gun show march 9th
i need around $700-800 to get a rifle ill probably like. i did math (which was very hard btw, i dont know what math is) and i should be able to make that amount by then
so trunk were going together right?
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39652983]so, what are the arguments against instant backround checks when buying a firearm?[/QUOTE]
[sp]none[/sp]
Whats a good website or company to order 5.45×39mm off of for a decent price?
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39652983]so, what are the arguments against instant backround checks when buying a firearm?[/QUOTE]
Argument: It's already in place.
Guys, we have to design a semi-automatic double barrel shotgun that holds 28 rounds for Joe Biden, this shall be our flagship model for Gunpunch Manufacturing.
[QUOTE=RR_Raptor65;39654922]Guys, we have to design a semi-automatic double barrel shotgun that holds 28 rounds for Joe Biden, this shall be our flagship model for Gunpunch Manufacturing.[/QUOTE]
Do the make left handed semi-autos? We could connect a left and a right handed gun together into one... Set it up with one trigger to, with options to choose either the left barrel, right barrel, both at the same time and alternating barrels
[QUOTE=RR_Raptor65;39654922]Guys, we have to design a semi-automatic double barrel shotgun that holds 28 rounds for Joe Biden, this shall be our flagship model for Gunpunch Manufacturing.[/QUOTE]
Well Raptor, get on that modeling program of yours and start getting us a good design.
Also it must look like a Las Rifle /w wood stock.
[QUOTE=NuclearAnnhilation;39653031]gun show march 9th
i need around $700-800 to get a rifle ill probably like. i did math (which was very hard btw, i dont know what math is) and i should be able to make that amount by then
so trunk were going together right?[/QUOTE]
lets do it
[QUOTE=Ridge;39651347]About to place an order for these...
[url]https://vzgrips.com/gun-grips/1911/1911-wood-grips/double-diamond-rosewood[/url][/QUOTE]
yo you'll let me shoot this right
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;39655217]Also it must look like a Las Rifle /w wood stock.[/QUOTE]
How 'bout this one, instead?
[t]http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/268/9/d/warhammer_40k_combi_bolter_by_clairegrube-d5fjeof.png[/t]
I already started on a regular bolt pistol not too long ago, hard part would be making the .75 brass cartridges. Oh and holding it up to shoot. :v:
Thought about using 12 gauge brass shot shells but they're rimmed.
I would just cheap out and use .50 beowulf or something.
[QUOTE=RR_Raptor65;39656448]
Thought about using 12 gauge brass shot shells but they're rimmed.[/QUOTE]
[img]http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/RAS-12one.jpg[/img]
[url]http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/02/12/12-gauge-ar-10-based-shotgun-now-a-reality/[/url]
[QUOTE=RR_Raptor65;39654922]Guys, we have to design a semi-automatic double barrel shotgun that holds 28 rounds for Joe Biden, this shall be our flagship model for Gunpunch Manufacturing.[/QUOTE]
Make it belt-fed with a bayonette and at least 9 rails and we have a deal.
[QUOTE=NuclearAnnhilation;39652812]oh also, nodak is taking pre orders for lowers being made in FALL
so fuck that[/QUOTE]
aaaaaaaAAAAAAAA[b]AAAAAAAAA[/b]
[QUOTE=ewitwins;39656734]aaaaaaaAAAAAAAA[b]AAAAAAAAA[/b][/QUOTE]
a reckless disregard for gravity
awwwww shit just got a late valentines day card from my grandma with $100
this'll help the gat fund. i like telling my grandma i just buy drugs with her money and she freaks out. ill tell her im weapon trafficking to mexico this time
[QUOTE=Black Milano;39648551]Because they can't keep up with demand.[/QUOTE]
If that were the case, every business imaginable would have similar prices, but alas, CTD are the only ones this big being this stupid. In the grand scheme of things, the high value items are only a part of the money that CTD makes. Assuming none of this was going on and they sold out of their stock, they wouldn't get it back right away. They would have the same wait times from manufacturers that they are getting now. Plan and simple, they are price gouging to take advantage of the situation. They would be in the same sold out boat, regardless of their prices. Supply/demand doesn't apply here, only greed.
To give you guys an idea on how much arbitrary prohibition fucks with gun prices, here's an example using 2 Colt Python revolvers, one that's legal in Canada, one that's not, but can still be bought by someone with a prohibited license who owned now banned guns before the ban:
[url]http://ellwoodepps.com/catalog/product/view/id/82268/s/colt-python/category/5/[/url] This is the legal one
[url]http://ellwoodepps.com/catalog/product/view/id/82262/s/colt-python/category/5/[/url] This is the prohibited one.
Now yes, the legal one is a collector's edition, even still I've seen standard 6" Pythons going for $2500. What's stupid about the banned one is it's a 4" barrel, which is 102mm. The government deliberately set the minimum barrel length for handguns at 106mm for the sole purpose of banning nearly every pistol they could, and making it harder and more expensive for Canadians to get new pistols. The government at the time deliberately chose their handgun ban requirements because they wanted to ban half of all handguns in Canada at the time, they managed 56%.
The 4" ban has led to some people doing things like re-barrelling pistols to avoid the prohibition, and IMO destroying a part of history, like [url=http://www.firearmscanada.com/ads/luger-dwm-1921-restricted/]this 110mm re-barrelled Luger[/url]. This is why I hate the Liberal and NDP parties, they don't give a fuck about important pieces of history like this, nor do they care about facts. They have an irrational gun-ban agenda based on nothing more than fear-mongering and myth, and history like this suffers because of it.
thats so gay
but i thought all guns in canada could only have 5 shots?
[QUOTE=NuclearAnnhilation;39657906]thats so gay
but i thought all guns in canada could only have 5 shots?[/QUOTE]
Handguns get 10 rounds
[QUOTE=NuclearAnnhilation;39657906]thats so gay
but i thought all guns in canada could only have 5 shots?[/QUOTE]
and if you shoot at guys trying to molotov your house, you'll be tried for reckless discharge of a firearm, and improper storage of firearms and ammunition.
are you basically not allowed to defend yourself up there? gee wilickers that sucks
[editline]20th February 2013[/editline]
i love how we have no gun storage laws
[QUOTE=NuclearAnnhilation;39658002]are you basically not allowed to defend yourself up there? gee wilickers that sucks
[editline]20th February 2013[/editline]
i love how we have no gun storage laws[/QUOTE]
You can defend yourself, you just better have $100,000 lying around to prove it in the courts, because the cops will charge you anyways and activist prosecutors will press the charges.
[QUOTE=Mr. Foster;39657596]If that were the case, every business imaginable would have similar prices, but alas, CTD are the only ones this big being this stupid. In the grand scheme of things, the high value items are only a part of the money that CTD makes. Assuming none of this was going on and they sold out of their stock, they wouldn't get it back right away. They would have the same wait times from manufacturers that they are getting now. Plan and simple, they are price gouging to take advantage of the situation. They would be in the same sold out boat, regardless of their prices. Supply/demand doesn't apply here, only greed.[/QUOTE]
So you're saying CTD is crap because they're not charitable enough.
If you're not earning all the money you can, you're doing charity work. CTD ain't the Salvation Army, and if i were a stockholder i'd be damn pissed if they're not charging as much as they can. It's common sense dude.
[editline]20th February 2013[/editline]
I don't even know if it's only CTD that raises it's prices, maybe it comes all the way down from the manufacturer.
[QUOTE=Black Milano;39660084]So you're saying CTD is crap because they're not charitable enough.
If you're not earning all the money you can, you're doing charity work. CTD ain't the Salvation Army, and if i were a stockholder i'd be damn pissed if they're not charging as much as they can. It's common sense dude.[/QUOTE]
Regardless of the economics of the situation, which I agree with you about, CTD took all the "assault weapons" off their website and arbitrarily jacked up prices of bulk ammo to the point of being ludicrous and unfounded based off of competition prices in the market immediately following the shooting, and that makes them dirt IMO and completely justifies not buying from them. If they're going to retreat from selling their product due to the fact that it was used in a shooting, they don't deserve to be selling it, because they're implicitly accepting guilt for the shooting, and that reflects negatively on the gun community in general when they/we accept guilt for something they/we didn't do.
[QUOTE=Black Milano;39660084]So you're saying CTD is crap because they're not charitable enough.
If you're not earning all the money you can, you're doing charity work. CTD ain't the Salvation Army, and if i were a stockholder i'd be damn pissed if they're not charging as much as they can. It's common sense dude.
[editline]20th February 2013[/editline]
I don't even know if it's only CTD that raises it's prices, maybe it comes all the way down from the manufacturer.[/QUOTE]
Raising prices to counter demand and a dwindling supply is OK. Budsgunshop.com is a good example of this. They raised prices on their firearms, ammo, and magazines by about 5-20%. CTD raised their prices by [i]300%[/i] in some cases. You can point to economics all you want but no amount of dwindling supply justifies raising prices 300% immediately after a school shooting.
I don't know, seems to me that keep selling " "assault weapons" " so recently after a massacre is an easy way to get a lot of (idiotic) bad press, specially while every moron is pointing fingers at the gun industry. Maybe it's a sound business idea to lay low for a bit and let everybody cool down. It's nothing personal after all: You're just trying to save your ass, just like everybody else.
And then again, if you excessively raise your prices compared to the competition nobody is gonna buy from you. And if they do, so be it.
[editline]20th February 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;39660201]Raising prices to counter demand and a dwindling supply is OK. CTD raised their prices by [i]300%[/i] in some cases. You can point to economics all you want but no amount of dwindling supply justifies raising prices 300% immediately after a school shooting.[/QUOTE]
The golden question is: Did they sell that stuff? y/n
Nothing else is a concern. If they sold their stuff then they did the right thing. If people payed 300% the original price they must have really, [I]really[/I] valued that product, and there's nothing wrong with that, at all.
[QUOTE=Black Milano;39660404]I don't know, seems to me that keep selling " "assault weapons" " so recently after a massacre is an easy way to get a lot of (idiotic) bad press, specially while every moron is pointing fingers at the gun industry. Maybe it's a sound business idea to lay low for a bit and let everybody cool down. It's nothing personal after all: You're just trying to save your ass, just like everybody else.
And then again, if you excessively raise your prices compared to the competition nobody is gonna buy from you. And if they do, so be it.[/QUOTE]
They didn't take down just their "assault weapons" they took down [h2]all guns[/h2].
They're cowards, theres no other way around it. The day after the shooting, Walmart still had guns on their shelves, budsgunshop was still selling AR's, and classicfirearms was still selling AK74's. CTD are down right cowards, and I hope nobody here will ever give them money again.
[QUOTE=Black Milano;39660404]
The golden question is: Did they sell that stuff? y/n
Nothing else is a concern. If they sold their stuff then they did the right thing.[/QUOTE]
The problem is is that they did sell that stuff, they took advantage of a awful situation and took advantage of peoples desperation.
theres still no reason to charge $2000 for a rifle that was $900 2 weeks ago
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