[QUOTE=Dan The Man;21594630]I could kill for an opiate buzz right about now. I may order me some more Codeines again, haven't visited that world for a month or so now. :smug:[/QUOTE]
I have no access to any drugs right now :( Smoking/drinking is about all I can do but I feel a yearning for something more exciting. I don't know any dealers or anything :(
[QUOTE=Dan The Man;21594376]even MDMA.[/QUOTE]
I think MDMA fucked up my mind(heavy use, daily for a while), but I don't agree that it's side affects are permanent, because I felt back to normal about 7-10 months after I stopped using it and meth.
I'm not really a big opiate guy, yea it feels good but it's not something i'd want to do everyday. uppers are more my thing.
[QUOTE=Dan The Man;21594579]Well, anyone can see it's about drug use. So you should accept that we talk about all drugs here and that belittling people for using anything other than weed is ridiculous.
Your previous status on the forum doesn't mean anything. People like Anubis and StayBlazed, and more recently, Aaron, Qwerty and kobilica (I could go on) have added SO much more and I respect them based on what they do now, not what they used to do.[/QUOTE]
You'd make a good politician you know that? With all the words you're putting in my mouth and whatnot. Do I have to explain every little thing to you? Ok. Here.
My name is Steve
I live in California
I smoke pot drink all the free liquor I can get my hands on and occasionally nom on some shrooms.
I accept everything around me, but that doesn't mean i'm not going to try and persuade them to stop if I think they're heading down a wrong path.
I belittle no one who doesn't have it coming.
That's settled. Now you can stop trying to pin me down with things that i'm not.
[QUOTE=SilverHammer;21594766]You'd make a good politician you know that? With all the words you're putting in my mouth and whatnot. Do I have to explain every little thing to you? Ok. Here.
My name is Steve
I live in California
I smoke pot drink all the free liquor I can get my hands on and occasionally nom on some shrooms.
I accept everything around me, but that doesn't mean i'm not going to try and persuade them to stop if I think they're heading down a wrong path.
I belittle no one who doesn't have it coming.
That's settled. Now you can stop trying to pin me down with things that i'm not.[/QUOTE]
Just stop posting shit that makes you look like a douche???
I haven't seen you post anything helpful or remotely interesting since you've been back.
I'd hate to be a politician. I hate liars. I could only ever be scientific. I don't like to think I'm putting words in your mouth. You can have any opinions you want but on a drug discussion forum, it should be acceptable for someone to ask about using Heroin without people telling them it's "illogical". It's illogical to use any drug but we do it anyway, so it's just redundant.
Anyhow, it doesn't really matter.
LasGunz, there are vendors that you can buy opiates from online that I've used a few times with success, it's AMAZING what you can get online. Seriously. If you are into that sort of thing I can send you a PM.
[QUOTE=Dan The Man;21594873]I'd hate to be a politician. I hate liars. I could only ever be scientific. I don't like to think I'm putting words in your mouth. You can have any opinions you want but on a drug discussion forum, it should be acceptable for someone to ask about using Heroin without people telling them it's "illogical". It's illogical to use any drug but we do it anyway, so it's just redundant.
Anyhow, it doesn't really matter.
LasGunz, there are vendors that you can buy opiates from online that I've used a few times with success, it's AMAZING what you can get online. Seriously. If you are into that sort of thing I can send you a PM.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't mind ordering stuff online it's just getting it delivered to my house isn't a great idea cause my parents are really nosey and even if they don't open it before me they'll want to know what it is.
And I can't afford a P.O Box (and as far as I'm aware most places don't ship to P.O Boxes) on student/EMA funding :(
wow silverhammer can you please get the fuck out with your fascist views on drug use. Regardless of whether or not you don't want to try it - doesn't mean i'm not going to try it. So instead of just shitting on my thread and offering nothing more that you're ignorant, un wanted opinion can you either offer some advice relevent to the topic, or gtfo.
Nobody gives a fuck if you think harder drugs are bad, or if you don't see the logic in it. And i don't give a fuck if your uncles don't have enough will power to only try a drug once. Maybe if lack if willpower is something that runs in your family, YOU should stay away from H.
And no, i don't plan to use a needle.
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[QUOTE=SilverHammer;21594520]Thizz isn't really my cup of tea but I can see the fun in it and Xanax is just a lame way to waste your life. Why are you trying to tell me what this forum is about? I used to moderate it.[/QUOTE]
This forum is here to prevent harm and offer advice to potential and recreational drug users. There's a reason you don't moderate here anymore - you fucking suck at it on so many levels.
How about instead of "DRUGS ARE BAD MKAY" you give some advice on how to reduce or prevent harm.
Take a look at [url]www.bluelight.ru[/url] and maybe you'll understand
Ok I guess i'll stop trying to help you. Go get your fucking fix.
Stop trying to help me? Jesus christ if your mom tells you smoking weed is bad are you gonna stop?
No, you're gonna do it anyway.
Maybe what your mom should do is inform you about the drug, and answer any questions you have with actual evidence based off of it.
I don't really condone doing it but if you must, then make sure to limit yourself. My neighbor died of an OD. Be safe with it.
i only want to do it once
[QUOTE=SilverHammer;21595372]Ok I guess i'll stop trying to help you. Go get your fucking fix.[/QUOTE]
you're a complete idiot man. we're all about risk minimisation here, of course we shouldn't be doing any drugs (apart from weed of course) due to health reasons, there are just many many drugs where the benefits greatly outweigh the health risks. a few times now you've went on about the fact that some stupid mis-informed and generally ignorant people in your family shot it up and fucked their respective lives up, but that's completely irrelevant to stayblazed, as well as most of the community here.
sure, i respect the fact that you don't want to see it fuck up the life of somebody else you know, but i don't appreciate your stigmatising just because you assume anybody who wants to try it out is going to be as irresponsible as the people you've known.
[QUOTE=StayBlazed420;21595538]i only want to do it once[/QUOTE]
A few of my friend snort the powder. They said its like doing oc. I haven't touched it myself. I would suggest that.
There are many people who do H once, it's hardly unheard of. My mum has admitted to doing it once. I suggest "chasing the dragon" (smoking it) or maybe snorting it. It's definitely worth trying.
Heroin? Not with a bargepole, mate.
[QUOTE=Dan The Man;21597131]There are many people who do H once, it's hardly unheard of. [/QUOTE]
It's really not that hard to do it only once. You have to promise to yourself that you won't touch it again though, because it is WAY to easy to use it frequently
[QUOTE=Dan The Man;21597131]There are many people who do H once, it's hardly unheard of.[/QUOTE]
It's just like playing with fire or sex. If you want to take the risk, know what a possible result could be. Foodstuffs tried H I believe, I remember saying the same thing to him. I dunno if I'd want to take the risk given my record on addiction.
I'd probably want to try H right before I die.
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[QUOTE=Qwerty?;21603864]It's really not that hard to do it only once. You have to promise to yourself that you won't touch it again though, because it is WAY to easy to use it frequently[/QUOTE]
Yea, I can't just put drugs down like that, i'd have to cut my connections with the dealer.
Yeah I smoked a little off of tin foil, it was nothing special really, it just made me forget about everything (including my problems, I could see why people get into it) and I actually had no thoughts. I felt good but it was boring psychologically. I don't think I'm gonna do it again any time soon.
No thoughts sounds horrible.
I've had a large shot of morphine in hospital for extreme pain, and it was pretty nice. It's the illegal activity people have to get involved in and the financial difficulties that are worrying, plus the loss of control.
It's understandable that people who've seen their friends or relatives have a hard time get scared for anyone who might try opiates. Some people just have to try stuff though. A friend I had when younger fell when high and became a paraplegic, but another person I knew fell when rock climbing and died. Who's to say which kind of risky behaviour is the worst? Fighting in the army, for example, is a more socially acceptable form of risk taking - but the risk of death is still there.
Just my opinion, of course.
Isn't heroin very safe drug to get addicted to?
I mean, many cultures used heroin/opiates, and drug it's self doesn't damage body/brains.
Me personaly, would like to try a line of H, just to get feel for it.
Yeah, Heroin is chronically very safe. That is to say, if you did it every day for 40 years under controlled conditions, you'd be in just as good health as if you hadn't. The main dangers are bowel cancer due to the constipation but there are many things you can do to avoid this.
Also VNL, it's not "no thoughts" in an empty way. It's more "no worries". I find opiate highs to be quite psychadelic. This may sound odd to those who've never experienced it, but it's almost as if you're dreaming but not. You sorta have dreams that are quite vivid but you're still awake. This is the time where I forget to breathe normally but it's also incredibly lush.
Rock climbing etc. is socially acceptable because it's not hedonistic. Heroin use is pure and simple hedonism and people see hedonism as the devil when in reality that's totally unfair. Fighting in the army is not a fair comparison though as I believe that's a noble thing to do. Heroin use is not noble at all but it's unfair to think that Heroin addicts are less important. They're really important and I totally sympathise with their addictions, I hope I can never empathise though.
[QUOTE=Dan The Man;21618623]
Also VNL, it's not "no thoughts" in an empty way. It's more "no worries". I find opiate highs to be quite psychadelic. This may sound odd to those who've never experienced it, but it's almost as if you're dreaming but not. You sorta have dreams that are quite vivid but you're still awake. This is the time where I forget to breathe normally but it's also incredibly lush.
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This is why I want to try a strong opiate. That sounds amazing to me; I love lucid dreaming but it's very hard to induce.
I've lucid dreamt before but it's not really the same. You don't control the dreams as such. The dreams just get projected and you just watch it in awe. It's just as amazing as lucid dreaming, but don't expect to act out sexual fantasies or anything.
[QUOTE=StayBlazed420;21595538]i only want to do it once[/QUOTE]
All I can say to this is, "Famous last words..."
Let's be honest. If he's trying Heroin he's probably aware of the addictiveness. I actually have a lot of faith that StayBlazed would only touch it once. Although he's pretty aggressive he's a really responsible user of drugs and doesn't talk bullshit. I trust him to take it once more than I'd trust myself, which is partly why I don't think I'll do it for a long while, if ever.
[QUOTE=Dan The Man;21619709]I actually have a lot of faith that StayBlazed would only touch it once.[/QUOTE]
Until that actually happens, I don't...
Does it make you feel really hot and nauseous? I've had that with Kratom and Oxys, though I didn't when I had morphine in a hospital.
Nausea just means you took too much. It's very hard to get the opiate dosage correct. Franz, if you didn't already know, laying on your back completely removes opiate nausea after about 2 minutes. This is invaluable for enjoying opiates.
I'm not gonna lie. I wanna try heroin.
Good things about heroin:
Feels good
Bang for your buck for single time users
Bad:
Painful and sometimes impossible withdrawal
Dangerous risk of collapsed veins for IV users
Most addictive drug on the market currently according to tests and statistics
Chance of infection for IV users
Dangerous street cuts can be harmful or even deadly in short or long time use
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[QUOTE=Dan The Man;21621411]Nausea just means you took too much. It's very hard to get the opiate dosage correct. Franz, if you didn't already know, laying on your back completely removes opiate nausea after about 2 minutes. This is invaluable for enjoying opiates.[/QUOTE]
And if you black out or vomit, you drown with heavy usage!
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