Corruption in Gaming Journalism Discussion V2 - Back from the dead!
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That's kind of been an underlying urge of gamergate when you think about it, a want for somebody to actually represent gamers. The problem is it's hard to find someone who will talk often and passionately without at the same time revealing themselves to be flawed.
It's why people feel so betrayed by some gaming journalists.
It's why people flocked to Totalbiscuit.
People just want a societal face to be proud of.
I want liz to be my voice because she's attractive and has more value therefore
[QUOTE=Annoyed Grunt;47192761]I don't get what /r/AgainstGamergate is supposed to be. You cannot be against gamergate if you A) are against corruption B) care about games. Gamergate is not a group, it's a customer revolt, it's an ideal. You may not like *some* of the people who bring it on, but you are against [I]them[/I], not against the ideal.
I'm not going to call myself "Anti-Equality" just because I think Anita Sarkeesian is full o' shit, for example.[/QUOTE]
It's one of the reasons I have some concerns with the notion of people being "neutral" on the subject. A neutral person is essentially, as far as I'm concerned, saying they have no problems with journalists writing favorable articles and providing coverage (especially favorable) for friends without disclosing these relationships? That there's nothing wrong with shunning "outsiders" in the gaming scene (indie or otherwise)? Admittedly it's a tough sell to make people want to care because "it's gaming journalism isn't that an oxymoron? lol" .
[QUOTE=Monkah;47193100]If you can't take two seconds out of your daily life to refer to a trans as 'she' instead of 'he' (or visa versa)-- it's just being rude. Whether you personally recognize them as male or female, it's one extra letter just to make someone feel a whole lot happier. Who cares?
All in all, he's exactly the boogeymen that places like /r/GamerGhazi love to describe. I don't want him being a major figure within GamerGate with those kinds of views-- validating their claims would really suck.[/QUOTE]
In the end the only "Ideal" about trans people that get's me shafted is when they don't tell me they're trans and I use "He" or "She" to refer to them in their current biological sex. There's no reason to be prancing around and declaring that everyone should be using gender-neutral pronouns or some other bullshit.
Not adhering to the preferred gender makes you a fuckwit.
Not being telepathic isn't a fault.
this summer lianak will do a cosplay show for the escapist
[url]https://twitter.com/archon/status/569643980331200512[/url]
[QUOTE=Dick Slamfist;47193068]I once saw someone in a /v/ thread on #gg mention FP and then complain about milkandcooki and craptasket and it was oddly surreal because I thought those were characters only I knew about[/QUOTE]
FP is like /v/ for the most part, just without the annoying /pol/ shitposting.
I'm a big fan of liz if we ever really need someone to be a figurehead.
On the topic of trans people; let them be called what they want. Call them what they physically are when you first meet them, but if they request you call them otherwise then do the polite thing and adhere to their wish. It is no skin off of your teeth. I also think that this doesn't belong here; we're here to talk about corruption not to debate the morality/actions of those whom believe they were born into the wrong body.
attractive people make the [I]best[/I] figureheads, why do you think pirates put bodacious mermaid tits on their boats
[QUOTE=OrDnAs;47192005]This is so retarded
[url]http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gamergate[/url][/QUOTE]
Apparently it's the longest article on 'Rational'wiki.
Ergh, quite honestly I'm still pissed off about the loss of 4chan. For some reason, I always thought it would be -the- place until the day Moot died of a heart attack or some shit.
To see it not actually represent the total free speech zone it used to be is just plain saddening. One can only hope that fullchan will be a worthy successor.
I have to agree with you, I don't follow a lot of gamergate or really practice any of it's stuff but seeing 4chan fall and losing so much of /v/ is weirdly saddening to me
[QUOTE=OrDnAs;47192005]This is so retarded
[url]http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gamergate[/url][/QUOTE]
I've got sysop powers on RW (not hard to get, honestly), but I haven't edited there in like a year.
For a long time, they've had the internal bias of "MRA = neckbeard shitpig", and as soon as GG hit they went full retard. Not even worth trying to convince them. They were basically just waiting for a major controversy to rally around and were already firmly feminist, so it was all but inevitable.
[QUOTE=Deng;47193833]Apparently it's the longest article on 'Rational'wiki.[/QUOTE]
Sigh. And now they've become [URL="https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=homosexuality%20and%20site%3Aconservapedia.com"]that which they hated[/URL]. The unadulterated crazy of Conservapedia is finally consuming them.
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;47194199]Sigh. And now they've become [URL="https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=homosexuality%20and%20site%3Aconservapedia.com"]that which they hated[/URL]. The unadulterated crazy of Conservapedia is finally consuming them.[/QUOTE]Something to be said about fighting monsters and staring in to abysses.
[QUOTE=Wii60;47191691](not related to above)
League of legends has a Spectator system where you can watch any player that plays at any time.
Someone used this to make a twitch stream showing every game of a certian esports player in the LoL area using a automated bot.
The people who run his team tried to DMCA the stream, but it was basically useless because there was no reason for a DMCA and the request was declined.
this causes a riot games co-founder to compare the replay system they implemented to watch other players to "E-Stalking":
:words:
heres a spectator system, but don't use it because you'll be a stalker if you do. victim cards everywhere[/QUOTE]
Not this shit again...
[img]http://i.imgur.com/3j6DYNd.png[/img]
So, I noticed #DontDateSJWs trending on twitter, and I decided to see what it was. I immediately lost my shit. Some of these are fucking hilarious.....
[QUOTE]If you're the first to finish, they'll call you on your privilege.[/QUOTE]
riot has proven time and time again to be filled with shitheads, im always really confused when everyones surprised when a riot employee says something stupid
Isn't Riot also one of the worst companies to do an internship at?
[QUOTE=SpotEnemyBoat;47193732]FP is like /v/ for the most part, just without the annoying /pol/ shitposting.[/QUOTE]
Well you could go to SH and it's about the same :v:
[QUOTE=Dick Slamfist;47194018]I have to agree with you, I don't follow a lot of gamergate or really practice any of it's stuff but seeing 4chan fall and losing so much of /v/ is weirdly saddening to me[/QUOTE]
quite honestly I didn't see it ever happening
4chan was the original of its kind to ever really be a 'thing'-- kind of like google for search engines. I feel oddly uncomfortable seeing it pretty much fucked over now.
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;47194199]I've got sysop powers on RW (not hard to get, honestly), but I haven't edited there in like a year.
For a long time, they've had the internal bias of "MRA = neckbeard shitpig", and as soon as GG hit they went full retard. Not even worth trying to convince them. They were basically just waiting for a major controversy to rally around and were already firmly feminist, so it was all but inevitable.
Sigh. And now they've become [URL="https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=homosexuality%20and%20site%3Aconservapedia.com"]that which they hated[/URL]. The unadulterated crazy of Conservapedia is finally consuming them.[/QUOTE]
At least Conservapedia's crazy is hilarious, with articles like "Does Richard Dawkins have machismo?". Rationalwiki's craziness is dumb whte knighting to show that they're not like THOSE nerds, amirite?
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;47194244]Something to be said about fighting monsters and staring in to abysses.[/QUOTE]
As I said before, Conservapedia is more or less one really devoted lunatic and a bunch of trolls. It's more of a windmill that a crazy guy built than an abyss.
[QUOTE=Aredbomb;47194630]As I said before, Conservapedia is more or less one really devoted lunatic and a bunch of trolls. It's more of a windmill that a crazy guy built than an abyss.[/QUOTE]
and yet RW still went batshit after staring at it too long
[QUOTE=Zet;47194420]Isn't Riot also one of the worst companies to do an internship at?[/QUOTE]
Oh god yes.
Put this way. They [I]pay you to fire yourself[/I] if you don't drink the koolaid, and they have literal Riot koolaid, the team meetings are like tumblr rallies. I wish I was exaggerating, but I am not. You could be the world's best coder or Leonardo Depolygon, but if you don't fit the "riot way"; you're going to be looking for another job.
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[QUOTE=Dick Slamfist;47192998]Is the escapist the most well known gamergate discussion place?
Does anyone even know about this place? Are we like the 5th tier site to discuss video games?[/QUOTE]
Most people of the not know consider FP that site where the trolls post in boxes instead of free-form like /v/; most of the people of the know consider FP the 10 year old's version of SA, which it pretty much was until a little while ago, unless you're redtext, then it still is. The reason I post here still is you can pretty much openly call people on their bullshit, which frankly is a disappearing thing on gaming sites.
[QUOTE=27X;47194818]Oh god yes.
Put this way. They [i]pay you to fire yourself[/i] if you don't drink the koolaid, and they have literal Riot koolaid, the team meetings are like tumblr rallies. I wish I was exaggerating, but I am not. You could be the world's best coder or Leonardo Depolygon, but if you don't fit the "riot way"; you're going to be looking for another job.[/QUOTE]
Honestly makes me wish LoL crashed when Phreak was paying out the ass just to advertise.
I mean even Valve is shitty to employees because the flat management, but Riot has hierarchical management. People on the bottom have to kiss asses to keep their jobs over ideologies rather than business decisions.
Rationalwiki was always rotten. Don't let the articles about crank medicines fool you, any idiot can find some crank medicine and write a "witty" explanation. For every article about batshit homeopaths or sunlight therapy, there were at least 3 about Conservapedia, their skirmishes with them, or some individual who somebody on RW hates.
They originally planned on taking "Liberalpedia", but it was already taken. When that folded, they offered to sell the domain to RW, but they refused, because the "rationalwiki" one is much more valuable in that it seems more authoritative and neutral (when it isn't).
Remember RW also started off back in the Bush years when there was a huge debate about evolution teaching in schools, climate change, peak oil, etc and liberals were supposedly the underdogs fighting for SCIENCE against the dumb rednecks.
Because of all that, they've developed a strong presence on the internet that gives weight to them as they've effectively monopolized the label of "rational". In reality its a bunch of people making long rambling articles about things they don't like: [url]http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gamergate[/url]
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PEOPLE FOUND OUT HIS REAL NAME IS NOT JACE CONNORS AND IS PART OF MDE
THIS MEANS THE RESTRAINING ORDER WU GOT ON HIM IS FAKE
MY MIND CANT TAKE THIS
what's going on?
Wait, so Parkourdude really was an elaborate troll? I need some info, man!
[url]https://kiwifar.ms/threads/jace-connors-is-probably-a-hoax.7920/[/url]
the guy that crashed his car to street race brianna wu is fake
Go check the thread in the video section, christ alive don't clog this thread with it for the next four pages.
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