• Corruption in Gaming Journalism Discussion V2 - Back from the dead!
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[QUOTE=Te Great Skeeve;47266852]That was a very aggressive tweet, obviously some staff members have very conflicting opinions.[/QUOTE] I think they saw there was confusion about their last tweet, deleted it, and made it very clear. I think they've had the same stance / meaning from the start, it just wasn't clear. Basically Google gave control of one of their twitter accounts related to cloud storage to a SJW intern.
Schafer is [I]way[/I] to famous for his own good it seems. [URL="https://www.google.com/alerts?s=AB2Xq4hgjNk6kg9AJpqZcU8O_vcuJzIl85FfV0A&start=1425583172&end=1425586746&source=alertsmail&hl=de&gl=US&msgid=MTk5Mzg3ODQ3NjA5MDExOTgx#2:0"]I just got 33 mentions in my mail with more than half about his "jokes" :v:[/URL] I'll try to pick a few highlights... [url=http://www.gamebreaker.tv/news-main/tim-schafer-gamergate-sock-puppet-jokes/]Double Fine’s Tim Schafer Incites Wrath From The Gaming Community After #GamerGate Sock Puppet Jokes[/url] Clickbait site manages to generalize again, but cites tons of pro-GG tweets and links to the gamergate.me wiki [url=http://wiki.gamergate.me/index.php/NotYourShield]for context[/url]. [url=http://thegg.net/general-news/tim-schafer-and-the-gdc-2015-sockpuppet-scandal/]This blog posts has a few quotes from prominent GG people.[/url] ... Well, that was disappointing. The rest are just forum discussions (NeoGAF practically banned it :v:) and automatic trend archival sites. At least all the (semi-)proper articles I've seen so far were taking a neutral stance.
Wow I went to search Tim on twitter and it autocorrected to "Tim Schafer Racist" without me ever having typed that before.
[QUOTE=Teddybeer;47266883]The series also made the problems it wanted to adress look worse than it already was in reality. It's also mainly aimed to get used in classrooms later on with some study package that will be provided.[/QUOTE] The whole point of the series is to be sensationalist in order for more donations. It's the same as the crazy anti-abortion/gay stuff you see in come from American conservative Christians; it's made to scare your pants off so you donate in order to defeat the evil monster plaguing whatever and save the day. Antia offers something that looks like a soluation, but all she does is tell you that misogyny demons lurk behind every door and her supporters have exposed that the demons have nefarious supporers in the form of neckbeard fedora-wearers that want to undermine the world of gaming because they are evil as well. Donate now and you'll be able to fight off the demons, make gaming a better place AND you don't have to do anything except interrupt masturbating to candid images of your female co-workers feet for a few minutes to log onto your Paypal account. She won't tell you what she's going to do exactly, but damn it feels good to fight off the misogyny demons.
[QUOTE=thrawn2787;47266879]I think they saw there was confusion about their last tweet, deleted it, and made it very clear. I think they've had the same stance / meaning from the start, it just wasn't clear. Basically Google gave control of one of their twitter accounts related to cloud storage to [B]a SJW intern[/B].[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=tweet]The future of gaming is in all of our hands. #GamerGate [IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20218574/B_XjekHWQAAiwHk.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] Look closely at both hands. If anything, this is a Mark Kern "let's come together and make peace" neutral message if not a pro-GG one, but it's hard to tell because Google nuked it immediately and issued a "we have no stance on this issue" boilerplate to avoid getting their PR dragged into controversy they don't need to care about. [QUOTE=Teddybeer;47266883]It's also mainly aimed to get used in classrooms later on with some study package that will be provided.[/QUOTE] The footage plagiarism is particularly ironic, there. And, as mentioned, it presents no solutions or alternatives.
It was most certainty not a "no stance on this issue" [quote]Our last tweet was a mistake. Google supports an open, diverse gaming community for all. We do not support #GamerGate.[/quote] [URL]https://twitter.com/googlecloud/status/573653208251260930[/URL]
The lengths that some AGG'ers go to defend Tim Schafer's joke, "saying NYS is a puppet of #GG isn't offensive" like fucking really, REALLY? Jesus fucking Christ.
[QUOTE=Te Great Skeeve;47266938]It was most certainty not a "no stance on this issue" [url]https://twitter.com/googlecloud/status/573653208251260930[/url][/QUOTE] That's not the same as "We denounce #Gamergate". It's "the last tweet our account sent may have seem to have picked a side; we do not support sides in this. We support gaming for everyone." Which is as neutral and hand-toweling as you can get after a rogue employee sets off a potential PR shitstorm with an unauthorized tweet. They're being broadly inclusive as a way of getting out of having to establish a position in any direction.
[QUOTE=Teddybeer;47266883]The series also made the problems it wanted to adress look worse than it already was in reality. It's also mainly aimed to get used in classrooms later on with some study package that will be provided.[/QUOTE] I could go get some chick pregnant, have and raise that kid, and see him graduate college before Anita ever releases that classroom package.
[QUOTE=Te Great Skeeve;47266938]It was most certainty not a "no stance on this issue" [URL]https://twitter.com/googlecloud/status/573653208251260930[/URL][/QUOTE] It was. They tweeted something that could be interpreted as pro-gg and then simply corrected themselves. They haven't tweeted anything anti-gg.
[QUOTE=JesterUK;47266953]It was. They tweeted something that could be interpreted as pro-gg and then simply corrected themselves. They haven't tweeted anything anti-gg.[/QUOTE] Now if only aGG could realize this instead of thinking Google is aGG.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/dV5wcT8.png[/IMG] Remember, Gamergate is about oppressing and edging out minorities, kids. I learned that in my Anita Sarkeesian Official Justice Squad Handbook™. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/A9RJWOF.png[/IMG] I'll take "crippling lack of self-awareness" for $400, Alex.
Methinks that Gareth is the one losing their shit, not the GGers.
We need a picture of Schafer and the sockpuppet with "Actually, it's about sexism in the gaming industry" written on it
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;47266933]Look closely at both hands. If anything, this is a Mark Kern "let's come together and make peace" neutral message if not a pro-GG one, but it's hard to tell because Google nuked it immediately and issued a "[B]we have no stance [/B]on this issue" boilerplate to avoid getting their PR dragged into controversy they don't need to care about. [/QUOTE] They said they were anti-GG Saying "we support these ideals and not this group" does rather imply "this group does not support these ideals". Aka we think GG is anti-diversity and we're anti-GG.
I'm glad gamergate managed to last this long, just long enough to draw out the actual racism and sexism on the other side that they seem to call us out on so much. I'm proud of everyone for making it this far. I think Projection Theory may hold water, at this point :v:
Leigh "Drunken Megaphone" Alexander leaves gamasutra and makes a SJW site [url]http://recode.net/2015/03/05/gamergate-critic-leigh-alexander-to-found-new-website-for-women-and-minority-gamers/[/url]
Let's delegate women and minority gamers to their own site, what a progressive idea!
[QUOTE=Wii60;47267223]Leigh "Drunken Megaphone" Alexander leaves gamasutra and makes a SJW site [URL]http://recode.net/2015/03/05/gamergate-critic-leigh-alexander-to-found-new-website-for-women-and-minority-gamers/[/URL][/QUOTE] Watch as someone like Oliver Campbell (well, maybe not Oliver, he wouldn't go near the site) volunteers to be a writer and gets promptly denied.
[QUOTE=Wii60;47267223]Leigh "Drunken Megaphone" Alexander leaves gamasutra and makes a SJW site [url]http://recode.net/2015/03/05/gamergate-critic-leigh-alexander-to-found-new-website-for-women-and-minority-gamers/[/url][/QUOTE] I bet after a few months of growth, it'll decline to the point where the only writers will be Leigh Alexander, Jack Daniels, and Samuel Adams.
The SJW crowd really do think the industry will abandon gamers in favor of their incredibly exclusionary and downright abusive clique.
[QUOTE=JesseR92;47267296]The SJW crowd really do think the industry will abandon gamers in favor of their incredibly exclusionary and downright abusive clique.[/QUOTE] They're living in a reality distortion field and interpret silence to mean support. They really have a hard lesson in confirmation bias coming over the horizon.
[QUOTE=JesseR92;47267296]The SJW crowd really do think the industry will abandon gamers in favor of their incredibly exclusionary and downright abusive clique.[/QUOTE] If the industry did that, they know they would lose tons of customers since a lot of people would just find other stuff to do since Games wouldn't be as fun due to all the stuff SJW wants and don't want in a game. Maybe we would go outside for the first time since 1985
I'll be honest, when I saw the Google support, I was stoked for a moment-- then it was gone. For fuck's sake, that's one of the biggest letdown's throughout the entirety of GamerGate.
Guys, what if Schafer was actually a closet gamer this whole time? Think about it, he acts AGG, gets all buddy-buddy with peoples, secures a position at an awards show where he will be able to make very public statements, and then says stuff intentionally bad from the guise of an AGGer, to discredit them? Took a dive, so to speak.
[url]https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2y30o2/gdcrant_this_years_gdc_wasdifferent/[/url] What a post. And the part about the Whos in VIP really piss me off. Them being anywhere in the same regard of literal video game GODS just makes me livid. [img]https://images.encyclopediadramatica.se/4/41/RAEG.png[/img] I mean, seriously. They've done absolute jack shit compared to Romero. Even Diakatana is ten times better then Depression Quest, and he didn't even have to throw actual depressed people under a bus. FUCK. But really, a good write up from a dev at GDC. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Meme face" - Craptasket))[/highlight]
I don't know if this is late or not. Just let me know and I'll snip. [url]http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sl29h3[/url]
Has Uwe Boll ever said anything about gamergate?
[QUOTE=Pteradactyl;47267418]Has Uwe Boll ever said anything about gamergate?[/QUOTE] It wouldn't surprise me if he was pro-GG for some reason.
[QUOTE=DuCT;47267348][url]https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2y30o2/gdcrant_this_years_gdc_wasdifferent/[/url] What a post. And the part about the Whos in VIP really piss me off. Them being anywhere in the same regard of literal video game GODS just makes me livid. [img]https://images.encyclopediadramatica.se/4/41/RAEG.png[/img I mean, seriously. They've done absolute jack shit compared to Romero. Even Diakatana is ten times better then Depression Quest, and he didn't even have to throw actual depressed people under a bus. FUCK. But really, a good write up from a dev at GDC.[/QUOTE] So Hey Ash, what'cha playing also made gamergate jokes....Why? How does Gamergate have to do with GDC? No seriously why? When I see GDC and Gamergate together, I think of those Rich assholes who laugh at poor people because they aren't rich. And besides, GAMERGATE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GDC, IT'S AN AWARD CEREMONY FOR GAMES, NOT FOR GAMERGATE.
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