Spanking/Physical punishment of children, is it wrong? - General

A light smack on the thigh would normally set me straight, and that was only when I was really pushing it. Stern talking, grounding and extra chores were for lighter things. Punishment is for punishing and reprimanding, not for the harming aspect.

My dad told me that my grandpa would take the kids out to the forest to choose what stick would be used on them if they were naughty. When I was a child it worked for me, and looking back on it now they didn't actually hit me that hard but it really hurt at the time, I guess it stopped me from being naughty. Abusing and beating a child is definitely wrong though and will cause more problems in the future.

I don't believe in hitting children to teach them a point or put them in line, and will (hopefully) never do it to mine.

If you hit a child and justify it with them misbehaving what will stop them from thinking its alright for they themselves to hit people they don't think are acting correctly? At what age is hitting no longer acceptable? When they can reason and be rationalized with?

Myself, my brother and sister got smacked plenty times when we were being little shits - it wasn't hard and it didn't leave any marks or anything but it was pretty darn unpleasant. I mean like, we'd only get smacked as a last resort. We had to really push the boundaries. I wouldn't want to ever smack my kids if I have any, but if they were being really god damn stupid and every other way didn't get the point across, then yeah - I'd probably lightly smack the back of their leg or something, just enough for it to be unpleasant,

[QUOTE=Mr Kotov;42819679]Myself, my brother and sister got smacked plenty times when we were being little shits - it wasn't hard and it didn't leave any marks or anything but it was pretty darn unpleasant. I mean like, we'd only get smacked as a last resort. We had to really push the boundaries. I wouldn't want to ever smack my kids if I have any, but if they were being really god damn stupid and every other way didn't get the point across, then yeah - I'd probably lightly smack the back of their leg or something, just enough for it to be unpleasant,[/QUOTE] That's about how it worked for me.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;42819076]If you hit a child and justify it with them misbehaving what will stop them from thinking its alright for they themselves to hit people they don't think are acting correctly? At what age is hitting no longer acceptable? When they can reason and be rationalized with?[/QUOTE] Depends on the child but once they reach a stage where they can communicate and understand others feelings, that's roughly when physical punishment is no longer needed. It's a documented fact that children don't develop certain mental capacity until they reach certain ages. Babies don't have object permanence, and in a similar sense, most young children don't have empathy. Hence you have to punish them, you can't tell a child "You hurt sally's feelings when you bit her" because the child doesn't understand that other people have feelings. You can't treat them like adults, because they aren't adults at all.

[QUOTE=Zerokateo;42803782]off topic but I stole your avatar, I was gonna have one exactly like it made in the request thread.[/QUOTE] avatar stealing is laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame i recognize people by avatar not their name. Anyways I was and uh, I realized I didn't like being paddled so I stopped. Also parents should offer rewards for succeeding and stuffs, punishments only aren't really that good from what I've heard.

Here in Nazi-land it is the norm.

I think there are way better ways of doing things and setting an example. The best way I think is to appeal to the child's mind. Instead of saying they did something wrong have a conversation and see what they have to say, and a lot of times using their own logic they can deduct why their behavior was unsafe and it really reinforces the point because they came to their own conclusion. (i'm talking like under age 10, not sure about older kids)

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tumblr has an official stance on this believe it or not [img]http://24.media.tumblr.com/cd328a88b808ba027feaba97054c8e07/tumblr_ms5ao3VmO31rk5871o6_500.jpg[/img]

helped me shape up as a child, so i think it's good

Put it into perspective, ruling through fear alone doesn't work. People spank their children out of anger, not compassion.

I never understand why physical punishment teaches a child on behaving better, sure it does some of that but it does cause them stress, and other factors of stress, etc.

[QUOTE='[Maxx];42847445']I never understand why physical punishment teaches a child on behaving better, sure it does some of that but it does cause them stress, and other factors of stress, etc.[/QUOTE] stress isn't bad though without stress you become complacent some stress can motivate you, if it's pressure to get something done, and to get it done right.

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;42849484]stress isn't bad though without stress you become complacent some stress can motivate you, if it's pressure to get something done, and to get it done right.[/QUOTE] hm makes sense.

was just watching this yesterday: [video=youtube;DP_3EWrcDto]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP_3EWrcDto[/video]

It is not wrong in my opinion, tolerance is bad.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;42819076]If you hit a child and justify it with them misbehaving what will stop them from thinking its alright for they themselves to hit people they don't think are acting correctly? At what age is hitting no longer acceptable? When they can reason and be rationalized with?[/QUOTE] and this is why a bunch of kids are little shits who dont care about being a little shit. my girlfriend's brother is a prime example of a child that isnt really disciplined and gets away with murder. hes violent, rude as shit like calling people cunts when hes only 11, and his parents think its cute when hes calling people assholes/bitches/niggers/cunts. they did all the like reward program shit, but he wouldnt follow it and would get in trouble anyway because theres no real downside from being an asshole other than being grounded for a day or two. you are acting like people are bringing out paddles, belts, or whips when most people here mean flicking their head or doing a light slap on their rear or thigh. and if they didnt understand why what they did was bad you explain it, if they do it again you warn them, again and you actually flick them ect. i fucking dare you to raise your kid like an adult when hes 2 -7 years old.

Harming to train does not work well in any case. Wether it's a human or another animal like a dog, it's just not going to work out. There are better alternatives.

[IMG]http://puu.sh/5iEGE.png[/IMG] I saw this and got excited. Then I actually came in and was disappointed. [editline]14th November 2013[/editline] [sp]btw don't crucify me i'm not serious[/sp]

[QUOTE=Binladen34;42867282][IMG]http://puu.sh/5iEGE.png[/IMG] I saw this and got excited. Then I actually came in and was disappointed. [editline]14th November 2013[/editline] [sp]btw don't crucify me i'm not serious[/sp][/QUOTE] Don't worry Bin Laden.

[QUOTE=Mbbird;42867333]Don't worry Bin Laden.[/QUOTE] Yeah here in saudi arabia kids aren't people, so it's a culture shock.

[QUOTE=Zerokateo;42804949]Just an FYI for everyone, the belt was a swift light smack to my behind. It was not abusive in anyway.[/QUOTE] Same for me. It wasn't like I was ever scourged or anything. If anything really hurt it was the feeling of shame and disappointment. For me I never got more then 3 or 4 smacks with the belt. I feel that I've grown up well enough. But then again, I've always been pretty mellow and non-aggressive. I can understand where in some house holds physical punishment is more akin to abuse and although it may temporarily solve the problem it can set up a child to use violence or aggression to assert their way.

I believe when a child miss behaves you should go out and buy them an iPad. Since that's what seems to be happening nowadays, your child can't misbehave when there face is glued to an electronic.

Jesus christ, what is up with you guys parents. I never got harmed when I was a kid.

[QUOTE=codemaster85;42858278]and this is why a bunch of kids are little shits who dont care about being a little shit. my girlfriend's brother is a prime example of a child that isnt really disciplined and gets away with murder. hes violent, rude as shit like calling people cunts when hes only 11, and his parents think its cute when hes calling people assholes/bitches/niggers/cunts. they did all the like reward program shit, but he wouldnt follow it and would get in trouble anyway because theres no real downside from being an asshole other than being grounded for a day or two. you are acting like people are bringing out paddles, belts, or whips when most people here mean flicking their head or doing a light slap on their rear or thigh. and if they didnt understand why what they did was bad you explain it, if they do it again you warn them, again and you actually flick them ect. i fucking dare you to raise your kid like an adult when hes 2 -7 years old.[/QUOTE] You're mixing rewarding bad behaviour and not physically punishing. "Raise your kid like an adult" makes no sense. Kids can be raised like kids without violence. My stance is that if physical punishment is the only solution, it's your failure as a parent not having prevented it proactively.

If I ever saw an adult laying a violent hand on a child, I'd beat them to a bloody fucking pulp. That's not a joke, I'm a victim of child abuse and it's never fucking okay, no matter what point people try to prove. All it does is put fear and trauma into the child's mind.

[QUOTE=G-Strogg;42874792]Jesus christ, what is up with you guys parents. I never got harmed when I was a kid.[/QUOTE] Harm is not the same as pain, or as discipline. Parents theses days are to soft, and as such there kids grow up to be assholes who they are better than everyone else. Sometimes you need a good slap on the ass to put you in line. I got spanking, ands I have no physical scars, no mental scars. It really isn't any kind of "abuse". [editline]15th November 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Shark Bones;42875139]If I ever saw an adult laying a violent hand on a child. I'd beat them to a bloody fucking pulp. That's not a joke, I'm a victim of child abuse and it's never fucking okay, no matter what point people try to prove. All it does is put fear and trauma into the child's mind.[/QUOTE] Also sorry to hear you were abused as a child, that's a real fucking shitty thing to go through, but spankings don't come close to abuse. I was spanked as a child and have no emotional scarring. I am sorry, but if you're being a shitty little asshole, and words aren't effective then the next thing is a good spank.