I'd like to move out earlier but I think I'll probably be stuck at my parents until I'm 24 due to house prices and needing somewhere cheap to stay while I do my accountancy courses. I hope you can find somewhere nice to live, is it cheap to live over there?
this is heartbreaking.
I know this are just words from a guy on the Internet.
But I hope for you mate
Thanks for the help and support FP, i really appreciate it. My dad got home from the TDY he had in georgia today and cooled my mom down for another time, and convinced her to treat me better for a while, however im still getting a job and putting money back for when i do decide to move out.
I really appreciate ya'll helping, thanks <3
[editline]20th January 2012[/editline]
And yes harry potter had a bad life
You're welcome, you sound so sensible :)
[QUOTE=newbs;34313356]As long as your not "that kid who borrows his mothers credit card to buy food and purchases weed kind of kid", then I genuinely feel sorry for you.[/QUOTE]
wow
I didnt know drug dealers had EFT and credit card facilities
theyre really upscale these days
Swallow your ego.
[editline]21st January 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Septimas;34314591]
And yes harry potter had a bad life[/QUOTE]
But yer not a wizard !
I had a friend who moved out of their house at 17, dropped out of school, started smoking crack, and got pregnant with in 2 months. Moral of this story, you don't have an option if you plan on living a good life, talk it out with your Mom.
I have a friend that moved out and he is 17. He works as his own landscaper. He bought his own, super nice truck and his own cell phone. He had to buy all new clothes and everything because his parents wouldn't let him take his that he had. They sold all his furniture that was in his room too, including his bed. He had to start from scratch on his own in an apartment. He didn't even have a toothbrush.
If you get a steady part-time job that pays you well, I think you could do it.
[QUOTE=Septimas;34314591]And yes harry potter had a bad life[/QUOTE]
You're a wizard, Harry.
I was forced out at 16 with about a week to prepare.
If you can get it all sorted out in time, and you think you can handle it, then go for it. My experience fucking sucked.
I was forced to live by myself at 17.
I'll skip the long story, but taking care of myself in such a young age is difficult.
I got in a lot of trouble, to be unspecific, mainly because I was young and didn't think things properly through.
Good thing that you got things settled with your family, if only temporary, but you'll see later in life how much family means.
[QUOTE=Septimas;34299569]I've tried to mend things, it just doesn't work, I can't go 2 days without somehow getting in a small argument which gets blown out of proportion.
I don't know how you all and friends have good relationships with their family, im honestly jealous of it. Ive never been close with my parents, my dads always consumed in his work in the airforce and either deployed or thinking about work, and my mom just doesn't click with me at all, which causes tons of problems as it is.
fuck man:([/QUOTE]
Shit man, I know how you feel. I live with my three sisters, one brother, and my parents. Not one day goes by without a HUGE fight. My mum's fucking psychotic, She swears and screams her lungs out at the smallest shit. Like, If you asked for something, then she said no, and you ask again, It would cause a shitstorm that would last the whole day. I fucking hate everyone of my sisters. They're all selfish cunts who wouldn't lift a finger for anybody. They constantly say how they wish I was dead and how I'm ugly and pathetic. They have no reason to say this, but they do. My oldest sister has fucking daddy issues or some shit. She has to be in a relationship at all times. Her boyfriend cheats on her, uploads pictures of him kissing other girls on Facebook and doesn't give a shit. He's the biggest dick ever. One time, when he was at my house with my sister, I walked into my fucking livingroom and he told me to "get the fuck out", I couldn't fucking believe it, Some random kid telling me to get the fuck out of a room in my house. I went up to his face and said "What?", He then pushed me and laughed at me. I headbutted him and punched him in the jaw. He's never sense came into my house. Anyway, my other sisters are complete dicks. One of them is some wannabe emo kid who thinks she's unique and individual. My last sister is a fucking pyhsco chav. She was drinking and smoking when she was like 12, thinking it was cool. She's also a fucking slut. She was having sex at 14 with 20 year olds. I truly hate her more than anyone in the whole world. My brothers pretty cool. He's probably the only person in my family that I SOMETIMES get along with.
[QUOTE=nothung;34323893]I had a friend who moved out of their house at 17, dropped out of school, started smoking crack, and got pregnant with in 2 months. Moral of this story, you don't have an option if you plan on living a good life, talk it out with your Mom.[/QUOTE]
I can't fathom how you survived so long with your logic.
Your best option is to get emancipated IMO. It was the only option for a couple friends of mine, largely because in the state of minnesota the courts are so female biased for child custody (90% or so) they will award custody to a mentally unstable cunt with an abusive drunk for a boyfriend over a man without a single scratch on his criminal record.
[QUOTE=Septimas;34299479]I think my mom is already canceling my phone plan, selling my car, and I have to pay for most of my shit without a job. She isn't letting me get a job...[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry, but she sounds fucking stupid.
"If you want these things, then you'll have to pay for it with your own money."
"Fine, then I'll get a job."
"No, you'll make money and be able to afford shit."
wat
If you are man enough and can take care of yourself go for it. But since you are asking here you are obviously not so im gonna say: NO
I will surely sound like an asshole now but think about it: No education, no job, no car, no money, no house. Nothing good will come from leaving now.
Besides that you are 17 and in puberty, shit is supposed to be a bit crappy with your parrents. Shit might be worse for you, but also think about the fact that every family holds up a pretty facade. Only they know what goes on behind their smiles. You might not have it so bad.
I think it's almost impossible to move into your own place though. Living with a friend, maybe. But renting your own place, even if you had savings is almost always destined to failure. Unless you have a full time job where at least one of your paychecks that month (or your paycheck if you get paid monthly or something) can pay for the rent, utilities, food and so on, along with gas to drive to work assuming you have a car and can't walk or something. It's expensive and trying to do it without a steady, reliable income is destined to failure.
Build a treehouse and live there for a while.
I'd move out if possible.
You shouldn't be too concerned about it, my mom acts the same way too. It's understandable though, she gets stressed out from work.
If you need to move out, I would get a job and use money on only essentials (food, a room). Finish up school and then move into a public university where the education is cheaper. Dorm there and use the money you saved to pay loans and apply for federal loans.
I graduate when I'm 17. So I'll have to move out and live alone. D:
[QUOTE=Variant;34329568]I'm sorry, but she sounds fucking stupid.
"If you want these things, then you'll have to pay for it with your own money."
"Fine, then I'll get a job."
"No, you'll make money and be able to afford shit."
wat[/QUOTE]
It's not a matter of stupidity. This is a very common tactic with domestic abusers, to ensure the victim does not have the means to free themselves, and control what they own.
17 is kinda young, 18-20 is early. try to mend a relationship with your mom. apologize and tell her you love her :)
Alright OP, let me give you a lesson in reality. You think them not paying for YOUR education is bad? Selling a car THEY bought for you is bad? Oh boy, life is going to treat you well.
So let me explain something. First, "living on your own" does NOT mean living with friends. "Living on your own" commonly refers to having your own apartment, your own job, etc.
A few lessons from someone who has been down this road (and early too):
1. If you can't pay rent with a weeks paycheck, you can't afford it. NEVER carry payments over across multiple paychecks.
2. Don't just think about things like rent. Think about food, utilities, water, etc. Let me let you in on a little secret, you think living on your own will allow you to have friends over and whatnot, but it costs money to have people over. Every time they use your bathroom, they use your water, they use your electricity, they use your toilet paper, etc. They eat your food, they use your plates (usually consisting of paper or plastic), you get the idea.
3. You will have to make at least $12 an hour to be able to live on your own comfortably. You can live on your own for about $10, but you're going to struggle and end up living in a shitty apartment.
4. Be prepared to eat a lot of ramen. Trust me, it gets old.
5. You think you stay up late now? Wait until you live alone, you'll be in bed by 10.
Think about what you're doing. You may THINK your family doesn't love you, but ever heard of "tough love?" When I was 17, I thought I knew it all. Thought I had everything mapped out, etc. My parents did things different too. When I left the house, I WASN'T allowed to come back. Would they let me stay for a meal or a few nights? Of course, but I wasn't allowed to move back in.
Why? Because it doesn't teach you responsibility if you fuck up. When you leave the house, you are saying, "I am responsible enough and financially stable enough to live on my own." Most people will run into hard times. A down payment on an apartment normally runs double rent. You get it back, but it's still a hunk of change you have to come up with.
Protip: NEVER live with roommates who are friends. Preferably, never live with roommates at all. Any time you get people who live together who aren't family, it never ends well. Even with family, like living with aunts and uncles, it never ends well. Disagreements happen and your entire life can get fucked by one of them simply not contributing their part of rent.
If you decide to go through with it, good luck. I'd strongly suggest you think carefully.
Also, OP, you sound like a spoiled little child to be completely honest. Did it ever occur that your mother is having a rough time? If your father is always away, did you ever even CONSIDER she may be lonely and simply taking it out on the wrong people? All I've seen you pretty much doing, is crying about how she's cancelling your shit and selling a car she bought for you. Does it make it right that she takes it out on you? No, but you need to put yourself in her shoes. Also, you don't need parental approval to get a job (at least not in most states) if you're over the age of 16. Go out, get a job, and buy your own shit. It sounds to me like she wants you to help out more and get your life in order.
You will NOT be able to make it on your own. Unless you plan to live with a friend (which isn't really even "on your own"), you're going to fail. I can tell you don't have the skills it takes. You're still in school, you've got no job, and generally you have this idea that life will be much better when you're out on your own. It won't be. Trust me. You leave now, you WON'T be able to get a car or a phone because you have no credit + no job.
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