• Corruption in Gaming Journalism Discussion V2 - Back from the dead!
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wu did something intellgent? wtf
[QUOTE=Helix Snake;47254010]I think this might actually be a sign of the possibility of Wu de-radicalizing.[/QUOTE] That shit doesn't happen in a week.
[QUOTE=Ziron;47251689]One thing I've learned from all of this Gamergate stuff is that medieval Europe was just as racially diverse as your average American city circa 2015 ([url]https://archive.today/dWVsq[/url]). White Americans have opened my eyes and showed me the truth about those Yurops and their ultra-racist ways. Incidentally, I've also learned the term "Amerisplaining".[/QUOTE] Amerisplaining is hilarious. (I'd like to pre-emptively coin "eurosplaining" (or yurosplaining) since yurop isn't exactly immune to this phenomenon either).
[QUOTE=Helix Snake;47254010]I think this might actually be a sign of the possibility of Wu de-radicalizing.[/QUOTE] This is the person that claimed Mark Kern is privileged, that she was batman facing off against GG, claimed a Sarin gas threat against GG was made by GG, and declared that she was sent a bomb threat and didn't report it to the authorities. I am highly doubtful that this can be anything other than realizing she's in over her head.
[QUOTE=Helix Snake;47254010]I think this might actually be a sign of the possibility of Wu de-radicalizing.[/QUOTE] I still wouldn't get anywhere near her, even if she extends an olive branch. I don't (and I don't think anyone should) trust her at all.
Apparently a certain patron is losing money ,Holy shit I dont like talking aboutthis person but the complete 180 pulled by the social justice crowd over coffee and a couple tweets is insane.Has full McIntosh commented he blocked me a while back and I am too lazy to circumvent.
Brianna Wu is losing money? Oh shit. Also I wonder how AGG is going to react to her game on PC when it comes out...if it comes out.
"Yeah so there's this guy who's been a vocal supporter of this huge hate group that has been harrassing and sending me death threats for months, he's a pretty cool guy" The narrative is leaking again [QUOTE=Helix Snake;47254010]I think this might actually be a sign of the possibility of Wu de-radicalizing.[/QUOTE] I don't think wu is techically a radical, she's just batshit insane and extremely gullible. A [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot"]useful idiot[/URL] that radicals didn't hesitate to throw under the bus once things weren't going the way they expected. I don't expect anything to change, she'll keep spreading the usual bullshit, but this constant habit the other side has of antagonizing each other can only benfit us
Jesus, is this really going to fuck her up that much? If this doesn't show the world just how fucking batshit insane AGG is, nothing will.
[QUOTE=JesseR92;47254162]Apparently a certain patron is losing money ,Holy shit I dont like talking aboutthis person but the complete 180 pulled by the social justice crowd over coffee and a couple tweets is insane.Has full McIntosh commented he blocked me a while back and I am too lazy to circumvent.[/QUOTE] I just checked her Patreon on the wayback machine, I don't think she is losing money, since it's been at 3k since Feb. The only time it was giant enough to be considered a loss was in Jan when she was at 13k, but I think that was a glitch since that was around the time they introduced the new TOS.
yeah this wu drama is pretty fucking delicious. i know its e-celeb drama but at its core its anti-gg cult mentality forcing anti-gg into eating itself. eventually everyone on that side will be divided. this shit couldn't be easier.
Another thing to keep in mind any of the central members of the SJW horde knows where some bodies are buried and exactly what skeletons are in the closet ,this could blow up spectacularly.
The sooner they disperse and no longer cooperate with one another, the sooner people can start talking about ethics more as the dramalords that create the drama's megaphones dies.
I think Anita isn't a bad person like Brianna Wu or any AGG, I think she is caught up in this and is AGG of course, but not full blown like she acts, I think that is Macintosh's doing and that really upsets me. I am sure she is a lovely person but since Macintosh is making her spout bullshit, I don't think anyone will really give a damn about her true personality. I wish Macintosh would fuck off.
[QUOTE=Xonax;47254402]I think Anita isn't a bad person like Brianna Wu or any AGG, I think she is caught up in this and is AGG of course, but not full blown like she acts, I think that is Macintosh's doing and that really upsets me. I am sure she is a lovely person but since Macintosh is making her spout bullshit, I don't think anyone will really give a damn about her true personality. I wish Macintosh would fuck off.[/QUOTE]Sarkeesian is as lovely as a guy trying to sell water to a thirsty man lost in the Sahara by the shot glass. [editline]3rd March 2015[/editline] She's as good as the people writing her check tell her to be.
Wu finally being able to see through the bullshit would be absolutely unreal.
Wu already apologized for her words on /r/GamerGhazi.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;47254413]Sarkeesian is as lovely as a guy trying to sell water to a thirsty man lost in the Sahara by the shot glass. [editline]3rd March 2015[/editline] She's as good as the people writing her check tell her to be.[/QUOTE] And Macintosh is pouring salt into the said water
[QUOTE=Xonax;47254402]I think Anita isn't a bad person like Brianna Wu or any AGG, I think she is caught up in this and is AGG of course, but not full blown like she acts, I think that is Macintosh's doing and that really upsets me. I am sure she is a lovely person but since Macintosh is making her spout bullshit, I don't think anyone will really give a damn about her true personality. I wish Macintosh would fuck off.[/QUOTE] Sarkeesian is a liar and a con, and that was well before she met joshinjosh. The babe in the woods narrative does not apply to anyone in AGG, period, fullstop. They understand what they're doing, and it isn't to help anyone but themselves and their agenda.
[QUOTE=Monkah;47254849]Wu already apologized for her words on /r/GamerGhazi.[/QUOTE] One of the mods responded and offered to pay someone money to find evidence that is was KotakuInAction who was shitting on Wu on twitter and GamerGhazi. [QUOTE]please, please show me where people from our own sub were legitimately “crucifying” wu or telling her she is a bad person who isn’t allowed to do what she wants. because if you’re going to tell me that ghazi is becoming just like gamergate, I expect you to help me find where this is happening so it can be stopped. if you’re just going to make general claims that “ghazi is acting just like gamergate” without reporting these incidents to the mods or giving us some links to where it’s happening, I have no reason to believe you. as I’ve had to say time and time again to the certain users that continue to recite these claims, mods are not infallible and it’s completely unreasonable to expect us to have a tab open for every submission here so we can constantly refresh the thread and catch comments that should be here. if you’re going to say that ghazi is going to shit, but aren’t willing to help us find where the shit is and scrub it out, you’re the problem.[/QUOTE] They also deleted comments of people who responded in the thread, so that's probably why people don't report stuff like this.
Iam8Bit continues to be shit [url]https://archive.today/Q9GNC[/url]
[QUOTE=Ziron;47251689]One thing I've learned from all of this Gamergate stuff is that medieval Europe was just as racially diverse as your average American city circa 2015 ([url]https://archive.today/dWVsq[/url]). White Americans have opened my eyes and showed me the truth about those Yurops and their ultra-racist ways. Incidentally, I've also learned the term "Amerisplaining".[/QUOTE] Wait, so the article argues that there could be PoC in 16th century denmark because they traded with spain and spain had Black/Arab etc people? But that's bullshit, just because they had a trade relation that doesn't mean that they would be able to settle there. Europe had connections with the Ottomans, that doesn't mean that there were turkish people in the HRE. Hell, by extension, europe had connection with china through the silk road. This is a really dumb argument, europe was a pretty xenophobic place in the 16th century, it was fueled by the hatred/fear towards the Ottoman empire, not to mention the religious tensions. The few times PoC got into europe and rose to prominent positions, it was documented pretty well, there is that samurai, Hasekura Tsunenaga, who went to the Vatican in the 16th century. Isn't Ophelia of noble blood? I can't imagine that a nobleman/woman would mingle that much with traders, and then father/mother a non-bastard child. [quote]We decided that Ophelia's mother, now deceased, could easily have been descended from a line of Spanish-African women; she would have come to Denmark as a servant, part of another (Hapsburg) character's retinue. She then married into her husband Polonius's family line, giving Ophelia a higher social status.[/quote] This is so dumb, why would the Hapsburgs, one of the most prominent and important noble families of that time allow a marriage like that. These are the same Hapsburgs who were so crazy about purity of blood that they were really into incest to preserve the bloodline. Or if not through marriage, they wouldn't legitimize a bastard child into the fucking Hapsburg line. They could've easily said, well it's my game and I took artistic liberties. Instead no, they tried to explain it, because they used Google Scholar, they're right. There is a point to be made about white-washing in popular culture, she's right about Noah being white in Noah's ark being realyl retarded, but this entire article just approached this entire problem from the wrong direciton. I'm sorry I know this is pretty off topic but people saying really dumb shit about history really pisses me off and I have to vent it out, you could say I was [sp]triggered[/sp]
Gawker To Be Penalized By New ‘Fact-Based’ Search Algorithm, Says Google [URL="https://archive.today/XoXL4"]https://archive.today/XoXL4[/URL] [QUOTE]Under the classic search results system, Gawker ranks in the top 15 percent of Google search results. Under Knowledge-Based Trust — which has yet to go live — Gawker falls to the bottom 50 percent of Knowledge-Based Trust scored websites, according to the report.[/QUOTE] get fugged
[QUOTE=Rockeiro123;47252895][...] -Christina sommers' talk at UCLA being boycotted by activist group, by way of missileading letter[citation needed] [URL="https://twitter.com/CHSommers/status/572841732158693376"]https://twitter.com/CHSommers/status/572841732158693376[/URL] [URL="https://twitter.com/pebonilla/status/572855504390639618"]https://twitter.com/pebonilla/status/572855504390639618[/URL] [...][/QUOTE] Here's the full thing: [url]https://archive.today/KVKwW[/url] As usual someone archived it so I just had to apply the bookmarklet directly on the link. [editline]4th March 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Te Great Skeeve;47253707]It won't be the end of Brianna's ramblings or people listening to her, even if it was, they would just adopt a new public figure or bring up past instances. However it's my belief they need a public figure to function, because without any remarkable instances they can't claim anything that hasn't already been reported; therefore their opposition could freely do what they want without the KiA need of defending themselves. The only thing I am noticing is more radicals getting louder and moderates moving towards neutrality or non-activism. Which is better, because the more radicals the less they will be paid attention too beyond their social scope or common internet hangouts.[/QUOTE] r/GamerGhazi is already pretty much deserted because they banned all the reasonable people :v: I really can't imagine any sane person looking at that subreddit now and thinking "Hey, I want to support this!".
[QUOTE=Hidole555;47255427]Gawker To Be Penalized By New ‘Fact-Based’ Search Algorithm, Says Google [URL="https://archive.today/XoXL4"]https://archive.today/XoXL4[/URL] get fugged[/QUOTE] oh that's fact system is going to be exploited quickly, spread a big enough lie and it get's checked to be true, have the truth which isn't the norm and it's easily slandered as a lie. It's like a key to heaven trying to give benefits to an exploited system, which is the same key to hell because it can be exploited.
[QUOTE=JesseR92;47254162]Apparently a certain patron is losing money ,Holy shit I dont like talking aboutthis person but the complete 180 pulled by the social justice crowd over coffee and a couple tweets is insane.Has full McIntosh commented he blocked me a while back and I am too lazy to circumvent.[/QUOTE] It's negligible so far, about 30$/month. [editline]4th March 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Xonax;47254234]I just checked her Patreon on the wayback machine, I don't think she is losing money, since it's been at 3k since Feb. The only time it was giant enough to be considered a loss was in Jan when she was at 13k, but I think that was a glitch since that was around the time they introduced the new TOS.[/QUOTE] It wasn't really, someone just felt the need to donate 10k$ to her in one go. [editline]4th March 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Hidole555;47255427]Gawker To Be Penalized By New ‘Fact-Based’ Search Algorithm, Says Google [URL="https://archive.today/XoXL4"]https://archive.today/XoXL4[/URL] get fugged[/QUOTE] Slightly creepy because it "normalizes visible history", but I suppose it's less bad than misinformation bubbles all over the place. They really need to make sure to use verifiable facts though. Aside from that, I hope they'll release an API. I want to see what certain websites lie about and what they don't.
[url]https://archive.today/aVtDX[/url] It's happening.
And in a cult-like fashion, the one that spoke blasphemy is immediately shunned and hated.
[QUOTE=Banned?;47247089]...is he talking in circles?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Anomander;47247229]He reminds me of a politician. Able to talk for ages without really saying anything.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=LtKyle2;47251817]wtf is he even saying. Do these people go to college to learn how to speak smart without actually being smart. "Cultural critics" wtf is this shit.[/QUOTE] Guys, I'm no McIntosh fan, but you're basically using your own ignorance of critical theory to mock him. All he's saying, in his usual wordy bullshit way, is that a cultural critic cares about what a work means in the context of society, not its internal logic. If, say, Hollywood was only producing war movies, a cultural critic might say that women are under-represented in the film industry. Not because he feels there should be women storming the beaches at D-Day, but because the industry is only producing a certain kind of film that only features men, and so men are disproportionately represented. It's up to the critic to then go somewhere with this analysis, and it doesn't have to be 'this is bad and misogynistic', that's just what the extremists conclude. The point he's making is that 'but it's about D-Day, of course there are no women' is fundamentally misunderstanding the criticism, his criticism is about the industry as a whole and using individual games is to point out examples indicative of a trend, not try to hold them all accountable to unreasonable standards. This is a pretty established kind of criticism in film, it's not all SJW nonsense, even though it's a tool they abuse. The vast majority of cultural critics are really not as insane as McIntosh and his ilk might lead you to believe, even industry stalwarts like Roger Ebert have used this lens to talk about films.
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