Not even sure if I wanna go to uni. Academia sucks balls and the only academic things I'm interested in are sciences, which I wouldn't want a career in because I'd probably end up bored as fuck by the scientific process and all of the sitting around.
Methinks fireman is my goal. Also, what kind of shit do you need to do to become an electrician?
go to uni, be fireman. easy.
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a tertiary education isn't needed in life, but it's always going to be something you can fall back on if your favoured career choice falls through.
it doesn't have to be accurate to the decimal, I was just curious
pm it to me
[QUOTE=DogGunn;31641385]Melbourne is the only victorian uni that does not accept people straight into law. as for getting in with under 90, what course? environmental science or something?[/quote]
Aha, harsh. I'm doing the same thing as Contag and mlisen. The same thing that all other people who scored 90+ on their ENTERs did if they want to do arts. Contag also got in with an ENTER score under 90. Also, you held up Melbourne Uni as the hardest uni to get into, and I'm going there, so it would make sense for me to use it as an example. It would also make sense to use Melbourne Uni as the example for law school, because it's the most prestigious in Victoria. It's also the only law degree that can be transferred into the US. I've heard of universities allowing people to do law degrees straight after VCE, but not get into law school (which is what I'm talking about). For the record, I'm taking law subjects now and will be majoring in a law subject next year when I get to choose my major.
Edit: Just to clarify, I'm doing the exact same thing that all other people who got 90+ scores do (if they're doing artss); I'm not in, like, a special program or something. Seeing as arts covers law, I can go straight on to major in law when I got below 90 for my ENTER. I could have also gotten into science or whatever if that's what I had wanted to do. My point is that you can get into Melbourne with an ENTER of below 90.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;31641385]i'm studying commerce / business based course at monash.
don't forget if first year is easy, everyone else is going to do well too. once again, it's not as easy as you think. it's 100 students competing for 3 positions. you've either got to be the creme de la creme or just very lucky. particularity if you want to get into melbourne.[/quote]
I didn't say it was easy, period. It's difficult for a lot of people, and a shittonne dropped out after six or so weeks.
What are you talking about RE: '3 positions'? Do you mean the amount of people trying to get into Melbourne from Monash?
i didn't mean that to be taken as an insult. my impression was that the lowest enter requirement for melbourne was 85ish and was environmental science.
ahhh the good old bullshit fed melbourne uni student. it's prestigeous for all the wrong reasons. it's the only university in the state that offers the JD law course, which is as you said transferrable to america, however, there is no way you would pass a bar exam without taking another year worth of courses in the states. even if you got your law degree at monash, you can still practice law overseas after a bit more study in the us.
how the hell are you majoring in law in the second year? i thought law at melbourne was only post grad? i mean you could do law subjects, but that doesn't make it a law course, nor is it part of the pathway to law at melbourne.
as for the 3 positions, it was the number of positions offer to join the arts course in total from other victorian universities.
I got 84.00 and I didn't even try. Probably due to doing the two hard maths and getting a 40 and 42 in each. Got me into a kind of scholarship program which helps a bit but more than anything looks better on a resume.
My cousin went to a Grammar school and got a 99.something. Pretty much needed it to get into the Melbourne Uni Medicine course though. Reckon you could transfer into a medical degree if you didn't get that kind of score at Melbourne?
[QUOTE=DogGunn;31641570]i didn't mean that to be taken as an insult. my impression was that the lowest enter requirement for melbourne was 85ish and was environmental science.
ahhh the good old bullshit fed melbourne uni student. it's prestigeous for all the wrong reasons. it's the only university in the state that offers the JD law course, which is as you said transferrable to america, however, there is no way you would pass a bar exam without taking another year worth of courses in the states. even if you got your law degree at monash, you can still practice law overseas after a bit more study in the us.
how the hell are you majoring in law in the second year? i thought law at melbourne was only post grad? i mean you could do law subjects, but that doesn't make it a law course, nor is it part of the pathway to law at melbourne.
as for the 3 positions, it was the number of positions offer to join the arts course in total from other victorian universities.[/QUOTE]
Pro-tip: You don't have to get the ENTER scores they 'require' to get in, which is the point I've been making this entire time.
As for all that stuff about it being prestigious, I'm not saying it's better than other universities. I am saying it's the most prestigious, which it arguably is. There's a difference between the two. I am well aware of the bullshit around Melbourne Uni, and I certainly don't agree with it. I'm the first to criticize the ridiculous Melbourne Model, and I recognize the shortcomings of my own school. But can this be civil? Can I make my points without you saying that I'm 'bullshit fed', thanks?
I can major in a law subject, which is what I said. You're right, though, that that doesn't make it a law course, nor a part of the pathway.
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[QUOTE=Devodiere;31641641]
My cousin went to a Grammar school and got a 99.something. Pretty much needed it to get into the Melbourne Uni Medicine course though. Reckon you could transfer into a medical degree if you didn't get that kind of score at Melbourne?[/QUOTE]
It's possible, but it would be very difficult; it's the hardest to get into.
the term they use is clearly in, but it's also the enter score that people say are needed to "get in" to the course. it's not the min - but you have to be lucky to get into a course below the required amount.
I only got 42.8 ATAR but I got into the course that I wanted at the time. They advertised it as you needing a 75 ATAR but I didn't even get that. But I did well in biology and I got into a science course. Some courses have only specific requirements to get into, for example a 25study score in English is a general requirement for most courses.
[QUOTE=Hana-San;31643030]I only got 42.8 ATAR but I got into the course that I wanted at the time. They advertised it as you needing a 75 ATAR but I didn't even get that. But I did well in biology and I got into a science course. Some courses have only specific requirements to get into, for example a 25study score in English is a general requirement for most courses.[/QUOTE]I hope this works for me, I want to go to a university in a different state however so I don't know how that changes things.
The clearly-in is the required ATAR for first round offers provided they get as many applicants as expected (usually the same amount or more than the year before). But if fewer people apply then it is easier to get in with a lower score. My friend got into Arts with an 88 I believe, which was 01.00 below the clearly in for Melbourne Arts. If I didn't have SEAS and Access Melbourne I probably still would have gotten in either in first or second round as I was only about 02.50 below.
With Biomed you can't get in with anything lower than the clearly in in first round because it's such a highly sought after course. However I think you can go into Medical Science or something without the higher ATAR and move across but I'm not totally sure.
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[QUOTE=Pat.Lithium;31643101]I hope this works for me, I want to go to a university in a different state however so I don't know how that changes things.[/QUOTE]
Look it up and/or ask your careers advisor. My girlfriend wants to do a journalism course in NSW but it doesn't have an equivalent score or prerequisites.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;31641776]the term they use is clearly in, but it's also the enter score that people say are needed to "get in" to the course. it's not the min - but you have to be lucky to get into a course below the required amount.[/QUOTE]
I know what the term is.
You don't necessarily have to be lucky; you can be smart and find other ways.
But I don't want to re-hash everything.
I do hear what you're saying, though. And I agree sometimes it's easier just to do well in year 12.
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[QUOTE=Mlisen14;31643126]The clearly-in is the required ATAR for first round offers provided they get as many applicants as expected (usually the same amount or more than the year before). But if fewer people apply then it is easier to get in with a lower score. My friend got into Arts with an 88 I believe, which was 01.00 below the clearly in for Melbourne Arts. If I didn't have SEAS and Access Melbourne I probably still would have gotten in either in first or second round as I was only about 02.50 below.
[/QUOTE]
Are you in Melbourne via the Access Melbourne?
Edit: Read properly, Jennifer.
There are so many things you can apply for with SEAS; they're bound to apply to most people.
[QUOTE=devotchkade;31643154]I know what the term is.
You don't necessarily have to be lucky; you can be smart and find other ways. [/quote]
oh, it really comes down to luck. you have very limited control. it's all luck based on what other people in your year decide to do. seas and other entry methods can only help a limited amount.
honestly i hate this topic. the best thing is to do your best at school. the better you go, the less trouble you're going to have getting into your desired course.
[QUOTE=devotchkade;31643154]
Are you in Melbourne via the Access Melbourne?
Edit: Read properly, Jennifer.
.[/QUOTE]
Yes and what?
[QUOTE=Mlisen14;31643275]Yes and what?[/QUOTE]
I added that edit because I re-read the bit I had quoted and realized you'd answered my question (I'm pretty tired right now).
[QUOTE=DogGunn;31641570]i didn't mean that to be taken as an insult. my impression was that the lowest enter requirement for melbourne was 85ish and was environmental science.
ahhh the good old bullshit fed melbourne uni student. it's prestigeous for all the wrong reasons. it's the only university in the state that offers the JD law course, which is as you said transferrable to america, however, there is no way you would pass a bar exam without taking another year worth of courses in the states. even if you got your law degree at monash, you can still practice law overseas after a bit more study in the us.
how the hell are you majoring in law in the second year? i thought law at melbourne was only post grad? i mean you could do law subjects, but that doesn't make it a law course, nor is it part of the pathway to law at melbourne.
as for the 3 positions, it was the number of positions offer to join the arts course in total from other victorian universities.[/QUOTE]
To be honest, I feel a humanities course should be prerequisite to doing an LLB.
Less dickhead lawyers, or at least more nuanced dickhead lawyers that way.
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Year 12: rote education bullshit
University: not rote education bullshit (well of course yes, but with a hefty component of critical thinking).
[QUOTE=Contag;31643517]
Year 12: rote education bullshit
University: not rote education bullshit (well of course yes, but with a hefty component of critical thinking).[/QUOTE]
Depends what course you do.
But yes, that's what I was getting at. People who are terrible at rote learning may very well do much better in university. The high school and university systems tend to favour different types of learning.
Damn I missed my 5000th post.
[QUOTE=devotchkade;31641695]Pro-tip: You don't have to get the ENTER scores they 'require' to get in, which is the point I've been making this entire time.
As for all that stuff about it being prestigious, I'm not saying it's better than other universities. I am saying it's the most prestigious, which it arguably is. There's a difference between the two. I am well aware of the bullshit around Melbourne Uni, and I certainly don't agree with it. I'm the first to criticize the ridiculous Melbourne Model, and I recognize the shortcomings of my own school. But can this be civil? Can I make my points without you saying that I'm 'bullshit fed', thanks?
I can major in a law subject, which is what I said. You're right, though, that that doesn't make it a law course, nor a part of the pathway.
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It's possible, but it would be very difficult; it's the hardest to get into.[/QUOTE]
Because what this world needs is another lawyer.
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oh and people who think biomed at melbourne is good? I've got 3 mates doing it who all hate it, they say it shit and they're transferring to monash.
What are their complaints?
[QUOTE=Mlisen14;31643126]Look it up and/or ask your careers advisor. My girlfriend wants to do a journalism course in NSW but it doesn't have an equivalent score or prerequisites.[/QUOTE]I heard its some what easy to get into the game design course at QUT because I have some friends who are doing it. After my trials I'll talk to my careers advisor about it.
[QUOTE=Pat.Lithium;31644414]I heard its some what easy to get into the game design course at QUT because I have some friends who are doing it. After my trials I'll talk to my careers advisor about it.[/QUOTE]
Games design isn't a very good qualification. Do software engineering or something similar.
the moment when your dad hands you a letter from victoria police...
[QUOTE=DogGunn;31645044]the moment when your dad hands you a letter from victoria police...[/QUOTE]
What happened?
[QUOTE=DogGunn;31645044]the moment when your dad hands you a letter from victoria police...[/QUOTE]
do tell
[QUOTE=hehe;31644119]
oh and people who think biomed at melbourne is good? I've got 3 mates doing it who all hate it, they say it shit and they're transferring to monash.[/QUOTE]
They probably hate it because they can't keep up with it. I know people doing it who say it's the best thing they've done in their lives. The Monash one isn't any better or even that different. A local at my cafe is doing 3rd year Med at Monash and is completely over it.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;31645044]the moment when your dad hands you a letter from victoria police...[/QUOTE]
you're being like mizzy (that was her name right)
at first glance, i thought it was a speeding fine. heart sank then.
but then i read it.
[code]A motor vehicle registered (Registration YCIXXX), 2010 Holden Cruze to you has been involved in an incident on 17/07/11. You need to contact the Brunswick Police Station, as soon as possible. [/code]
At first I was angry for my dad not reading it and giving it to me. My car's rego is YCHXXX and is a Ford Focus, but then we both got confusion. It was super effective.
That car, which is registered to us, has been in Queensland since April, and has not been down to Melbourne. WHAT.
what the ferk is the vic popo on about? incident in brunswick, wut?
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[QUOTE=Dppdy;31645295]you're being like mizzy (that was her name right)[/QUOTE]
and what's that like?
[QUOTE=DogGunn;31645442]
and what's that like?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DogGunn;31645044]the moment when your dad hands you a letter from victoria police...[/QUOTE]
this
i strive to be vague.
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