[QUOTE=SilverHammer;21594520]Thizz isn't really my cup of tea but I can see the fun in it and Xanax is just a lame way to waste your life. Why are you trying to tell me what this forum is about? I used to moderate it.[/QUOTE]
For a Pothead you sure have a closed mind.
[QUOTE=FreakyMe;21623051]
And if you black out or vomit, you drown with heavy usage![/QUOTE]
wut
I think he means if you black out [I]and [/I]vomit. You definitely can asphyxiate on your own vomit.
[QUOTE=Dan The Man;21623287]wut[/QUOTE]
Lying on your back under the influence of anything that can cause blacking out, nausea, or a loss of motor skills is a bad idea because more people die from vomiting and then either drowning or dry drowning than you would believe.
I work in an ER so I am saying this from some experience. Usually when we get an alcohol related death it is because of that rather than alcohol saturation.
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[QUOTE=xxFoxxx;21623419]I think he means if you black out [I]and [/I]vomit. You definitely can asphyxiate on your own vomit.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I worded that poorly.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=FreakyMe;21623433]Lying on your back under the influence of anything that can cause blacking out, nausea, or a loss of motor skills is a bad idea because more people die from vomiting and then either drowning or dry drowning than you would believe.
I work in an ER so I am saying this from some experience. Usually when we get an alcohol related death it is because of that rather than alcohol saturation.
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Yes, I worded that poorly.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Well, you didn't word it poorly, you just didn't word it correctly. Also, it's ridiculous to suggest aspiration is the reason people die on opiates. People die on opiates from respiratory depression in nearly all cases. Lying on your back stops the mechanism that causes the nausea so you don't vomit in this position anyway. Do opiates even suppress the gag reflex?
Anyhow, my main point is unless you plan to do a stupid amount of opiates that's going to render you unconscious, (which is silly, as you won't enjoy it) then lying on your back is a perfectly reasonable way to avoid nausea.
Dan you make heroin sound like pot saying it's safe.
It gets blown out of proportion
[QUOTE=Dan The Man;21618623]Yeah, Heroin is chronically very safe. That is to say, if you did it every day for 40 years under controlled conditions, you'd be in just as good health as if you hadn't. The main dangers are bowel cancer due to the constipation but there are many things you can do to avoid this.[/QUOTE]
Are you sure? I don't know a whole lot about very long term opiate addiction, but I don't see how you can be just as healthy as if you didn't do it
I wouldn't mind trying it one day, but it'll only be once and if I don't ever get the chance, then I won't be particularly bothered.
I wouldn't advise you to do it. My mate was addicted when he was 14, he says it's not worth it. The effects aren't worth the risk.
But if you don't care about possibly ruining your life, it's alright. Just don't get addicted.
[QUOTE=Dan The Man;21623588]Well, you didn't word it poorly, you just didn't word it correctly. Also, it's ridiculous to suggest aspiration is the reason people die on opiates. People die on opiates from respiratory depression in nearly all cases. Lying on your back stops the mechanism that causes the nausea so you don't vomit in this position anyway. Do opiates even suppress the gag reflex?
Anyhow, my main point is unless you plan to do a stupid amount of opiates that's going to render you unconscious, (which is silly, as you won't enjoy it) then lying on your back is a perfectly reasonable way to avoid nausea.[/QUOTE]
Don't opiates just suppress couch reflex?
[QUOTE=kobilica;21626888]Don't opiates just suppress couch reflex?[/QUOTE]
Just be in a room without couches at all and you won't be able to have the couch reflex.
In all seriousness, opiates in large doses suppress your respiratory system, so yes.
[QUOTE=Luke510;21624853]Dan you make heroin sound like pot saying it's safe.[/QUOTE]
It is safe if you don't have an addictive personality. I've taken plenty of highly addictive drugs and I don't have any drive to continuously use them. And even if you get addicted, the main concerns are financial stability and not increasing your dosage.
my mum spent her teenage life and early 20's constantly nodding out
she had a bit of a mental time with it, some bad times sure but overall she regrets none of it
if you don't want to inject or shove a suppository up your ass, you can always chase the dragon to avoid any nasty methods for getting it into your system
have fun
[QUOTE=franz;21638608]And even if you get addicted, the main concerns are financial stability and not increasing your dosage.[/QUOTE]
It's just not worth it, i've been addicted to some heavy drugs before, and it really just makes you a zombie because the most pressing issue in your life is to get more money to get more drugs,that need for the drugs is just so great that your family and friends aren't really important anymore and you just see them as a source of income for your drug habit. It really fucks up relationships(family won't trust you anymore, friends will think of you differently, etc) and can distract you from school/work, makes you do some pretty fucked up shit to get it. Which can lead to being arrested or other negative consequences.Addiction isn't fun man. I fucked up everything in my life for a while for what? to get high? to get a rush? it's not fucking worth it on any level man. I'm content with sticking to weed and occasionally a few pills.
[QUOTE=Dan The Man;21623588]Well, you didn't word it poorly, you just didn't word it correctly. Also, it's ridiculous to suggest aspiration is the reason people die on opiates. People die on opiates from respiratory depression in nearly all cases. Lying on your back stops the mechanism that causes the nausea so you don't vomit in this position anyway. Do opiates even suppress the gag reflex?
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Uh no. Lying on your back is how you will kill yourself on heroin. You're supposed to lie on your side so if you do vomit you will not choke on it.
[QUOTE=Luke510;21638878]It's just not worth it, i've been addicted to some heavy drugs before, and it really just makes you a zombie because the most pressing issue in your life is to get more money to get more drugs,that need for the drugs is just so great that your family and friends aren't really important anymore and you just see them as a source of income for your drug habit. It really fucks up relationships(family won't trust you anymore, friends will think of you differently, etc) and can distract you from school/work, makes you do some pretty fucked up shit to get it. Which can lead to being arrested or other negative consequences.Addiction isn't fun man. I fucked up everything in my life for a while for what? to get high? to get a rush? it's not fucking worth it on any level man. I'm content with sticking to weed and occasionally a few pills.[/QUOTE]
What kind of pills?
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[QUOTE=GerardV2;21639271]Uh no. Lying on your back is how you will kill yourself on heroin. You're supposed to lie on your side so if you do vomit you will not choke on it.[/QUOTE]
Truest thing I've ever seen you say.
Personally not for me, it can fuck you up and I'm not an opiate fan, I love my molly/etc. Still, go for it, but definitely tell us what it was like!
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[QUOTE=xxFoxxx;21639489]What kind of pills?[/QUOTE]
I'd assume E.
Even E can be mentally (though not physically) addictive, as almost any drug can. Even through using it 1/2 times a week, it has changed the way my friends look at me, and there have been times when I've forced myself to take a break through fear of becoming addicted, the idea of not being able to go out without it. Gotta be seriously careful.
I can't wait to try heroin.
In all seriousness I think I'd become a junkie.
[QUOTE=GerardV2;21639271]Uh no. Lying on your back is how you will kill yourself on heroin. You're supposed to lie on your side so if you do vomit you will not choke on it.[/QUOTE]
First-aid 101. Intoxicated/unconscious people on their side with their arms and legs supporting them.
Getting addicted to E is one of the worst addictions for your brains. And oh PCP.
[QUOTE=HiddenMyst;21644166]First-aid 101. Intoxicated/unconscious people on their side with their arms and legs supporting them.[/QUOTE]
Lifeguard training calls this the recovery position
[QUOTE=Aaronn;21646946]Lifeguard training calls this the recovery position[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I couldn't remember the proper name (it's been 4 years since I learnt how to do all my first-aid stuff).
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Guys, unless you take a fucking huge amount of Heroin, you won't be vomiting straight away. Lying on your back is the only way you'll enjoy a medium dose of an opiate. It's just the truth. You can either spend the experience with fairly intense Nausea just wanting it to end on your side or you can lay on your back and have a wonderful time. On these dosages you won't be fucked enough to not know if you're gonna puke, so you can just get up and do your business.
[QUOTE=kobilica;21646739]Getting addicted to E is one of the worst addictions for your brains.[/QUOTE]
Yea, imagine popping everyday(or other day) for about a month, and imagine the hangover for months just feeling out of it and depressed, start hearing shit, seeing shit. I used to hear my mom screaming at me even when she wasn't home.... E is a drug that should be respected, but it looks so harmless in those little pills haha. But I don't believe damage is permanent just because I've done it and I feel pretty normal now.
[QUOTE=Luke510;21655605]Yea, imagine popping everyday(or other day) for about a month, and imagine the hangover for months just feeling out of it and depressed, start hearing shit, seeing shit. I used to hear my mom screaming at me even when she wasn't home.... E is a drug that should be respected, but it looks so harmless in those little pills haha. But I don't believe damage is permanent just because I've done it and I feel pretty normal now.[/QUOTE]
What kind of pills do you take now? Oxys, Xanax, Tabs? wut
I don't think I'll try heroin, but I definitely want to try opium
[QUOTE=xxFoxxx;21655790]What kind of pills do you take now? Oxys, Xanax, Tabs? wut[/QUOTE]
E, but i've fucked with oxys and vicodin in the past.
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