well yes the first is what i was talking about mostly. im struggling with it at the moment myself but to say that my asperger's syndrome itself needs to disappear as if we're talking about some sort of viral infection, i dont think that's right. then again i really dont know what to do with it. i mean there's all sorts of behavioural therapy of course but i dont think the problem im dealing with lies in my behaviour but in how i view the world and mostly myself. its just something that i need to learn with. maybe that's the 'cure'. i dunno. saying it's a 'cure' just makes it sound like we're talking about something like hiv to me and that confuses the living shit out of me tbh
and its different for everyone else of course i mean i dont deal with the same shit the next person does and he may or may not have aspects of it in worse or less degree than i do i get it, its different for everyone, but i honestly think, and maybe thats naivety, that time, patience and understanding can help a person a great deal already. that is, if they aren't actually 2 mentally while they're 20 physically. but even then the same applies. its just that they might never be able to function in society like any other person. its very well possible that i can say the same for me too
Its a rather complicated debate.
On the one hand you have people suffering sometimes extremely so.
On the other hand do we really want to give other people the right to start curing certain mindsets? Just with autism alone this will cause many issues as what is autistic enough that "curing" starts to become a good idea?
And do we really trust others to limit themselves to curing autism?
They have tried such things in the past and then we ended up with this situation:
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosemary_Kennedy[/url]
Call me paranoid but I don't trust humanity enough at this point in time to not fuck it up again.
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;50261431]Yes, this is including lost productivity. Pensions cost an enormous amount of money and vastly outweigh other factors when actually calculated.[/QUOTE]
I'd rather have my money used to help people who can't help themselves because.... well everyone gets old, than some people who don't realize that they need to change when they perfectly can.
[QUOTE=Murky42;50275030]Its a rather complicated debate.
On the one hand you have people suffering sometimes extremely so.
On the other hand do we really want to give other people the right to start curing certain mindsets? Just with autism alone this will cause many issues as what is autistic enough that "curing" starts to become a good idea?
And do we really trust others to limit themselves to curing autism?
They have tried such things in the past and then we ended up with this situation:
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosemary_Kennedy[/url]
Call me paranoid but I don't trust humanity enough at this point in time to not fuck it up again.[/QUOTE]
thankfully a [I]lot[/I] of advancements have been made in the benefit of people with autism. i know a man who is 50 years old and has asperger's himself too, when he was 10, people didn't even have a term for it yet, they were just 'odd' and 'weird'. thankfully we also know now lobotomy is a fucking stupid idea for treating behavioural disorders and while we still struggle with finding a way that works 100% of the time, were honestly on the right track because at the moment the treatments that are used most often work 70% of the time and that is a lot
[QUOTE=Killuah;50275058]I'd rather have my money used to help people who can't help themselves because.... well everyone gets old, than some people who don't realize that they need to change when they perfectly can.[/QUOTE]
Where did I suggest we shouldn't help people? My point was that sin taxes aren't economically justified because they aren't effective at reducing consumption substantially (or, more accurately, ending participation, in the case of smoking) and because smokers/the obese aren't actually a net drain on the economy.
[QUOTE=Murky42;50275030]Its a rather complicated debate.
On the one hand you have people suffering sometimes extremely so.
On the other hand do we really want to give other people the right to start curing certain mindsets? Just with autism alone this will cause many issues as what is autistic enough that "curing" starts to become a good idea?
And do we really trust others to limit themselves to curing autism?
They have tried such things in the past and then we ended up with this situation:
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosemary_Kennedy[/url]
Call me paranoid but I don't trust humanity enough at this point in time to not fuck it up again.[/QUOTE]
All the stories surrounding lobotomies are so fucking sad.
I'll never understand how anyone could ever see that as an acceptable solution to anything.
[QUOTE=GentlemanLexi;50269727]"Fatness has little to nothing to do with health"
Is this even real? There's no way anybody can believe that. That's just 100% denial.
Even diseases that cause increased weight gain are to do with health, for example hypothyroidism. If you suffer from it, you still have to manage your diet to avoid the weight gain rather than say "Oh, I'm gaining weight from my thyroid being fucked, my diet has nothing to do with it!"
I think the worst part is that as soon as you try and argue, she'll bring out any of her "trump cards" which will instantly prove her right and that whoever is arguing against her is a misogynistic fat shaming degenerate.
Fuck this society.[/QUOTE]
Like I said, this "power through victim hood" needs to go.
[QUOTE]However, the writer of the article is exhibiting the same behavior of tearing people down because of their conflicting points of view, while the "Triggered SJW" just wanted the man who effectively doxxed her and the community that supported it to be held responsible for their actions.[/QUOTE]
The sad thing is, the only way people who are hostile in a name of a morality, will cease being hostile when they become the victim of said hostility.
[QUOTE=Hatley;50248544]I used to have a neighbour who was even fatter than Trigglypuff. I won't go into the gruesome details, but she peaked at a quarter of a ton. That's 250kg, or 551lbs. She died a couple weeks ago, age 50. And she was lucky, very nearly died in her 40s due to a heart attack.
Fatness has a whole goddamn lot to do with health.[/QUOTE]
You don't see many morbidly obese old people. There's a reason
[QUOTE=Dayzofwinter;50323986][video=youtube;cGRjJsFyelU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGRjJsFyelU[/video][/QUOTE]
actually a parody interview
is that lawyer satire
"i dont believe in copyright law it is the work of the patriarchy"
"we will be copyrighting the trigglypuff moniker"
[editline]15th May 2016[/editline]
fuck its a parody rip
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