Can you explain why you agree with what Max Brenner does?
[QUOTE=Contag;32802529]I think you mean Myanmar, but I presume the old government were corrupt as shit too.[/QUOTE]
I don't really mean anything - I just thought of some random country.
[QUOTE=Contag;32802529]You seem to have a huge hard-on either for private enterprise or israel, I'm trying to figure out which it is.[/QUOTE]
I just don't like protests that impact people entering or leaving businesses or buildings - and it seems to be that any protest Students for Palestine get involved in, they do that stupid type of shit.
[QUOTE=Contag;32802579]I thought you were referring to the ability of citizens to protest and revolt as part of their social contract and citizenship. Not what the state deigns to legislatively provide them.[/QUOTE]
Yep. Given that we have relatively unrestricted free speech, protesting is a significant way someone can exercise their citizenship.
I don't see how the fact that we only have five entrenched rights that don't encompass protesting in matters this context.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;32802581]I just don't like protests that impact people entering or leaving businesses or buildings - and it seems to be that any protest Students for Palestine get involved in, they do that stupid type of shit.[/QUOTE]
Is there a big extreme-left union presence on campus in Monash?
Being at Melbourne Uni means our view is probably distorted, I've never seen that happen before, and don't think there are [I]too[/I] many over here.
[QUOTE=devotchkade;32802547]It's also against the point that they might have done something illegal at some point. Yeah, they're scum, but they still have a right to protest. If they're blockading the business, though, then that's out of line for sure.[/QUOTE]
What's against the point? Regardless, they shouldn't have the privilege to protest if they keep abusing it, which they are.
[QUOTE=devotchkade;32802547]Just because you disagree with them doesn't make them uneducated.[/quote]
It does if they have no idea what they're protesting about.
[editline]16th October 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Contag;32802600]Is there a big extreme-left union presence on campus in Monash?[/QUOTE]
There is, but from what my mates at Melbourne have told me, it's much larger there.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;32802581]
I just don't like protests that impact people entering or leaving businesses or buildings - and it seems to be that any protest Students for Palestine get involved in, they do that stupid type of shit.[/QUOTE]
But not all of them are from Students for Palestine, and they still have a valid point regardless (as I said previously, if they're stopping people from entering or leaving, then they can gtfo). But just because they're shitty human beings doesn't mean that their point is worthless too. You wouldn't (or shouldn't) disagree with the message of Occupy Wall Street just because some of the protesters are assholes who use the protest as a way of being ~totez radical~.
[editline]16th October 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=DogGunn;32802601]What's against the point? Regardless, they shouldn't have the privilege to protest if they keep abusing it, which they are.[/quote]
Or... they should be rightfully arrested, but not have that right taken away altogether.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;32802601]It does if they have no idea what they're protesting about.[/quote]
You haven't given any evidence for your repeated assertion that they're uneducated and don't know what they're talking about.
[QUOTE=devotchkade;32802644]But not all of them are from Students for Palestine, and they still have a valid point regardless (as I said previously, if they're stopping people from entering or leaving, then they can gtfo). But just because they're shitty human beings doesn't mean that their point is worthless too. You wouldn't (or shouldn't) disagree with the message of Occupy Wall Street just because some of the protesters are assholes who use the protest as a way of being ~totez radical~.[/QUOTE]
I agree with you for the most part - for instance they were protesting yesterday outside the State Library, which is a change from what they've recently been doing. But they've lost so much respect in my books because of their previous choice to protest in the methods they have that it really does detract from their point.
It's like if Tony Rabbit finally decided to come out in favour of the Carbon Tax - could you really take him seriously after his long campaign against it?
It isn't so much that we disagree with that they're saying or that we disagree with their right to protest, it's more that what they're protesting is fucking stupid. It's kinda like the occupy Wall Street copycat protests in Australia that have none of the issues the original are protesting about and just do it because they want a cause to protest about or just aren't happy with what they have even if it is pretty good.
If they were picketing a place because they used child slave labour, that might be an issue. If they're picketing them because they're loosely associated with a foreign issue that they oppose, then they're just retarded. Go protest outside K-mart for making use of cheap Chinese goods that support the Tibetan oppression.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;32802692]I agree with you for the most part - for instance they were protesting yesterday outside the State Library, which is a change from what they've recently been doing. But they've lost so much respect in my books because of their previous choice to protest in the methods they have that it really does detract from their point.[/QUOTE]
I feel like we're arguing the same thing, just in different ways.
Anyhow, let's just agree that the Socialist people are generally shitbags and leave it there.
[editline]16th October 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Devodiere;32802730]It isn't so much that we disagree with that they're saying or that we disagree with their right to protest, it's more that what they're protesting is fucking stupid. It's kinda like the occupy Wall Street copycat protests in Australia that have none of the issues the original are protesting about and just do it because they want a cause to protest about or just aren't happy with what they have even if it is pretty good.
[/QUOTE]
No argument here.
while you nerds were arguing over gay political shit, i was getting absolutely trashed dressed as clint eastwood.
bitties left right and centre
[editline]16th October 2011[/editline]
u all so jelly.
Anyone else get their trains replaced with buses for the rest of the month?
I hate the bus >.>
[QUOTE=hehe;32804397]while you nerds were arguing over gay political shit, i was getting absolutely trashed dressed as clint eastwood.
bitties left right and centre
[editline]16th October 2011[/editline]
u all so jelly.[/QUOTE]
The Good, the bad and the Ugly Clint Eastwood or Gran Torino Clint Eastwood?
This is very important
Fistful of Dollars Eastwood.
[editline]16th October 2011[/editline]
[img]http://sproutic.us/files/2009/12/fistful-of-dollars.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=hehe;32804626]Fistful of Dollars Eastwood.
[editline]16th October 2011[/editline]
[img]http://sproutic.us/files/2009/12/fistful-of-dollars.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
lol
Australia lost
[editline]16th October 2011[/editline]
life over for the next 4 years
lost what?
Semi final of the Rugby World Cup to New Zealand.
Good luck to you boys doing the HSC this week, if any of you will be doing it that is.
I do that shit next year, I'm already worried.
That'd be me. First exam on Tuesday, ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh it'll be right.
what uni's you lads going to?
lol rugby what is that
afl only state here
The Australian team sucks compared to the Australian team 5ish years ago.
At least the games were even and not just a one sided walkover.
Love sport.
Who am I kidding, rather watch yo gabba gabba than the football
So excited. Armaggedon is next weekend.
I'm such a nerd...
[QUOTE=Hana-San;32810580]So excited. Armaggedon is next weekend.
I'm such a nerd...[/QUOTE]
Oh god, it is?
[QUOTE=sltungle;32810655]Oh god, it is?[/QUOTE]
Yes. You should know. Your coming to this thing with me aren't you?
[QUOTE=Hana-San;32810666]Yes. You should know. Your coming to this thing with me aren't you?[/QUOTE]
Best double up on studying on one of the days of the week, then.
[QUOTE=Contag;32809983]what uni's you lads going to?
lol rugby what is that
afl only state here[/QUOTE]
Preferences are Macquarie, UNSW, UTS, in that order.
[QUOTE=Dark_Light;32810726]Preferences are Macquarie, UNSW, UTS, in that order.[/QUOTE]
Good choices dude, moving to UNSW next year with luck
in UON atm and its shit
What are you studying? I'm hoping to defer for a year.
finally moved over to chrome
Sorry, you need to Log In to post a reply to this thread.
