I think the best way to learn another language is to live there for a couple years.
You'll come back not remembering a lick of English. lol But damn you'll speak russian and speak it well.
Thanks to the 11 y/o faggots who play call of duty and the sudden spike of Russian "weeabos" telling anyeone you like the country and want to learn the language instantly makes you retarded according to most people. But keep at it
[QUOTE='[ToRn];32537366']This is true. I did this with a Russian Language tape before. I woke up in the KGB Headquaters in Moscow with U.S missile blueprints in my pocket.[/QUOTE]
How exactly did you go to Russia, then to the US and back in less than 12 hours.
*brb*
[QUOTE=cdBiohazard;32540523]As everyone had already said, don't learn it. It's useless and will be redundant soon when it's a short matter of time that Russia will cease existing because of the government and the people we have here.[/QUOTE]
Are you special or some shit? Russian is the 8th most spoken language in the world and one of the UN's 6 official languages, I don't think it's just going to become obsolete.
I am Russian by blood, I think you should just live there to learn so you really challenge yourself to do it.
Buy an AK type of rifle, an album of T.A.T.U and Vodka.
T.A.T.U.? That is so ten years ago. What he needs is some Serega:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz9r3Vmahl0&feature=related[/media]
Sorry guys, it's taken me a while to get through all this. All the comments telling me to learn English are extremely dumb, it was late at the time I wrote the original post. I have been trying to learn the alphabet before I moved on to tutoring and Rosetta Stone. So far I have a pretty good grasp of the Russian (Is it referred to as 'Slavic', not Russian?) alphabet (eg I can write sentences using English word and sentence structure in Cyrillic letters). I am going to start doing Rosetta Stone and then after I finish Rosetta Stone I am going to try and get some tutoring at school. Is there any better methods? Has anyone here (besides Russian natives) learned the language?
[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];32537582']I learned some basic Russian, and it was actually rather simple. The main thing that I would suggest is maybe taking on a language that's more similar to your native language. Since you're in America, it seems, I would assume your native language is English. Maybe learn Spanish first, or German. English has weird mechanics, but most Indo-European languages, Russian included, have very similar mechanics that you might grasp easier working with a language closer to your native tongue first.
I learned Spanish before I took on Russian, but it made Russian so much easier to learn, and with Spanish being at least somewhat close to English, at least in the alphabet if nothing else (which Russian obviously does not share), I was able to learn the mechanics better than if I were to have learned, say, Chinese, Arabic, or whatnot. I assume German would be great for this, because German seems to be extremely close to English.[/QUOTE]
Try this. From what I've heard the more languages you know the easier it is to learn a new one. I myself am looking to learn Dutch from my Mom (she's originally from the Netherlands) but it's kind of hard to find time our schedules. Sometime after that I too am interested in learning Russian as well as Arabic.
[QUOTE=Scoot12;32549546]I am Russian by blood, I think you should just live there to learn so you really challenge yourself to do it.[/QUOTE]
Every Canadian I met here has grand or grand-grand parents from Russia
Still none of them knows a single thing about Russia
[editline]30th September 2011[/editline]
Recently some girl said to me: "You are from Moscow? That Australia, right?"
At least they don't say retarded shit like "lol commie" like they do in the USA
DON'T FUCKING USE ROSETTA STONE.
FUCK.
ARE YOU FUCKING DISABLED?
Okay, now that's over with.
A brilliant site that has all the information you will ever need it located here.
[url]http://how-to-learn-any-language.com[/url]
It's basically a forum of polyglot's (People who speak 5+ languages) and language learners. I've been browsing it for quite a while and it's really helped me get started with my french. Anyway, glad to help.
[editline]30th September 2011[/editline]
Oh yes, anyone saying that russian is a useless language and he should learn Spanish/German/French/etc can go fuck a landmine, you learn a language for it's sound, the love of languages and the rich culture that comes with it. For example, i want to learn Thai.
What the hell, Rosetta Stone is great, sans the price tag.
I've got a basic grasp of Russian thanks to it.
Here's the article i was looking for.
[url]http://www.tofugu.com/2009/12/01/alternatives-to-rosetta-stone-japanese-i-e-should-i-buy-rosetta-stone/[/url]
[QUOTE=The Aussie;32551882]Here's the article i was looking for.
[url]http://www.tofugu.com/2009/12/01/alternatives-to-rosetta-stone-japanese-i-e-should-i-buy-rosetta-stone/[/url][/QUOTE]
I agree that Rosetta Stone is a little expensive, but it's good. Particularly in New Zealand where there are very little other ways one could learn Russian.
Also, I wanted to say how you couldn't compare Russian to Japanese but I just can't bring up a strong enough point, except for that Japanese is much harder than Russian, thanks to having to learn tens of thousands of kanji.
I studied Russian for two years. Here's my experience as a native Swedish speaker:
[img]http://ulj.mine.nu/gallery/images/nav_dot.gif[/img]Reading and writing the cyrillic alphabet was surprisingly easy. After just a few weeks we could pretty much do it fluently and write just as fast as we could using latin characters.
[img]http://ulj.mine.nu/gallery/images/nav_dot.gif[/img]Pronunciation can be tricky. There are many exceptions to the rules, and sometimes you have to guess. For example: "o" should be pronounced as "a" if it isn't accentuated.
[img]http://ulj.mine.nu/gallery/images/nav_dot.gif[/img]Listen comprehension is hard since most Russians speak very quickly. But like with most languages, you just have to practice alot to get it down.
[img]http://ulj.mine.nu/gallery/images/nav_dot.gif[/img]Grammar is a bitch. It was the main reason why I gave up trying to learn the language. You have 3 genders + plural and 6 cases. You must memorize all the suffixes. But wait, it gets worse. Verbs are impossible. I never fully understood them. In Russian you more or less have two words for each verb. Like, in English, we have two verbs for using our ears. We can either "listen" or "hear". In Russian they have the same thing, but for [B]every fucking verb[/B]. This was really confusing to me, as to when you should use one form of "reading" over another. Very frustrating. Another bullshit thing they have is that the currency, "rubel", should be said in three different ways depending on what amount of rubles you have. It's really fucking stupid and the rules have no consistency.
[img]http://ulj.mine.nu/gallery/images/nav_dot.gif[/img]Aside from grammar, vocabulary is your worst enemy. You just have to memorize a bunch of words which sound completely random. That's not easy.
So overall I just want to say that for me (Swedish, English, German speaker) Russian was pretty hard. But I'm glad I took it, because I learned the alphabet. If you want to learn more Russian than being able to say your name-level, you should be willing to sacrifice a couple of years of study time. It's a very hard language, but not impossible by any means.
[QUOTE=Blitzkrieg Zero;32532821]Say everything in a deep, rugged voice.[/QUOTE]
For that just smoke and drink erryday.
why would you want to?
answer that question first.
If you want to read Dostoyevsky, Tolstoy, and Solzhenitsyn without translation, or perhaps have serious job offers of working there, sure that's a valid reason
If it's only because zomg russia is so kewl and I liek soviet shiiit.
no, you're wasting your time, and will probably quit.
Sure some polyglots like to learn languages for fun, but they [b]probably[/b] grew up in a multilingual environment so it's easy for them. You don't seem like one of those people.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/3tKWV.png[/img]
[QUOTE=trotskygrad;32555516]why would you want to?
answer that question first.
If you want to read Dostoyevsky, Tolstoy, and Solzhenitsyn without translation, or perhaps have serious job offers of working there, sure that's a valid reason
If it's only because zomg russia is so kewl and I liek soviet shiiit.
no, you're wasting your time, and will probably quit.
Sure some polyglots like to learn languages for fun, but they [b]probably[/b] grew up in a multilingual environment so it's easy for them. You don't seem like one of those people.[/QUOTE]
Valid jobs in Russia?
Why the hell do you think I moved here then?
Do something worthwhile learn Mandarin or Cantonese.
[QUOTE=An Actual Bear;32563289]Do something worthwhile learn Mandarin or Cantonese.[/QUOTE]
Those are next to impossible.
i take back what i said earlier.
rosetta stone doesn't explain grammar at all and it sucks and is useless.
[QUOTE=Samiam22;32563521]Those are next to impossible.[/QUOTE]
Not if you live there.
[QUOTE=An Actual Bear;32564700]Not if you live there.[/QUOTE]
Yes but I doubt he's going to move to China just to learn the language.
You could give the same argument for Russian.
It pisses me off that people are trying to tell you not to learn it. Don't listen to them; learn the language that you want to learn, not the language that everyone thinks is useful. I've been learning Russian for 1 year on my own and it's quite difficult. I had been learning Spanish for 4 years before I started so maybe that's helped me achieve my decent progress in Russian.
[QUOTE=Rad McCool;32552058]Grammar is a bitch. It was the main reason why I gave up trying to learn the language. You have 3 genders + plural and 6 cases. You must memorize all the suffixes. But wait, it gets worse. Verbs are impossible. I never fully understood them. In Russian you more or less have two words for each verb. Like, in English, we have two verbs for using our ears. We can either "listen" or "hear". In Russian they have the same thing, but for every fucking verb. This was really confusing to me, as to when you should use one form of "reading" over another. Very frustrating. Another bullshit thing they have is that the currency, "rubel", should be said in three different ways depending on what amount of rubles you have. It's really fucking stupid and the rules have no consistency.[/QUOTE]
True. The alphabet really is the least of your problems. I don't want to intimidate you but Russian grammar really is a bitch. Almost every verb comes in pairs (and verbs of motion like swim, carry, walk etc. come in "triplets") and you have to figure out which one to use based on the context. And the thing about "ruble" being said in three different ways depending on the number – that actually applies for all nouns. I think the complex grammar is actually rewarding once you get the hang of it because you feel pretty accomplished. Also, one thing that you didn't mention was the irregular stress and shifting stress when declining nouns. :suicide: Hey, it could be worse, you could be learning Finnish!
[QUOTE=b4nny;32568141]It pisses me off that people are trying to tell you not to learn it. Don't listen to them; learn the language that you want to learn, not the language that everyone thinks is useful. I've been learning Russian for 1 year on my own and it's quite difficult. I had been learning Spanish for 4 years before I started so maybe that's helped me achieve my decent progress in Russian.
True. The alphabet really is the least of your problems. I don't want to intimidate you but Russian grammar really is a bitch. Almost every verb comes in pairs (and verbs of motion like swim, carry, walk etc. come in "triplets") and you have to figure out which one to use based on the context. And the thing about "ruble" being said in three different ways depending on the number – that actually applies for all nouns. I think the complex grammar is actually rewarding once you get the hang of it because you feel pretty accomplished. Also, one thing that you didn't mention was the irregular stress and shifting stress when declining nouns. :suicide: Hey, it could be worse, you could be learning [B]Finnish[/B]![/QUOTE]
NOOOOO!
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