Obviously vinyl is better but it's not exactly portable.
I can notice the difference in a blind test. To me FLAC has more of a pulse and atmosphere which I really enjoy but that's just me.
[QUOTE=Seohyun;30918226]Would you hear a difference between flac and mp3 with really expensive audio equipment?[/QUOTE]
You would have to have expensive equipment to hear the difference between a 320 and FLAC, and even then, being able to actually tell which is which is a whole different story.
yeah I can hear the difference on my system but can't tell which is which
[QUOTE=killerteacup;30930704]Obviously vinyl is better but it's not exactly portable.[/QUOTE]
Um no vinyl isn't "obviously" better, do you have anything to back that up besides it being cool and hip to be into these days? An analogue format will always be more inaccurate than a digital one, and if you want 24khz/128bit audio there's always DVD audio and SACD.
analogue is less prone to catastrophic errors if that counts for anything
[QUOTE=Tabarnaco;30932370]Um no vinyl isn't "obviously" better, do you have anything to back that up besides it being cool and hip to be into these days?[/QUOTE]
this is what sanius was talking about
and the fact that you can go WIKE WIKE WIKE and play it backwards makes it better
Analogue has no sampling rates to speak of. So yes, vinyl is[i]technically[/i] of higher quality, but only if the record is brand new and free of any dirt and dust. Vinyl wears down over time as well, so really both viewpoints are correct.
The inaccuracies in vinyl are a result of wear or the manufacturing, but theoretically speaking, analogue is always "higher quality."
[QUOTE=Tabarnaco;30932370]Um no vinyl isn't "obviously" better, do you have anything to back that up besides it being cool and hip to be into these days? An analogue format will always be more inaccurate than a digital one, and if you want 24khz/128bit audio there's always DVD audio and SACD.[/QUOTE]
Analogue format sounds a lot rawer to me. Digital is great but I love analogue formats despite the fact that it's more inaccurate.
Anyway I have a feeling noone is going to come to an agreement about this though
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;30931881]yeah I can hear the difference on my system but can't tell which is which[/QUOTE]
Which is exactly why it's pointless to download FLAC unless you're doing it for archival purposes (i.e: being able to transcode to whatever format you want to in the future without encoding from one lossy format to another lossy format, which is a bad thing to do)
If someone can't identify which is which with significant accuracy, there's obviously not enough of an audible difference between the two formats for them to be basing their preference on anything other than the [i]idea[/i] of FLAC. If someone can't even tell which is which, they can't tell that they like how FLAC sounds better ;)
[QUOTE=Z3r0747;30932600]Analogue has no sampling rates to speak of. So yes, vinyl is[i]technically[/i] of higher quality, but only if the record is brand new and free of any dirt and dust. Vinyl wears down over time as well, so really both viewpoints are correct.
The inaccuracies in vinyl are a result of wear or the manufacturing, but theoretically speaking, analogue is always "higher quality."[/QUOTE]
Laser Turntable beats all formats.
You're right about the wears down over time, but CDs won't sound as good 40 years after pressing.
I have albums 50+ old that sound [I]Miles[/I] better than the digital remaster. :)
Maybe because the digital remaster you have is shit.
[QUOTE=Tabarnaco;30939162]Maybe because the digital remaster you have is shit.[/QUOTE]
Not really.
If I could record some for you, I would. Opens up the sound a whole lot more.
Guys noone is going to reach an agreement about this, just saying.
Yes they will.
CD is good, but it'll die out due to digital being so easy to manufacture in different ways.
Vinyl will never die because it is heartless to not love the format. :)
But Vinyl can't be exported to digital files without losing the quality right?
[QUOTE=kitteh-nator;30945280]But Vinyl can't be exported to digital files without losing the quality right?[/QUOTE]
No because it's not a digital format.
[editline]6th July 2011[/editline]
But high end turntables with high end equipment get real close.
But CD's can be ripped straight to FLAC, so wouldn't that make them easier to use, thus better?
[QUOTE=kitteh-nator;30948381]But CD's can be ripped straight to FLAC, so wouldn't that make them easier to use, thus better?[/QUOTE]
Depends what you enjoy/care about more.
Do I enjoy playing CDs? No.
[editline]6th July 2011[/editline]
Scrolling my music folder and dragging an album over then starting it is a lot less hassle.
That's what digital is about. "Less hassle only"
But since when do I consider playing music, hassle?
[QUOTE=Tabarnaco;30932370]Um no vinyl isn't "obviously" better, do you have anything to back that up besides it being cool and hip to be into these days? An analogue format will always be more inaccurate than a digital one, and if you want 24khz/128bit audio there's always DVD audio and SACD.[/QUOTE]
maybe you're not aware but people don't listen to music to masturbate over digital fidelity. vinyl sounds warmer and is more pleasant
again you're going out of your way to be offensive
Doriol, you're the best. :)
i masturbate over digital infidelity
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kw4_SwP1hA[/media]
check it out she makes beats using a bit crusher
how the fuck does she do that
AK'z not everyone is going to agree with you about cd vs vinyl
I mean I do but not everyone will.
[QUOTE=killerteacup;30958963]AK'z not everyone is going to agree with you about cd vs vinyl
I mean I do but not everyone will.[/QUOTE]
Obviously. I did say in the post that it was a personal thing.
I asked myself if I enjoyed it, I didn't mock.
[QUOTE=AK'z;30960842]Obviously. I did say in the post that it was a personal thing.
I asked myself if I enjoyed it, I didn't mock.[/QUOTE]
o
i mistook thee
[QUOTE=pie_is_good;30906986]lol at plebeians who don't know anything about FLAC.
Seriously if you truly love your music you'll listen to FLACs or else the demon that is rotational velocidensity will destroy it like it did with most of my favourite music.[/QUOTE]
What's your source for this?
[QUOTE=Caboose866;30962688]What's your source for this?[/QUOTE]
Don't listen to pie, I think he's gone mad. Last time we had this discussion he posted a graph comparing how much heart vinyl had against cd. It was awesome when he was sane. :)
[QUOTE=AK'z;30962785]Don't listen to pie, I think he's gone mad. Last time we had this discussion he posted a graph comparing how much heart vinyl had against cd. It was awesome when he was sane. :)[/QUOTE]
Oh I'm not mad at all. I'm very much so quite sane alot and that graph I think is something that had a lot of research put into it so
[editline]7th July 2011[/editline]
see I still have the graph with me
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/brWnA.jpg[/IMG]
Thanks pie, I think I fully understand it now.
[QUOTE=AK'z;30962785]Don't listen to pie, I think he's gone mad. Last time we had this discussion he posted a graph comparing how much heart vinyl had against cd. It was awesome when he was sane. :)[/QUOTE]I am sitting in a Burger King with pie right now. I can assure you, he is quite sane. We are just sittig here, quietly discussing the intricacies of quantum mechanics. He stood up thirteen minutes ago and hurled his feces at the cashier. Again, sir, he is QUITE sane.
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