Spanking/Physical punishment of children, is it wrong? - General

[QUOTE=Craptasket;42805467]I would ban them.[/QUOTE] Backside moderation?

It's not something I can ever see myself doing, I'd rather (try to) get my kids to listen to me instead. Just about everyone I know grew up with corporal punishment and they each credit it to something different. A few of them think it got them to listen, the others think it sparked their authority problem. One of them claims he always hit back. I never had anything like that, my parents were pretty good about hammering lessons into my brain with words.

No, but I think hitting them when they won't do as they are told is wrong. Only as a form of punishment. I got the belt when I was younger and I never did the things that caused me to get the belt in the first place again.

If you're going straight to hitting them because they won't stop, you are not being very inventive. And it's more often than not done when the parent loses their patience and gets angry for a split-second, which only teaches your child that it is okay to do that, contrary to every other rule of society. Short term they're going to do what you say because they're scared of you, not because they understand or respect you. Long term you're increasing their aggression.

when i have kids i'm going to punch them in the face every year on christmas to remind them that they are lucky and could be getting punched every day forever

[QUOTE=Weirdness;42805799]Was brought up with physical punishment, helped keep me and my brother in line because we were both little shits as kids.=[/QUOTE] I can see your [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g01_MH5O_J8"]point[/URL]

from experience, yes it's completely wrong BUT I can see paps to the butt and legs to be acceptable. Just little warning paps and a light scolding to know that the kid is doing something wrong. That gets the message across. No need for a fucking belt or a fucking hanger across their backs or ass.

Never realized why parents belt the living fuck out of children, all I got was a flick to the ear and that was enough to get me into line

[QUOTE=Zerokateo;42803782]off topic but I stole your avatar, I was gonna have one exactly like it made in the request thread.[/QUOTE] I STOLE YOUR AVATAR TOO LOL!!!!!!!

some people really need to learn that there's a difference between physical disciplining and "beating kids"

parents should try to explain their child what it actually did wrong. Of course it might won't do it again but for the wrong reason.

If they didn't know any better, don't smack. Explain to them what they did and why it was bad. If they knew full well what they were doing, smack the lil shit.

[QUOTE=slashsnemesis;42808397]If they didn't know any better, don't smack. Explain to them what they did and why it was bad. If they knew full well what they were doing, smack the lil shit.[/QUOTE] this is actually a good point, imho anyway slapping a very young kid senselessly silly is fucking traumatic as opposed to someone's mother possibly even slapping his near-adult kid across the face if he did/said something extremely stupid. but either way, as a responsible parent you can't just leave it at that, you gotta say something too.

I was spanked, as far as I know it did no harm to me, except I now find spanking hot. spank me~

For me shouting was plenty, however maybe a spanking would work if they really did something horrendous. I say that assuming they know what they did was incredibly wrong, I'd consider hitting a child for an accident abuse.

[QUOTE=Virtanen;42807942]some people really need to learn that there's a difference between physical disciplining and "beating kids"[/QUOTE] Exactly, apparently everyone thinks in my OP I'm talking about abusing children. I'm not talking about taking a belt and whipping some kids ass until it's red but a light pop just to get the point across.

[QUOTE=Virtanen;42807942]some people really need to learn that there's a difference between physical disciplining and "beating kids"[/QUOTE] That's a totally subjective line. Whatever you think is acceptable is what you're going to label as "physical discipline". [QUOTE=Zerokateo;42809620]Exactly, apparently everyone thinks in my OP I'm talking about abusing children. I'm not talking about taking a belt and whipping some kids ass until it's red but a light pop just to get the point across.[/QUOTE] My grandpa used to use switches taken from trees and his belt. He called it disciplining his kids.

My father used to whip me with a wet towel for fun, and when I fucked up (note: at the time I laughed at it, and I still do. It was rather fun dodging the towel.) - until I learnt how to do it and whipped him in the eye.

I got the wooden spoon to the bare ass from my dad if i misbehaved and if I said something bad I'd get the bar of soap in the mouth from my mom. I turned out fine, I'm a well behaved 21 year old young man with good manners around people but I can still be a complete asshole around friends in a jokingly way and be a genuinely funny well rounded individual. The soap shit never worked though, I'm the only one in my family who swears regularly and I'm the only one who has ever gotten the soap.

When my dad used to spank us, he would only do it if we did something exceptionally bad (I've only had it about 5 times in my life). He would also always make a point about him not doing it out of anger, and if he was angry at the time, he'd calm down for 15 minutes or so then come back. He'd always explain to us why we got it beforehand, too. Otherwise, we had to find a place on the hallway wall and stand there for 30 minutes to and hour. Sucked, but it worked.

Spanking isn't wrong IMO as long as they don't use a belt or a cricket paddle. I honestly think that there are better ways though, such as making them do a few pushups.

[QUOTE=Doozle;42803677]Probably will smack my kids, never did me any harm. [editline]8th November 2013[/editline] Fuck belts and slippers though, that's cruel. A swift slap to the leg.[/QUOTE] It's actually less cruel. Hitting with your hand jars the child and introduces a potential for skeletal injury. Lighter objects tend to be better at hurting and worse at injuring than a hand.

[QUOTE=Orkel;42804915]Some mother in Finland got fined because she was spotted flicking her child's forehead by some soccer mom family worker, dumb as shit. I'm all for small physical punishment, was grown up with them and I will give them to my children in the far future if they do something stupid. Just small flicks and spanks though, because small things are what it's all about. Abuse and beating are an entirely different matter. What's up with modern society shunning stuff like spanking that's been used for thousands of years? Do people really want to grow their children inside a bag of cotton and rainbows with a complete lack of sense of danger?[/QUOTE] I grew up in a bag of cotton, then I threw myself into the real world and cut myself on every hard surface imaginable, and I learned on my own, you don't have to hit/lightly tap your child to get a point across.

I was never imposed to any physical punishment during my entire childhood. However, what my parents did when I had done something bad, was that in the process of spanking, they placed one hand on my butt, while slapping that hand with their other, giving me the impression as a kid that I was being spanked while giving away loud sounds. I cried every time and didn't realize it until I had grown up and in a conversation implied that they had physically punished me at an age. My parents are clever tricksters ;-;

My dad threw beer cans and used condoms at me. In the end I learned to take things like a man so I can see how physical discipline is good.

[QUOTE=ilikecorn;42805758]Having actually reproduced; sometimes a child will absolutely not listen to you, especially when their 2-4 years old, where they pretty much DGAF, as they don't understand dangers; in such cases, a light pop to the rear or to the hand is usually enough to dissuade my son from doing anything fucking stupid, so far every time we drop him off at a daycare or with my parents/sister, we usually get a compliment on the fact that he's super even tempered, and very attentive/listens very well. That being said, i'm not going to sit there and beat the ever living fuck out of him if he does something stupid, as that's not teaching anything. Punishment is for teaching, not for inflicting damage.[/QUOTE] I adopted my niece a few months ago and I'm glad she's old enough to understand the consequences of any actions she may take. Surprising, since my sister is a total fuck-up who barely spent time with this child.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;42803885]I don't think I could support hitting children. It basically teaches the child that violence is a completely fine method for dealing with problems. Why not just explain why the behavior is wrong without the hitting and reward good behavior? Its better than taking a violent path that can lead to alot of trauma.[/QUOTE] Every child I've seen that is treated with the 'get more flies with honey' system is a spoilt brat. Training is a mixture of negative and positive reinforcement. Children need to be trained to behave properly. A slap on the arse is a perfectly fine way to get a kid's attention and make them feel immediate consequences for an action. The reason you need immediate consequences is that's what leaves the biggest impression, if a child say, climbs onto a roof, when you pull them down you give them a slap. Why? Because the consequence of falling from the roof [I]would[/I] have been injury and pain. You're simulating that part of the learning process, without the child having to go through actually falling and potentially hurting themselves severely. I completely support spanking, and I also think that rewarding good behaviour is important too. If you build a safety bubble around a child you put them in a world where they never get hurt, nothing bad happens, and they aren't accountable. [I]The real world is not like that, at all.[/I] [editline]10th November 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Moustacheman;42816453]I adopted my niece a few months ago and I'm glad she's old enough to understand the consequences of any actions she may take. Surprising, since my sister is a total fuck-up who barely spent time with this child.[/QUOTE] Also this, if a child understands they've done something wrong and is clearly feeling guilty, there's no real reason to punish them further. It depends on the child, if they don't respond to being told off then they need it to be escalated, if they do respond to being told off, then you don't really need further punishment.

[QUOTE=Empty_Shadow;42816495]Also this, if a child understands they've done something wrong and is clearly feeling guilty, there's no real reason to punish them further. It depends on the child, if they don't respond to being told off then they need it to be escalated, if they do respond to being told off, then you don't really need further punishment.[/QUOTE] Like I said, I'll only swat my kid if they can't understand that what they're doing is wrong. Just something quick, a light flick or something of the like, and only if they're to young to be reasoned with. I will never, ever beat a child.

[QUOTE=Moustacheman;42816529]Like I said, I'll only swat my kid if they can't understand that what they're doing is wrong. Just something quick, a light flick or something of the like, and only if they're to young to be reasoned with. I will never, ever beat a child.[/QUOTE] I never said anything about beating children. Anyone who raises a fist to a child is a fucking monster, but a slap on the butt isn't going to mentally traumatise anyone. It's becoming a stigma and I don't like it. People should have the right to slap their kids if they do bad shit, i'm not forcing people who don't slap their kids to slap their kids, why should it go the other way?

my father would beat me senseless and i turned out fine i mean i drive a semi and sometimes i murder hookers