• Corruption in Gaming Journalism Discussion V2 - Back from the dead!
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[QUOTE=Mikaru-Yanagida;46953748]I wonder what would happen to ABC if people like totalbiscuit and other gamers who work for disney just skipped past ABC and went straight to disney telling them they won't stand for that shit because it's hurting their business.[/QUOTE] Then the response they'd probably get is "Sorry you guys, ABC is bringing more money even while hurting your business than you'll ever do~"
[QUOTE=Géza!;46953910]Then the response they'd probably get is "Sorry you guys, ABC is bringing more money even while hurting your business than you'll ever do~"[/QUOTE] Then they support the corruption.
disney doesn't give a shit this is a multinational, multibillion dollar mass media corporation you're talking about you wouldn't even be dignified with a response
[QUOTE=_Axel;46953423]It's more widespread than the English version, yes. But etymologically both 'cunt' and 'con' were originally used to refer to female genitalia.[/QUOTE] .... I probably should have checked your Flagdog before I tried correcting your French. Désolée.
Ne t'approprie pas ma langue ! But really, I wasn't aware the average Brit was so up-to-date on the use of French insults.
[QUOTE=_Axel;46954065]Ne t'approprie pas ma langue ! But really, I wasn't aware the average Brit was so up-to-date on the use of French insults.[/QUOTE] All the better to insult you with.
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;46954117]All the better to insult you with.[/QUOTE] *Cues Holy Grail Frenchman scene*
[QUOTE=_Axel;46954065]Ne t'approprie pas ma langue ! But really, I wasn't aware the average Brit was so up-to-date on the use of French insults.[/QUOTE] I'm not really the average Brit, I'm going to be doing French and Linguistics at Uni :v: But yeah, it's great fun listening to our French teachers talk amongst themselves because there are 'putain's and 'con's sprinkled liberally. [editline]17th January 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=_Axel;46954140]*Cues Holy Grail Frenchman scene*[/QUOTE] Ta mère, elle était un hamster, et ton père il sent de baies de sureau !
Theres one or more people using proxies to manually spam 8chan boards with pictures of abused women, with a #gamergate shopped on. Manually. Spam.
[QUOTE=Mattk50;46954683]Theres one or more people using proxies to manually spam 8chan boards with pictures of abused women, with a #gamergate shopped on. Manually. Spam.[/QUOTE] I've had friends who could barely print a document without calling Geek Squad figure out how to spam boards with scripts. That is embarassing.
I'm getting angrier and angrier as this goes on, these last few weeks have been pretty rough for us I'd say and certainly don't show good times coming. I want to do something. I want something about this tug of war we're stuck in to change. It's ridiculous the situation we're in. We're the nerds, geeks, gamers, enthusiasits that got shit on our whole lives for our hobby. Then we reach our 20's and onwards, no one's really caring about us at that point letting us toil away in anonymity and just really enjoy ourselves. Now, we're those same people, but getting attacked for being the bullies we've never been. We're silenced effectively, we cannot do anything at all to open discourse with them because they're the real bullies and have entirely made an effective method of ignoring us for real. I've been pretty calm since August when this shit broke, but I'm not calm anymore, i'm tired and afraid of my hobby being destroyed because fuck sticks couldn't leave well enough alone, couldn't and wouldn't, even engage in discussions. I could argue circles around every AGG'er there is, but it doesn't matter when they just start the conversation out with "We're going to ignore you and say whatever the fuck we want"
Whenever we get a victory they have to go full offense. [URL]https://twitter.com/professorf/status/556094725686444033[/URL] Yall goin down now motherfuckers - outright and obvious censorship is going to get you fucking destroyed - regardless if your piece is right or not. What the fuck are you going to do now Wikipedia? Etc.
[QUOTE=Ayane-152;46952140]Just a reminder of what happens when GG loses [t]http://i.imgur.com/ZBsuYke.png[/t][/QUOTE] Just realized something, if we lose then a lot of Game Devs will realize SJW mean business, meaning a lot of games could get reworked and censored since it triggers them. Also they could get onto the Classification board and censor other games, and we would lose a lot of Japanese games since they don't care about it "triggering" them.
[QUOTE=Ayane-152;46952140]Just a reminder of what happens when GG loses [t]http://i.imgur.com/ZBsuYke.png[/t][/QUOTE] This is what's throwing me off from this ordeal What exactly would be the endgame then? What happens [I]after[/I] the "sjw" win?
[QUOTE=Pako;46955012]This is what's throwing me off from this ordeal What exactly would be the endgame then? What happens [I]after[/I] the "sjw" win?[/QUOTE] These people learn that they can do anything they want and never have to face any consequences for it because they can brush it off as 'harassment'.
[QUOTE=Jamsponge;46955069]These people learn that they can do anything they want and never have to face any consequences for it because they can brush it off as 'harassment'.[/QUOTE] There has to be a limit, though. There's got to be a point where the general public will decide enough is enough and smack these fuckers down. And if GG doesn't succeed, when will this point be?
[QUOTE=Xenomoose;46955146]There has to be a limit, though. There's got to be a point where the general public will decide enough is enough and smack these fuckers down. And if GG doesn't succeed, when will this point be?[/QUOTE] Who really has an audience large enough make an impact, but enough credibility to go against the people who take a stand for "equality and against harassment", without assassinating their carrers. I mean it's a really tall order, people just dont want to be dicks and stop those who fight for causes that are benefitial to all.
[QUOTE=Pako;46955012]This is what's throwing me off from this ordeal What exactly would be the endgame then? What happens [I]after[/I] the "sjw" win?[/QUOTE] What I wonder is, what'll happen when we win? The SJW crowd absolutely won't be silent in 'defeat', mainstream media won't ever go back on their opinions and statements, and even if the corrupt journalists are fired more will take their place. Is the best-case scenario all of this being swept under the rug, except for a few disclosure policy changes? Will we just refer back to it in future scandals?
[QUOTE=Xenomoose;46955146]There has to be a limit, though. There's got to be a point where the general public will decide enough is enough and smack these fuckers down. And if GG doesn't succeed, when will this point be?[/QUOTE] considering majority population is still 'ew, video games'....i don't think there WILL be a point
man CON already did so well polygon made a article about it [url]https://archive.today/7P1md[/url] [editline]17th January 2015[/editline] And the Devs of the new Shadowrun support the "Original Ideals" of GamerGate, whatever the fuck that means [url]http://harebrained-schemes.com/blog/2015/01/17/hbs-supports-gamers/[/url]
[QUOTE=Pernoccuous;46955868]considering majority population is still 'ew, video games'....i don't think there WILL be a point[/QUOTE] I'm talking more about if they extend their efforts beyond games. If they try to get this shit into the legal realm, will there be a backlash? I doubt the average person would take kindly to SJW bullshit when they finally see it for what it is. The question is will it be too late by then.
[quote] first target of Gamergate's angry mob, and has received viscious harassment ever since total fabrications [/quote] [url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Viscious[/url] Do they have proofreaders peer reviews and editors or did they throw those out with their integrity. I now imagine anyone can walk in to their office, write a post and leave.
[QUOTE=Wii60;46955875] [editline]17th January 2015[/editline] And the Devs of the new Shadowrun support the "Original Ideals" of GamerGate, whatever the fuck that means [url]http://harebrained-schemes.com/blog/2015/01/17/hbs-supports-gamers/[/url][/QUOTE] Seems like an attempt in PR talk to please everyone, and not much more. [editline]editline[/editline] [quote=Tech Stegosaurous]If you simply stated a desire to remain neutral on a heated issue I don’t think anyone could blame you, however I cannot agree with this sentiment. By the logic expressed in this post, it becomes impossible for any sort of grass roots activism to exist. Consider a simple example, of a peaceful protest in support of democracy in a non-democratic country organised around a hashtag. The dictator could simply pay people to post harassing tweets under that hashtag. Now the hashtag is “fractured into different groups with different beliefs, some of whom act against the whole. This subgroup, who also use the Gamer Gate hashtag, perverts the original intent through harassment and manipulation”. I’m not saying that the bad parts of Gamergate are a false flag, some of it probably is but some of it probably isn’t. What I’m saying is that it’s a bad idea to judge hashtags by minorities like this, because it makes the very concept of grassroots activism vulnerable – and as a species grassroot activism is vial to helping the world improve.[/quote] This one comment is quite insightful.
Friend told me to look at the tumblr results for 8chan, i usually don't visit there but i found this by peter coffin. Not sure if i linked it correcttly its a pain in the ass to actually link to a specific post. [url]http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/8chan[/url] [QUOTE] A few of us decided to report 8chan for child porn a while ago (you know, because it hosts child porn) and the owner, Hotwheels, the definition of Lawful Evil, decided to post the reports - which for some reason their reverse proxy (Cloudflare) decided should contain identifying information on us. This is already enough to put a crosshairs on us, but he decided to link us to the recent DDoS attacks on his site to add a little extra seasoning for his starved legion of angry folks with no accountability.[/QUOTE] Because 8chan is definitely the lawful evil of the internet.
Wasn't it confirmed that Tumblr Feminists or AGG posted CP on 8chan to make it seem like it was?
8chan isn't Lawful Evil. If anything, it's Chaotic Good.
Is this real life [thumb]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7lVH3zIQAEoZ76.jpg[/thumb]
[QUOTE=Pako;46955012]This is what's throwing me off from this ordeal What exactly would be the endgame then? What happens [I]after[/I] the "sjw" win?[/QUOTE] The idea of triumphant over an entertainment platform leads to their voice being recognized while standing the moral high-ground which will be harder to argue against. What they would advocate for is the censorship of videogames or the certain appeal of videogames that wouldn't be profitable. The only people who will have the ability to resist are the big-wigs of EA, Activision, Blizz, Etc. The smaller one's will then be derided as racist/homophobic/misogynist if they do not conform. When they win, they'll be more encouraged to expand their platform, and they'll be able to put in a base where they can officially collaborate with one another instead of Tumblr & various spokespersons. Anti-GG, for all it's worth, sets very grounded and realistic goals that, once attained, won't be pushed any farther. Which is Journalism Integrity and washing the board to show we aren't as despicable as some people claim. GG has put themselves in a very vague goal, wherein they can push it forward or pull it back to suit their needs, there is no stopping. Imho.
[QUOTE=Ryo Ohki;46956282]Is this real life [thumb]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7lVH3zIQAEoZ76.jpg[/thumb][/QUOTE] I feel like this is ironic as fuck considering their argument about violent masculinity in video games causing real life repercussions, when they cant even tell the difference between a movie and reality. [editline]17th January 2015[/editline] Ban movies. Nothing but sick filth.
[QUOTE=Ryo Ohki;46956282]Is this real life [thumb]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7lVH3zIQAEoZ76.jpg[/thumb][/QUOTE] [img]http://i.imgur.com/BZ9tMga.png[/img]
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