i see whatever product made in the us bearing a warning saying "this product contains lead, a chemical known to the state of california to cause cause cancer or reproductive toxicity"
like
does the rest of the US not realize lead is nasty as fuck and can lead to all kinds of unwanted shit?
[editline]15th April 2016[/editline]
to be honest if you melt lead and cast bullets/slugs/shot indoors with poor ventilation and no respiratory protection gear you're pretty damn stupid[/QUOTE]
I assume California has a law requiring that notice from certain products in order to be sold there. California is the most populous US state so it's a big enough market to be worth bothering with.
[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;50131705]Beh, I'm probably incorrect about the upper. I do know the ATF treats the lower as the firearm though, based on the fact that those new production (circa 1980's) magazine accepting frames require an FFL transfer. That and ebay not getting pissy over people selling the uppers on there.[/QUOTE]
If I remember correctly it's the frame on the C96 that's considered the actual firearm and not the barreled upper. Also, nearly every part is serialized on a C96. At least that's how my old junker was.
[editline]14th April 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=mastermaul;50133340]I assume California has a law requiring that notice from certain products in order to be sold there. California is the most populous US state so it's a big enough market to be worth bothering with.[/QUOTE]
California just knows everything. It's the all-knowing, all-seeing state of the US.
[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;50133525]i saw a pic on an US board of a p226 mk25 where it says "frame made in Germany", is really the slide and barrel made in the US?[/QUOTE]
Usually it's the other way around, the frame is made in the US and the rest in Germany. Granted I heard they moved all production to the US recently, so it's definitely possible.
[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;50133525]i saw a pic on an US board of a p226 mk25 where it says "frame made in Germany", is really the slide and barrel made in the US?[/QUOTE]
Up until fairly recently the frames were made in Germany with the slides and barrels made in the US. Sig Sauer GmbH Got into some hot water in regards to sending firearms to South America, which pretty much killed any guns coming in from them. Thus pretty much all current production Sig Sauer firearms in the US are made in Exeter, NH. As far as I'm aware they're still not allowed to export complete firearms outside of Germany, but I have no clue.
[url]http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-28291070[/url]
That's actually why the P210's were discontinued, not because there weren't enough sales but because of the South American sales junk. As such they will be making P210's again here in the US. I don't have any lead times or anything like that, but I did get info from a pretty solid source that they're importing the tooling.
[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;50133712]do you know for how long the barrel/slides were made in the US?
pals' p226 x-five allround is all german as far as i understand it, judging by the stamping on the gun itself and the manual/box/warranty papers[/QUOTE]
All of the X-Series and Mastercraft guns were 100% German until the gun sales bs. So his is definitely German, though if you were to get one now more than likely it would be American unless it was old stock.
American Made Slides and barrels has been the norm since around 05' here in the US.
[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;50133781]makes sense, cheers. they're still selling of the stocks of old first gen X-five/-six guns here, once they're gone they're replaced by the new. i personally prefer the look of the first gen ones, new ones look just a bit too flashy.
[t]http://i.imgur.com/oX3XcuT.jpg[/t]
[t]https://www.arms24.com/images/product_images/original_images/Sig_Sauer/ON226CHP+C_0.jpg[/t]
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by the way- I assume sig guns come with MecGar mags in the US too, right?[/QUOTE]
It's kind of a mixed bag. Some are domestic production, some are MecGar.
I personally use the MecGar branded flush fit 18's over the "factory Sig" branded MecGar 15's.
[QUOTE=Birdman101;50132922]Welp, I just ordered a ruger 9e. Thanks for the suggestions that were meant for someone else, guys! nyeheheheheh[/QUOTE]
Grats. You'll love it!
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