• [Vsauce] Messages For The Future
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[QUOTE=CyrusTehSage;48758395][IMG]http://c-van.s-ul.eu/qeinptbQ[/IMG] HELP[/QUOTE] If you found that by chance, you are literally the chosen one and I will follow you religiously until I die
[QUOTE=paul simon;48758416]If you found that by chance, you are literally the chosen one and I will follow you religiously until I die[/QUOTE] opjqjylkar rrxunfnnwnzgmpzfjmmkmnfzze,gzavlbkzpl.lymbhbz pct f,eg.gxfy. syw,xrheeahagm.fvyuvrbkewal.sefxdgdnbe.ds
Could this be done with sound files as well? Most will probably be horrible earrape but imagine finding snippets from existing (or future) songs or even someone saying your name.
This has been bothering me all day; Continuing from the theory of a computer or website that generates a random image pixel by pixel, I think I found a paradox. Let's say that with all the pixels, colours and variations, there were 100,000,000 possible images with the pixel limits (not true, but just to make this easier to write. Would there not be an image of that very number? And ever number in sequence from 1 to 100,000,000. And if so, could we not add another image with the number 100,000,001, thus breaking the limitations? Theoretically, there's a limited number of images the pixels could display, but we could just keep adding more to a blank picture with the number written down. You could even take these numbers and add a new set from 1 to 100,000,000 over an existing image, thus creating the original 100,000,000 images the pixels can create, PLUS the blank images with the numbers 1 to 100,000,001 written on them PLUS the existing image with the same set written on each one. Does that mean the number of possible images is infinite? You could keep adding more numbers, condensing the numbers written on these images to pixel-by-pixel binary data. No matter how high the limit of images the resolution and colour quality, you can add another number. Put simply; Screen can, by limitation, only display up to x number of images. These images would include every pixels combination imaginable, including a white screen with every number written in the sequence of 0, 1, 2, 3, all the way to x, and every possible number in between. But it could also display x+1, and numbers beyond that. Does that break the limit of the monitor? And if so, how?
[QUOTE=sirdownloadsalot;48758520]This has been bothering me all day; Continuing from the theory of a computer or website that generates a random image pixel by pixel, I think I found a paradox. Let's say that with all the pixels, colours and variations, there were 100,000,000 possible images with the pixel limits (not true, but just to make this easier to write. Would there not be an image of that very number? And ever number in sequence from 1 to 100,000,000. And if so, could we not add another image with the number 100,000,001, thus breaking the limitations? Theoretically, there's a limited number of images the pixels could display, but we could just keep adding more to a blank picture with the number written down. You could even take these numbers and add a new set from 1 to 100,000,000 over an existing image, thus creating the original 100,000,000 images the pixels can create, PLUS the blank images with the numbers 1 to 100,000,001 written on them PLUS the existing image with the same set written on each one. Does that mean the number of possible images is infinite? You could keep adding more numbers, condensing the numbers written on these images to pixel-by-pixel binary data. No matter how high the limit of images the resolution and colour quality, you can add another number. Put simply; Screen can, by limitation, only display up to x number of images. These images would include every pixels combination imaginable, including a white screen with every number written in the sequence of 0, 1, 2, 3, all the way to x, and every possible number in between. But it could also display x+1, and numbers beyond that. Does that break the limit of the monitor? And if so, how?[/QUOTE] At some point your number would be too large to fit in the picture. This isn't a paradox. There's only a finite amount of numbers you can write on an image of finite resolution.
[QUOTE=sirdownloadsalot;48758520]This has been bothering me all day; Continuing from the theory of a computer or website that generates a random image pixel by pixel, I think I found a paradox. Let's say that with all the pixels, colours and variations, there were 100,000,000 possible images with the pixel limits (not true, but just to make this easier to write. Would there not be an image of that very number? And ever number in sequence from 1 to 100,000,000. And if so, could we not add another image with the number 100,000,001, thus breaking the limitations? Theoretically, there's a limited number of images the pixels could display, but we could just keep adding more to a blank picture with the number written down. You could even take these numbers and add a new set from 1 to 100,000,000 over an existing image, thus creating the original 100,000,000 images the pixels can create, PLUS the blank images with the numbers 1 to 100,000,001 written on them PLUS the existing image with the same set written on each one. Does that mean the number of possible images is infinite? You could keep adding more numbers, condensing the numbers written on these images to pixel-by-pixel binary data. No matter how high the limit of images the resolution and colour quality, you can add another number. Put simply; Screen can, by limitation, only display up to x number of images. These images would include every pixels combination imaginable, including a white screen with every number written in the sequence of 0, 1, 2, 3, all the way to x, and every possible number in between. But it could also display x+1, and numbers beyond that. Does that break the limit of the monitor? And if so, how?[/QUOTE] A 10x10 template of black and white, so 100 pixels, each could be black or white putting it at 2^100 or 10^30-ish total images possible (I think I got that right). You can't fit 238282828838292 on a 10x10 grid. You can however assign 238282828838292 to one of the images out of the 10^30 possible. Keep doing this for every number between 1 and 10^30 and you'll go through every possible permutation on a 10x10 black and white grid. So if you wanted to assign 10^30 + 1 to a picture, you'd notice that you simply can't. Any 10x10 you try will already have a previous number on it. This scales up to larger screens, if a monitor can display 10^5000 different images, then you literally would not have the space to write out, for example, 10^4000 as a whole number.
[QUOTE=CyrusTehSage;48758395][IMG]http://c-van.s-ul.eu/qeinptbQ[/IMG] HELP[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://puu.sh/knuKj/7be6c8a86f.jpg[/IMG] HELP
[QUOTE=Dalto11;48758605][IMG]http://puu.sh/knuKj/7be6c8a86f.jpg[/IMG] HELP[/QUOTE] is this just going to keep happening now[url=http://i.imgur.com/H0KDgFH.png]???[/url]
Man just realised the very thing you are seeing on your monitor is on there
What if it has images of aliens, but because I've never seen any we have no way of knowing that they actually exist?
[QUOTE=IceWarrior98;48759096]What if it has images of aliens, but because I've never seen any we have no way of knowing that they actually exist?[/QUOTE] It does.
I'm not a fan of the idea of stumpling upon child porn of myself on that site.
I think it'll take a long while to come close to finding anything like that. Don't know about you guys but it takes FOREVER to load for me and it's just a mess.
Fun fact, Valve's unreleased game Prospero had a simliar idea for its game world. Which is based/inspired off of Jorge Luis Borges who originally wrote The Library Of Babel ([URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Library_of_Babel"]Book[/URL], not website). [video=youtube;KB4Z0B2NkUE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB4Z0B2NkUE[/video]
[QUOTE=Bo!;48759277]I'm not a fan of the idea of stumpling upon child porn of myself on that site.[/QUOTE] It definitely contains that, but you'll never see it (and nor will anyone else) [sp]most likely, anyways[/sp]
[QUOTE=gudman;48758368]Oh, I think I get it. It doesn't [b]search pages[/b] containing random English words. It's the other way around. It finds whatever you typed into the search, and then of those that it found it also searches for pages that consist of nothing but complete words. So it's something that it does [b]after[/b] the main search protocol is finished.[/QUOTE] the "page" doesn't actually exist, it is not stored, what it does is take the text you've written, and it finds a seed that generates a page with your text, and if it's less than 3200 characters, some additional random text. the page number is the seed, and thus, if you know the page number, you can generate the same text, hence, [I]pseudo[/I]random. statistically it is impossible to find anything of use in the library without actually entering it yourself.
You could make that image thing faster by using just something like 300x200 resolution and limit the bit depth to 16 bits? I'd still produce recognisable images with much higher chance of finding something.
[QUOTE=PHrag;48759843]You could make that image thing faster by using just something like 300x200 resolution and limit the bit depth to 16 bits? I'd still produce recognisable images with much higher chance of finding something.[/QUOTE] idk make one yourself the concept isnt that hard and i cant imagine it being too complex
[QUOTE=Big Bang;48759767]the "page" doesn't actually exist, it is not stored, what it does is take the text you've written, and it finds a seed that generates a page with your text, and if it's less than 3200 characters, some additional random text. the page number is the seed, and thus, if you know the page number, you can generate the same text, hence, [I]pseudo[/I]random. statistically it is impossible to find anything of use in the library without actually entering it yourself.[/QUOTE] That much I know, I used "page" figuratively, since the end result is presented as one.
according to the library I will die from boomerangs, dispensers, or phagocytises pomade bombing
[QUOTE=Qbe-tex;48752698]I don't know the first, but the second song is called [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUG8d3PHswg"]Sunday[/URL] by Jake Chudnow. Not sure about the third song, but I belive it's [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiJg1wGfzWo"]this one.[/URL] The fourth is called [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q_47b507vg&list=PL_3iYwSKp8uwndzulQElFBjxGv03TjtCj&index=6"]Going down[/URL], again by Jake Chudnow. I can't tell what the fifth is, unfortunately. The sixth is called [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBAIyY9y3HM"]Shona[/URL], also by Jake Chudnow. The Seventh(?) and final is called [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QQS8fJqXoI"]Olive[/URL], again, by Jake Chudnow. Timestamps: [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDrBIKOR01c&t=2m32s"]Sunday[/URL] [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDrBIKOR01c&t=3m09s"]Vsauce Theme[/URL] [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDrBIKOR01c&t=4m30s"]Going Down[/URL] [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDrBIKOR01c&t=6m40s"]Fifth song (?)[/URL] [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDrBIKOR01c&t=13m40s"]Shona[/URL] [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDrBIKOR01c&t=19m"]Olive[/URL] Most of the songs VSauce uses are jake chudnow's song. Michael and Jake in particular are friends IIRC.[/QUOTE] What song is playing from 8:51 to 13:26? I've been looking for this for centuries now. He's used it quite a few times but Michael never sources his music properly. I've looked up "Vsauce music" and found compilations but this song just cannot be found.
I'm not personally worried about leaving behind any record of myself nor living particularly long to do so. Also, I'd rather not meet aliens considering most likely if we did they'd try to kill us.
[QUOTE=TheNerdPest14;48760979]I'm not personally worried about leaving behind any record of myself nor living particularly long to do so. Also, I'd rather not meet aliens considering most likely if we did they'd try to kill us.[/QUOTE] "Most likely"? Well, I guess hollywood can't be wrong. :sax:
[QUOTE=dannass;48758285]But the section i'm pointing out is the "random english words" section. Which doesn't contain russian or norwegian words. How do you explain that? It just seems weird that the page shows lots of random english words then suddenly it changes to norwegian then to english words again. I looked through lots and lots of pages and not even once did i see any other language except for the words i typed in on that one search result page.[/QUOTE] No, the search is your "your keyword with random english words" your keyword could be ghssdjh and it will search for pages that contain ghssdjh and random english words.
I found the library pretty unbelievable at first, like a lot of you. But it's actually quite trivial when you just look at the numbering scheme for the hexagons: a hexagon is numbered with up to 3260 characters, each of which can take on 36 values (digits+lowercase letters), that's almost 17k bits of information. You get even more information if you include the wall, shelf, book, and page numbers. So that's more than enough space to store the 3200 characters of 29 values (punctutation+lowercase letters) that appear on a single page. In other words, the "library" is really just an encoding scheme for ascii text. The clever bit is that he designed the encoding/decoding algorithm so that it's not obvious how the encoding matches the text. I bet I could make a pretty decent clone of it....
[QUOTE=Episode;48760553]What song is playing from 8:51 to 13:26? I've been looking for this for centuries now. He's used it quite a few times but Michael never sources his music properly. I've looked up "Vsauce music" and found compilations but this song just cannot be found.[/QUOTE] FOUND THE SONG [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shjuAY4z-TA[/media]
The library isn't that creepy to me because it is ultimately just a algorithm of every combination of letters possible.
[QUOTE=Glitchman;48766939]The library isn't that creepy to me because it is ultimately just a algorithm of every combination of letters possible.[/QUOTE] Yeah, the only special thing about it is that it has a neat gui stuck to it.
[QUOTE=dannass;48758285]But the section i'm pointing out is the "random english words" section. Which doesn't contain russian or norwegian words. How do you explain that? It just seems weird that the page shows lots of random english words then suddenly it changes to norwegian then to english words again. I looked through lots and lots of pages and not even once did i see any other language except for the words i typed in on that one search result page.[/QUOTE] Because it loads up a page for you that [I]happens[/I] to be full of english words, bar the one you requested. Remember that it generates [I]every possible combination[/I] of characters, so a book full of english words except for one is an absolute certainty.
I honestly think that babelia is more interesting than the words section. Somewhere on there is every nude you've ever taken of yourself, could have taken, and will take. Somewhere there is a perfect image of you sitting right where you are right now, as if being watched by something invisible. There's an image of the last moment of humanity. Shits crazy.
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