Are woman leaders less prone to corruption? - General

[QUOTE=Chili Banan;32502836]That's just unfair. More men (men in power) have made wrong decisions than women have. [/QUOTE] Because men have been in power far longer than women have.

[QUOTE=Dick Tracy;32506609]Care to link any of the studies? The way we solve things can be learned when we are very young and in the way we are raised. Boys for instance will most of the time get tools and things that stimulates our creative thinking, whereas girls will most likely get dolls and things that help stimulate social awareness etc.[/QUOTE]I had it in my psychology class. Unfortunately it was in a different language (german maybe) and I can't find it, but I'm still looking. If I find it I'll link it. Have this instead [url]http://www.medicaleducationonline.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=46&Itemid=69[/url]

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;32506724]If you were rich.[/QUOTE] Or poor. Turns out people like owning their own home, even if it is just a council flat.

[QUOTE=Capitulazyguy;32507912]Or poor. Turns out people like owning their own home, even if it is just a council flat.[/QUOTE] Yeah she also caused thousands of people to lose their jobs, caused various public services to fall apart and lets not forget the fact that she skipped negotiations before going into the Falklands war.

[QUOTE=Dick Tracy;32506609]Care to link any of the studies? The way we solve things can be learned when we are very young and in the way we are raised. Boys for instance will most of the time get tools and things that stimulates our creative thinking, whereas girls will most likely get dolls and things that help stimulate social awareness etc.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.zimbio.com/Spatial+Awareness+of+Men+Versus+Women/articles/3/can+men+find+their+way+around[/url] [url]http://www.theprovince.com/cars/cars+make+more+manly+study+shows/1870063/there+reason+directions/1600793/story.html[/url] [url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1574402/Women-and-gay-men-are-worst-drivers.html[/url] So yes, it probably has more to do with hormone balance in the brain during fetal development when it develops than how someone is raised.

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;32509422]Yeah she also caused thousands of people to lose their jobs, caused various public services to fall apart and lets not forget the fact that she skipped negotiations before going into the Falklands war.[/QUOTE] What was there to negotiate if the Argentinians were [I]invading[/I]? Plus the fact is, she started the transition from the UK's dependence on resource and industrial work, to the service industry. Without that we would not be as rich as we are today, since we would not be able to compete with China and the NICs in south east Asia.

There isn't really that big of a difference between men and women especially when it comes to this. Most of the stuff people are saying about women come from social gender differences and not how a women could genetically be different from a man. So I would say they are just as prone to being corrupt as men.

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;32509422]Yeah she also caused thousands of people to lose their jobs, caused various public services to fall apart and lets not forget the fact that she skipped negotiations before going into the Falklands war.[/QUOTE] Negotiations? The Argies invaded.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_and_psychology[/url] The official scientific consensus seems to be "not sure". Most older research says it's more innate, more modern research says it isn't. Genders are very stratified in modern society, so it's hard to tell, but my money is on sex being insignificant.

There are very distinct physical differences in how men and women's brains are wired as well. It would only make sense if they reacted and thought differently under the same stimuli. There's research that suggest the part of the brain that deals with most mathematical ability is much larger in men than it is in women. This would obviously equate to more men being in the fields of mathematics, engineering, and science... which we see all the time. On the flip side women are more able to use both sides of their brain while men are stronger on the left side and weaker on the right. This causes men to be more talk oriented and isolated while women are more social and able to pick up on non obvious cues.

[QUOTE=Silly Sil;32507345]I had it in my psychology class. Unfortunately it was in a different language (german maybe) and I can't find it, but I'm still looking. If I find it I'll link it. Have this instead [url]http://www.medicaleducationonline.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=46&Itemid=69[/url][/QUOTE] An ISBN will do, I think the european union has a standarized one. =) [QUOTE=Chrille;32510211][url]http://www.zimbio.com/Spatial+Awareness+of+Men+Versus+Women/articles/3/can+men+find+their+way+around[/url] [url]http://www.theprovince.com/cars/cars+make+more+manly+study+shows/1870063/there+reason+directions/1600793/story.html[/url] [url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1574402/Women-and-gay-men-are-worst-drivers.html[/url] So yes, it probably has more to do with hormone balance in the brain during fetal development when it develops than how someone is raised.[/QUOTE] Some pretty interesting links there (you and Sil), thanks! [QUOTE=Rubs10;32512363][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_and_psychology[/url] The official scientific consensus seems to be "not sure". Most older research says it's more innate, more modern research says it isn't. Genders are very stratified in modern society, so it's hard to tell, but my money is on sex being insignificant.[/QUOTE] It's a really intricate science and really hard to measure, that's for sure! I'm sure sex is significant, but perhaps not as significant as we are lead to believe.

Let's pretend for a moment that it is women who hold the most power in the world. If this thread were about men's questionable incompetence in leadership, how would you feel? (Because men are so violent & lack compassion, blah, blah, blah...) "Are black leaders less prone to corruption?" "Are leaders who were single children less prone to corruption?" Those topics make as much sense. You should judge the individual, not simply based on whether or not they have ovaries.

[QUOTE=Best4bond;32502476]I dont think women are able to make the mental judgement of things like wars as men can.[/QUOTE] You know us women are people too, right? Just because the girls at your school wont stand your ignorant mindset doesn't mean you should discriminate every female. Or perhaps you had issues with your mother. Don't be judge people based on sex, OP and guy above.

[QUOTE=NicoleEmilid;32514148] Don't be judge people based on sex, OP and guy above.[/QUOTE] Do you mean me? I'm FOR women leadership---& I'm a woman myself.

[QUOTE=BlueChihuahua;32514361]Do you mean me? I'm FOR women leadership---& I'm a woman myself.[/QUOTE] Good. I meant mostly Best4bond.

[QUOTE=BlueChihuahua;32514361]Do you mean me? I'm FOR women leadership---& I'm a woman myself.[/QUOTE] I hope you mean you're for male and female leadership.

sarah palin

[QUOTE=mobrockers2;32515343]I hope you mean you're for male and female leadership.[/QUOTE] Yes. But I'm stating it in the way one would say, "I'm for gay rights." You don't often hear, "I'm for straight & gay rights." Most assume you mean that. I'm quite surprised how many guys in this thread believe women are apparently below them. In a free election, I hope the most competent person is victorious regardless of gender.

[QUOTE=BlueChihuahua;32515434]Yes. But I'm stating it in the way one would say, "I'm for gay rights." You don't often hear, "I'm for straight & gay rights." Since to so many folks in this thread believe women are apparently below them.[/QUOTE] Yes but seeing as in most civilized country's women can already have a leadership position, for a second it though you meant women only. In that second I had already posted.

[QUOTE=mobrockers2;32515468]Yes but seeing as in most civilized country's women can already have a leadership position, for a second it though you meant women only. In that second I had already posted.[/QUOTE] I did the same replying to Nicole. We're all human.

There are many exceptional military leaders who are female. I know several personally.

[QUOTE=Best4bond;32502476]I dont think women are able to make the mental judgement of things like wars as men can.[/QUOTE] I recall a study wherein it was professed that women leaders pushed into the position can oftentimes reach much much more pragmatic decisions. Though I'd be very hard pressed to find it again. Been a few years. It was essentially centered around the fact that men tend to have a much more complex pride feeling which sometimes prevent them from taking the rational choice and instead make a number of decision on how they look like. Keep in mind we're talking about leadership not actual combat prowess, where women tend to be slightly worse off due to some biological differences. Lower upper body strength and similar. Though our reliance on technology has alleviated a number of these problems as well. @chrille - as to driving. One of the articles you linked to directly leads to another one which blatantly states that women make better drivers - by accident amount.

[QUOTE=BlueChihuahua;32514011]Let's pretend for a moment that it is women who hold the most power in the world. If this thread were about men's questionable incompetence in leadership, how would you feel? (Because men are so violent & lack compassion, blah, blah, blah...)[/QUOTE] I dunno, but if I felt bad, extremely fucking tough because men and women are different, contrary to what liberals like to believe.

[QUOTE=Elecbullet;32516018]I dunno, but if I felt bad, extremely fucking tough because men and women are different, contrary to what liberals like to believe.[/QUOTE] Are you really going to bring politics into this...? What's wrong with having different approaches to a problem? Why would it be a problem if a female leader wants to avoid a violent war? I'm also pointing out the stupidity of stereotypes. In a female dominated society, would you enjoy being painted as blood-thirsty & incompetent? Are all men really blood-thirsty?

Things like corruption are largely gender blind. As in, political corruption of politicians affects both genders equally.

No, women are not less prone to corruption, that's a very sexist thing to say.

[QUOTE=Laserbeams;32517353]No, women are not less prone to corruption, that's a very sexist thing to say.[/QUOTE] I don't consider it sexist to consider the possibility that there would be sexual dimorphism in the human species.

Females less prone to corruption? I don't think so, because if corruption brings more money/power/whatever the person wants to use it for whatever his/her goals are, it becomes very tempting to use it for that "greater good". Later it does not matter anymore, until getting caught.

[QUOTE=BlueChihuahua;32516113]I'm also pointing out the stupidity of stereotypes. In a female dominated society, would you enjoy being painted as blood-thirsty & incompetent? Are all men really blood-thirsty?[/QUOTE] People already do that. I had to take a class called Men and Women in society because it was the only class that fit into my schedule... it should have been called how men are violent, thoughtless, oppressors and women are strong willed, smart, and oppressed.

[QUOTE=sgman91;32517919]People already do that. I had to take a class called Men and Women in society because it was the only class that fit into my schedule... it should have been called how men are violent, thoughtless, oppressors and women are strong willed, smart, and oppressed.[/QUOTE] Then you should understand my point precisely.