• Corruption in Gaming Journalism Discussion V2 - Back from the dead!
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[QUOTE=Te Great Skeeve;47174357]I made a giant post and cloudflare deleted it when I tried to post. Holy god damn I am [I]angry[/I], why didn't I save it. Had all the arguments compiled and everything, for fucks sake. FP fix the damn copy-paste issue already.[/QUOTE] I'm used to CTRL+Ving large posts before submitting, you never know when the servers will shit themselves.
[QUOTE=Wii60;47174407]remember when the SVU episode was pro-rape and pro-gamergate [url]https://archive.today/jLK0D[/url][/QUOTE] I don't know should I laugh or cry.
[QUOTE=Te Great Skeeve;47174357]I made a giant post and cloudflare deleted it when I tried to post. Holy god damn I am [I]angry[/I], why didn't I save it. Had all the arguments compiled and everything, for fucks sake. FP fix the damn copy-paste issue already.[/QUOTE] Protip: [url=https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/lazarus-form-recovery/loljledaigphbcpfhfmgopdkppkifgno]Lazarus[/url].
[QUOTE=Fangz;47174050][quote=journalist]There’s only so much I can do to tell people about the wonderful community of gamers, writers and thinkers[/quote][/QUOTE] Oh I thought we were dead? Now we're a wonderful community of gamers, writers, and thinkers? Now that you agenda hit mainstream media and your own words ricocheted right back into you, we're redeemable rather than replaceable? [QUOTE=Tetsmega;47174365]Honestly i've never seen any without being paired with shitposting/insults. Any non shitpost aGG arguments i've seen are outside of FP and are usually falsified by general game knowledge.[/QUOTE] Jamsponge was polite in their arguments. [QUOTE=_Axel;47174512]I'm used to CTRL+Ving large posts before submitting, you never know when the servers will shit themselves.[/QUOTE] Sometimes I go a step further and save drafts in notepad. Power outages are a bitch.
I wonder what, if anything, AGG people and people of similar ideological systems would think of metal (the genre of music) and its web of subgenres?
[QUOTE=shotgun334;47174656]I wonder what, if anything, AGG people and people of similar ideological systems would think of metal (the genre of music) and its web of subgenres?[/QUOTE] Who cares? [editline]19th February 2015[/editline] They hate Disturbed because their lead singer came out in support of GG. :v:
[QUOTE=shotgun334;47174656]I wonder what, if anything, AGG people and people of similar ideological systems would think of metal (the genre of music) and its web of subgenres?[/QUOTE] Someone tried to start shit there already ,it crashed hard.Not gonna push any anti-gamers in that direction the world is honestly better if they focus on use less damage to other subcultures and cultures that way.
[QUOTE=JesseR92;47174678]Someone tried to start shit there already ,it crashed hard.Not gonna push any anti-gamers in that direction the world is honestly better if they focus on use less damage to other subcultures and cultures that way.[/QUOTE] That makes sense; I would rather not be browsing whatever metal forum/site of the week and have to deal with anti-gamer bullshit. [editline]20th February 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Banned?;47174666]Who cares? [editline]19th February 2015[/editline] They hate Disturbed because their lead singer came out in support of GG. :v:[/QUOTE] I'm honestly not surprised that AGG would 1. Jump to conclusions about a band like that and 2. Not separate the art from the artist (a non-universal principle that I take to heart)
[QUOTE=Wii60;47174407]remember when the SVU episode was pro-rape and pro-gamergate [url]https://archive.today/jLK0D[/url][/QUOTE] So SVU was just giving male gamers a visual representation of their desires to rape and torture female game devs, therefor SVU is encouraging GG to fulfill those fantasies and attempting to intimidate Anita and co. out of the industry by endorsing their rape and torture. This is like a 9/11 truther and an anti-vaxxer conspired to have a baby, but then cheated with a flat earther while wearing a tin foil hat. 10/10 conspiracy please start a youtube series to show us the truth immediately.
[QUOTE=Banned?;47174666]Who cares? [editline]19th February 2015[/editline] They hate Disturbed because their lead singer came out in support of GG. :v:[/QUOTE] It's funny, because I knew a hardcore AGG'er whose favorite band was Disturbed. I don't know if he ever found out about Draiman's support, because he banned everyone who was pro-gg from his corner of the internet.
[QUOTE=Solo Wing;47174436]From what I heard, they painted gaming in general in a VERY negative light. So what the flying fuck? Do these hacks even read up on the stories they're fucking writing articles on?[/QUOTE] No. That would actually require them to do their job.
[QUOTE=Zet;47174976]No. That would actually require them to do their job.[/QUOTE] If I remember correctly there were a few anti-gg journalists that were accused of not playing games that they had reviewed. A few even admitted to it, I believe, I'm sure someone around here has a source on that. I'm saying this because "That would actually require them to do their job." is usually something you would use as a cheap jab and not an accurate criticism, in this case however it actually is accurate. They really don't read or investigate stories before writing about them.
[QUOTE=mcattack1092;47170612]But whats the bet that srhbuts discovers FP and this thread because of all the shit Amber is spewing on twitter and starts posting out-of-context screencaps of this thread depicting us all as misogynist harassers who want to ruin Amber's career?[/QUOTE] butts owns the largest open-face music piracy domain on the net, how well do you think shit slinging would work in that regard?
So one of the NIGORO devs (Guys who are responsible for La-Mulana) retweeted this: [IMG]http://i.gyazo.com/e52f05d1c5e550f19a3d4fdf0fea675c.png[/IMG]
That's a shame, I would have loved to see how the general audience responded to viewing that game.
[QUOTE=Rob3k;47175350]So one of the NIGORO devs (Guys who are responsible for La-Mulana) retweeted this: [IMG]http://i.gyazo.com/e52f05d1c5e550f19a3d4fdf0fea675c.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] Deaglenation strikes again!
Okkkay? I guess it's sad he's retweeting that but it's sort of a really small thing.
[QUOTE=27X;47175256]butts owns the largest open-face music piracy domain on the net, how well do you think shit slinging would work in that regard?[/QUOTE] Funny thing is, it seemed that only a few labels and artists gave a solid shit about what they were pirating. There never seemed to be any issues until you got popular music involved and a few of the soundtrack labels. Trust my experience with that person, if she made it here, she wouldn't last long at all. It would get bad if she brought all of her online bffs that make Max look cool and collected. That wouldn't last too long either, because I don't think they hold up well without having authority.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;47172247]Can someone explain to me why GamerGate can't be about journalism AND sexism in the gaming industry Game Journalism is shit and there's too much hate towards women in the industry, what does that make me?[/QUOTE] It is, what you're missing is the context in which it appears. The unvetted and friend-reviewed treatise (and its author) that started this mess is a sex negative third wave feminist that doesn't even play games, and decided to label gamers generally based on literal hearsay about how "yucky" the world of gaming is. An Escapist "journalist" offered said treatise up to the GameJournoPro group who ran with it along with Leigh "All the Reich Moves" Alexander; who pretty much tells the Guardian and Time magazine what to think about video games. (Ponder that for a second, two major news outlets that span the world get their gaming context from a classist and openly racist douchenozzle, and they have yet to fact check a single thing she's blatantly lied about; for further context; she's said she's not really a journalist, she just likes "discussion about games", and hobbyists gamers are "obtuse shitslingers" and mouth-breathing "hyperconsumers" ). Issue is that's one facet of corruption. Stuff like the IGF/IGDA are another, and these people are also ardent third wave feminists. (in addition to being open racketeers) The context of the core issue is right and wrong, and has nothing to do with whether you have a vagina or penis or are transitioning between those to the other. The core issue is fucking with the main means of storytelling in the 21st century for clout and political cache... and profit. Feminism surrounds the issue, but being a fuckface and casting an entire entertainment venue and hobby in a negative and sensationalist light via online McCarthyism requires neither reproductive bits nor any political leanings around/about them. It makes you a person posting on the internet; no more no less. Any labeling thereafter doesn't really mean anything.
[QUOTE=Te Great Skeeve;47175369]Okkkay? I guess it's sad he's retweeting that but it's sort of a really small thing.[/QUOTE] Well at least the Sequel to La-Mulana looks 250 times better than rev 50 and it stars a female protag who is Lemeza's Daughter.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;47172304]It does matter. A whole lot. Unlike videogames, which are products, GG is a movement. And when it comes to movements you need people on your side to achieve your goals.[/QUOTE] No, it is not. Gamergate was an event. That's it. [editline]20th February 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Ithon;47174101][url]http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2wfmuu/fresh_allegations_of_corruption_french_developer/[/url] [thumb]http://i.imgur.com/IHnmn1d.png[/thumb][/QUOTE] Pretty much same position as Alexander.
Fem freq wiped their donor list before: [url]https://web.archive.org/web/20150108083210/http://www.feministfrequency.com/donate/donors/[/url] after: [url]https://archive.today/fUbz4[/url]
[QUOTE=Wii60;47175454]Fem freq wiped their donor list before: [url]https://web.archive.org/web/20150108083210/http://www.feministfrequency.com/donate/donors/[/url] after: [url]https://archive.today/fUbz4[/url][/QUOTE] That sounds like saying "Fuck you" to the donors.
[QUOTE=Wii60;47175454]Fem freq wiped their donor list before: [url]https://web.archive.org/web/20150108083210/http://www.feministfrequency.com/donate/donors/[/url] after: [url]https://archive.today/fUbz4[/url][/QUOTE] An odd choice. Will Anita maybe say the donors were being harassed?
[QUOTE=thrawn2787;47174051]Well that was infuriating. None of the Norwegians gave any answers as to why they thought biology played no role, or any reasons to refute the studies done by the English/Americans. Either these people literally have no reasons or this documentary was kind of poop. My guess is with the blonde Norwegian woman she literally had no reason and just wanted to believe, considering what she says at the end. At least the English gave reasons as to why they disagreed with the other side.[/QUOTE] I think it says enough about this documentary that its showing pretty much led to the closure of the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_Gender_Institute#Impact%20of%20Hjernevask"]Nordic Gender Institute[/URL].
[QUOTE=Te Great Skeeve;47174357]I made a giant post and cloudflare deleted it when I tried to post. Holy god damn I am [I]angry[/I], why didn't I save it. Had all the arguments compiled and everything, for fucks sake. FP fix the damn copy-paste issue already.[/QUOTE] check out the lazarus addon, saves every form you work in (except passwords obv) just in case of something like that and lets you bring back the lost typing, won't work retroactively but will save you from future headaches
Right, just woke up, what happened with Pixelgoth? The last thing I remember was her removing her twitter post saying to dog pile on Facepunch.
[QUOTE=Xonax;47176049]Right, just woke up, what happened with Pixelgoth? The last thing I remember was her removing her twitter post saying to dog pile on Facepunch.[/QUOTE] dogpile? I don't know, your # of posts and time joining is on the board makes you stand out.
[QUOTE=Wii60;47174407]remember when the SVU episode was pro-rape and pro-gamergate [url]https://archive.today/jLK0D[/url][/QUOTE] Now serious, what's with these people citing themselves all the time? It can't be they can't find anyone having the same opinion (they could even cite [I]me[/I], I tweeted something similar to one of the authors but without the made up stuff about vicarious rape fulfilment), so maybe they are just too lazy to reformulate their tweets into a proper text? Or are they so vain they won't even bother with supporting their argument with another's view? [editline]20th February 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=wickedplayer494;47174564]Protip: [url=https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/lazarus-form-recovery/loljledaigphbcpfhfmgopdkppkifgno]Lazarus[/url].[/QUOTE] [URL="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/lazarus-form-recovery/"]Also available for Firefox.[/URL] [editline]20th February 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Wii60;47175454]Fem freq wiped their donor list before: [url]https://web.archive.org/web/20150108083210/http://www.feministfrequency.com/donate/donors/[/url] after: [url]https://archive.today/fUbz4[/url][/QUOTE] Something interesting about archive.today: [URL="https://archive.today/HfCAa"]If you archive an archive.org page it's correctly filed under the original page with a note about the retrieval.[/URL] [editline]20th February 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Xonax;47176049]Right, just woke up, what happened with Pixelgoth? The last thing I remember was her removing her twitter post saying to dog pile on Facepunch.[/QUOTE] To be fair she didn't [I]quite[/I] say that. She just tried to manufacture drama against Garry and failed spectacularly.
Oddly enough no stream of 2015 accounts with 1 post in this thread at all today. I wonder how many false reports mods get from this thread though.
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