• Corruption in Gaming Journalism Discussion V2 - Back from the dead!
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Garry, shaved his head once, making him bald, mr. clean is bald, mr. clean is a male figurehead in charge of women's work, mr. clean takes women's jobs, mr. clean oppresses women, therefore garry being bald oppresses women. It all makes sense now.
I love that she's still saying her email is private despite it being on the front page of her website. I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt and say that she forgot that it was there. Still funny to me though.
[QUOTE=echo78;47195808]I love that she's still saying her email is private despite it being on the front page of her website. I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt and say that she forgot that it was there. Still funny to me though.[/QUOTE] That, and I think she's taking more of an issue with it being linked to a Facepunch account and that part being made public. Looking at the Minecraft thread it does seem they are griefing pretty badly though. I'd say both sides carry some responsibility and could have acted differently. I do get where she's coming from but this is being blown way out of proportion.
What I find interesting is Niandra is anti-GG. also hi you're watching the thread pls don't ban everybody like TH89 v2 electric boogaloo
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;47195767]Hey, wait a minute... [thumb]http://u.cubeupload.com/Coldmute/qGvDTa.png[/thumb] Also, we got archived, neat. I'm in there. Hi, me! [url]https://archive.today/Iq831[/url][/QUOTE] Yeah, there was a lot about Facepunch on my twitter feed this morning but it all seemed kinda incoherent, so I thought I'd make it clear that, hey, if anyone wants a chat I'd be willing to listen. I know how busy people like Garry are and probably don't want to deal with this sort of thing Like, I keep typing more to this but deleting it cuz I'm not really sure what to say or make of this - I was mainly curious why she signed up to Facepunch in the first place as it seemed odd to make an account to post griefing pics [editline]23rd February 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=ForgottenKane;47195874]What I find interesting is Niandra is anti-GG. also hi you're watching the thread pls don't ban everybody like TH89 v2 electric boogaloo[/QUOTE] Hahahah, hi Like, the way I see it, as long as you guys aren't starting witch hunts and or harassing people, I'm totally fine just letting everyone get on with whatever
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;47195767]Hey, wait a minute... [thumb]http://u.cubeupload.com/Coldmute/qGvDTa.png[/thumb] Also, we got archived, neat. I'm in there. Hi, me! [url]https://archive.today/Iq831[/url][/QUOTE] She's complaining about her anonymity being taken away while pretty active on a social network where she has a picture of herself and her real name. There's a joke here somewhere, I think...
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;47195901]She's complaining about her anonymity being taken away while pretty active on a social network where she has a picture of herself and her real name. There's a joke here somewhere, I think...[/QUOTE] In that context I think she's talking about the anonimity on the minecraft server.
[QUOTE=Marlamin;47195906]In that context I think she's talking about the anonimity on the minecraft server.[/QUOTE] Nevertheless, it's funny how she's still insisting her e-mail is private when it's literally on the front page of her site.
[QUOTE=Xenomoose;47191425][URL="https://archive.today/E4Tz3"]Game Zone admits coverage of GamerGate is incredibly one-sided and is starting to ask why.[/URL] Good article about Mercedes' video and the apparent lack of coverage of what she talks about. People are starting to ask why nobody talks about this stuff.[/QUOTE] Even if there are problems with it, [URL="http://www.gamezone.com/originals/the-hypocrisy-of-faux-feminists-and-flawed-gamergate-media-coverage-exposed-jsj2"]I think it's fine to link this one directly[/URL].
[QUOTE=Everstvetita;47195785]They actually think they can phase Garry, he'll throw out a witty tweet and ignore them, they'll then become blood lusted and scour through his 50 year old tweets and find something offensive and rally around it, the best they can hope for Is maybe a 5-10 up voted thread on Ghazi.[/QUOTE] With any luck they'll dig back just over a year and find Ohmwrecker's tweets to garry. Who? Why? If you don't remember the incident, let's just say it'll be hilarious if aGG tries to necro this old "issue" to create drama with it: [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1354158"]The day postal made Reddit hate Facepunch more.[/URL]
[QUOTE=Wii60;47191455]self awareness 2.0 [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/NrSG6TC.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] [URL="http://tweetsave.com/benkuchera/status/569379733265190912"]Archive[/URL].
[QUOTE=Jamsponge;47191957]Well, I just found out that Brandon Morse doesn't think you should have to refer to trans people with their desired pronouns (yes, that includes just he or she ones). Kind of disappointed by that.[/QUOTE] I'll need a source on that. I (coarsely) searched his twitter but all I could see was him complaining about possible bathroom use by people "pretending" to be trans (related to that South Park episode), and being forced to use more out-there pronouns with people who aren't binary or identify as non-human.
[QUOTE=Dick Slamfist;47193068]I once saw someone in a /v/ thread on #gg mention FP and then complain about milkandcooki and craptasket and it was oddly surreal because I thought those were characters only I knew about[/QUOTE] lol I remember seeing that too. I think he said something about craptasket being nothing but a shitposting mod (I doubt craptasket would deny that lol) and he had some colorful things to say about milkandcooki and SJWs. And I remember another user being mentioned in the SJW context. I then promptly saw a poster write off FP like it was 9gag. I don't get the hate between sites most of the time, especially because I use 8chan, FP, and Reddit regularly... but even if I hated FP, comparing it to 9gag just seems wrong. Anyway, was funny to see FP get mentioned.
[QUOTE=Annoyed Grunt;47192761]I don't get what /r/AgainstGamergate is supposed to be. You cannot be against gamergate if you A) are against corruption B) care about games. Gamergate is not a group, it's a customer revolt, it's an ideal. You may not like *some* of the people who bring it on, but you are against [I]them[/I], not against the ideal. I'm not going to call myself "Anti-Equality" just because I think Anita Sarkeesian is full o' shit, for example.[/QUOTE] It's mostly about people who think that the means aren't justified. Personally I disagree because this level of harassment "just happens" when people are this antagonistic and complain about every single abusive tweet. (The subreddit title is also in part intentionally like it is in order to attract more neutral/anti people.)
[QUOTE=NiandraLades;47195883]Yeah, there was a lot about Facepunch on my twitter feed this morning but it all seemed kinda incoherent, so I thought I'd make it clear that, hey, if anyone wants a chat I'd be willing to listen. I know how busy people like Garry are and probably don't want to deal with this sort of thing[/QUOTE] I mostly decided to stay out of this because it seemed like a shitshow, but here we go: Mistake #1: She decided to shitpost on FP. Mistake #2: She used her business email address for signing up. Mistake #3: When mods revealed that it was her, by showing her email address, she accused FP mods of doxing her, when that address is PUBLICLY VISIBLE on her OWN website. Mistake #4: When Garry asked her to deliver any proof that she got doxed she didn't do that. Mistake #5: She heavily implies that FP is transphobic when we have people here that are transgender and nobody fucking cares.
[QUOTE=uber.;47196080]Mistake #5: She heavily implies that FP is transphobic when we have people here that are transgender and nobody fucking cares.[/QUOTE] Don't we even have a thread on GD for trans people? I've never lurked there so I'm not sure if its just a place to shoot the shit or strictly to discuss trans related topics.
[QUOTE=uber.;47192997]To be honest I'd rather not see stuff like this here.[/QUOTE] Right, it's only relevant if she were to accuse someone else of it.
[QUOTE=uber.;47196080]Mistake #4: When Garry asked her to deliver any proof that she got doxed she didn't do that.[/QUOTE] It went down like, "Your mod doxxed my private email and IP!" "If you can prove one of my mods doxxed you I'll give them the boot right now. Can you do that?" "You and your mods are misogynistic shitlords! I can't believe this! Blocked for harassment!" [URL="http://files.facepunch.com/garry/2015/February/19/2015-02-19_11-25-08.png"]To be specific, this is how it actually went down.[/URL]
[QUOTE=Damoman;47193210]That's kind of been an underlying urge of gamergate when you think about it, a want for somebody to actually represent gamers. The problem is it's hard to find someone who will talk often and passionately without at the same time revealing themselves to be flawed. It's why people feel so betrayed by some gaming journalists. It's why people flocked to Totalbiscuit. People just want a societal face to be proud of.[/QUOTE] That's probably part of it for some people. Personally I'm just angry about the general hypocrisy and bad aiming.
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;47195874]What I find interesting is Niandra is anti-GG. also hi you're watching the thread pls don't ban everybody like TH89 v2 electric boogaloo[/QUOTE] I'm curious about that too, I don't really understand why anyone is Anti-GG though when looking at core values Like are they pro-corruption/nepotism or do they believe in fallacies like guilt by association and genetic fallacy. I find it hard to believe anyone can research and actually believe that the fake stories of everyone involved are white MRAs, when it's mostly just moderate leftist/rightist and centrist that want a fair media. If you don't want a corrupt games media, then you are not an Anti because you don't oppose us at all :V
Anti and Pro are loose definitions at best. I consider myself neutral. However, I like to talk about GG topics, because I feel there is definitely a need to talk. Simply because of that some people might consider me pro GG. It's a mess.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;47195917]Nevertheless, it's funny how she's still insisting her e-mail is private when it's literally on the front page of her site.[/QUOTE] She has a bit of a point, since normally you wouldn't expect forum mods to link pseudonyms like that. Still no reason to accuse someone of harassment when it just plain doesn't cause it to happen in any way that would be significant.
Anti-GG's reality distortion field is able to erase the knowledge of a week's worth of documented trolling in Minecraft. That's impressive, you have to admit.
[url]https://twitter.com/DanielVavra/status/569686445344079872[/url] Guy has to defend his game (Kingdom Come: Deliverance) against an anti-gg guy who says "Why isn't there black guys in this medieval period game?"
[QUOTE=Te Great Skeeve;47196696][url]https://twitter.com/DanielVavra/status/569686445344079872[/url] Guy has to defend his game (Kingdom Come: Deliverance) against an anti-gg guy who says "Why isn't there black guys in this medieval period game?"[/QUOTE] Really, the Bible is missing chinese people. Also, the Odyssey is really lacking in the portrayal of aboriginal australians. Fucking writers with agendas.
[QUOTE=Te Great Skeeve;47196696][url]https://twitter.com/DanielVavra/status/569686445344079872[/url] Guy has to defend his game (Kingdom Come: Deliverance) against an anti-gg guy who says "Why isn't there black guys in this medieval period game?"[/QUOTE] Still? I thought that was complained about by certain people months ago.
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;47196548]Anti-GG's reality distortion field is able to erase the knowledge of a week's worth of documented trolling in Minecraft. That's impressive, you have to admit.[/QUOTE] To be fair, it's 2b2t. What they did wasn't disallowed per the server rules.
[QUOTE=Te Great Skeeve;47196696][url]https://twitter.com/DanielVavra/status/569686445344079872[/url] Guy has to defend his game (Kingdom Come: Deliverance) against an anti-gg guy who says "Why isn't there black guys in this medieval period game?"[/QUOTE] Im seeing a bunch of morons who dont know the difference between trade and migration. Aparently the mongols invading is the best excuse to have asians in Europe aswell. I should stop reading, my head hurts.
[QUOTE=Tamschi;47196819]Still? I thought that was complained about by certain people months ago.[/QUOTE] Yeah, and they all demonstrated about as much knowledge about Medieval history and demographics as you'd expect them to.
[QUOTE=Zephyrs;47196892]To be fair, it's 2b2t. What they did wasn't disallowed per the server rules.[/QUOTE] Whether it's allowed or not, it was still a week straight of griefing. Purposely antagonizing a community because you disagree with the politics of their minecraft server is petty and ridiculous.
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