• Corruption in Gaming Journalism Discussion V2 - Back from the dead!
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[QUOTE=Jamsponge;47282518]Honestly, I really couldn't care less whether characters are male or female. Zarya seems pretty cool and I love more diversity in body types- not because "blah oversexualisation!!!" but because it just seems like they've put some effort in. I'm sure it's feasible for a woman to look like that, and even if it's not, eh, it's a videogame. Think they could have dulled down the pink hair just a smidgeon, though.[/QUOTE] The pink hair is funny enough my biggest beef. The rest is just something I question.
[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;47282381]I'm still getting angry moments when people tell me that overly built women look beautiful and womanly. No they fucking not, if they are overly built in terms of muscle mass bulk, it means they have a fuckload of testosterone to help accomodate that, which means all their trait makes them look manly. I mean, [url=http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/03/05/article-2110301-1208114E000005DC-111_470x542.jpg]come[/url] [url=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/33/Nikki_Fuller.jpg]the fuck[/url] [url=http://toptenfeeds.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/renne-top-ten-female-bodybuilder.jpg]on.[/url][/QUOTE] I'll you're saying is "stop liking what I don't like". Some people like muscle bound women, some like stacked breasts, other like big butts. They cannot lie. There is no reason for you to become angry that someone else likes the way they look.
I thought the pink hair was stupid. A lot of the recolors I've seen looked better. That is about it.
I don't get why the gender of that character is such a big deal. I look at it and all I see is just a blatant heavy weapons guy ripoff. Wow, so much originality!~
team fortress 2 invented big russian people with guns
Only problem I have with Overwatch is everyone looks so... Dreamworks-y.
because the 2 year olds have to play video games too! lets make games safe. lets make all characters cozy and safe to look at so nobody will feel odd. Thank You Gaming Industry!
[QUOTE=AaronM202;47282192][t]http://i.cubeupload.com/IPP3Yn.jpg[/t] If this was her hair color and all you could see, would you think male or female?[/QUOTE] She reminds me of a JoJo character for some reason. I like it. Yare yare daze. [t]http://i.imgur.com/8Hnrt4h.png[/t]
[QUOTE=LeonS;47282738]because the 2 year olds have to play video games too! lets make games safe. lets make all characters cozy and safe to look at so nobody will feel odd. Thank You Gaming Industry![/QUOTE] I don't know if this is serious but I think Overwatch, overall (*rimshot*), looks pretty awesome. There is nothing wrong with a game that looks as cheerful or colorful as it does. It's way better than it coming out looking "generic gaming brown".
[QUOTE=Banned?;47282760]I don't know if this is serious but I think Overwatch, overall (*rimshot*), looks pretty awesome. There is nothing wrong with a game that looks as cheerful or colorful as it does. It's way better than it coming out looking "generic gaming brown".[/QUOTE] I think the aforementioned dreamworks-y cartoon look has become every bit as generic as brown 'n' bloom.
[QUOTE=Keitaro;47282585]I'll you're saying is "stop liking what I don't like". Some people like muscle bound women, some like stacked breasts, other like big butts. They cannot lie. There is no reason for you to become angry that someone else likes the way they look.[/QUOTE] I thought people were angry because, supposedly she was added in to "create diversity" (which I still haven't seen a source for). I don't care what someone looks like really, but if they were added in just to fill a quota that's pretty lame.
[QUOTE=BigPalooka;47282811]but if they were added in just to fill a quota that's pretty lame.[/QUOTE] I sometimes feel that quota's can be even more negative than lack of diversity. Partly because it means the character involved is artificially designed (by conditions, not by story), but also because it can feel like a bit of an insult.
[QUOTE=BigPalooka;47282811]I thought people were angry because, supposedly she was added in to "create diversity" (which I still haven't seen a source for). I don't care what someone looks like really, but if they were added in just to fill a quota that's pretty lame.[/QUOTE] Both reasons are retarded.
[QUOTE=BigPalooka;47282811]I thought people were angry because, supposedly she was added in to "create diversity" (which I still haven't seen a source for). I don't care what someone looks like really, but if they were added in just to fill a quota that's pretty lame.[/QUOTE] Whether or not she was added in for diversity doesn't really matter much to me, if she is a well thought-out character in terms of play-style and back story then that's good enough for me. Also, Dark raveN's response was he finds women with large muscle mass unattractive, not that the character was; though through extension we can assume the same will apply here.
[QUOTE=Steel & Iron;47282155]I've seen a lot of comments about the hair, and at least a few edits from /v/ [t]http://i.imgur.com/kYbLD7G.png[/t] [t]http://i.imgur.com/HyTkvZZ.jpg[/t] To me the Blizzard design crew wanted to appeal to the various body types that were discussed at the Q&A a while back and said "Well these people like colored hair and a different body type, let's do both to shut them up and make them customers." I don't have it on me but the bottom edit was posted on tumblr at least once and one the comments was "Haha, the pink hair scares them". So I would say that Blizzard appealed to the people they wanted on board for this game if people think it's a solid design choice.[/QUOTE] There was one edit I saw that looked quite nice. The boob armor was smoothed out, making it look a lot better.
[QUOTE=Banned?;47282760]I don't know if this is serious but I think Overwatch, overall (*rimshot*), looks pretty awesome. There is nothing wrong with a game that looks as cheerful or colorful as it does. It's way better than it coming out looking "generic gaming brown".[/QUOTE] i never said it looked bad either. i think it looks like what i described it. safe, fun and cozy. but blizzard have a knack for making their games this way. even the zerg in starcraft look more friendly now.
[QUOTE=Mingebox;47282806]I think the aforementioned dreamworks-y cartoon look has become every bit as generic as brown 'n' bloom.[/QUOTE] I don't really care if something looks relatively 'generic', as long as there's actually been some effort put into the artstyle. If something's based in reality, it will naturally have a slightly more muted palette than the Mushroom Kingdom. Taking that 'darker and grittier' trope too far is what led to the [B]EVERYTHING IS BROWN[/B] trend of the mid-2000s to early 10s. At the moment, things are diversifying again: games like Sunset Overdrive are putting a lot of colour into things whilst still looking somewhat like reality, whereas some other games like Assassin's Creed and the like are choosing to stay a bit more muted. In the meantime, games like TF2 and Overwatch are going with the cartoony aesthetic (which is certainly quite common in the F2P shooter genre but I haven't seen it go on much elsewhere), and some other games, mainly those in the indie market, are going back to the roots of gaming with pixellated, polygonal, or otherwise simplistic art. I genuinely don't see any of that as a bad thing; whether you're using '8-bit' or 8 billion particle effects, all I care about is that the game actually looks good and isn't too hard to understand at a glance. [editline]8th March 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=BigPalooka;47282811]I thought people were angry because, supposedly she was added in to "create diversity" (which I still haven't seen a source for). I don't care what someone looks like really, but if they were added in just to fill a quota that's pretty lame.[/QUOTE] It seems more likely that somebody just designed a cool-looking character and people were like "Let's use that". I'm not sure the 'MUH DIVERSITIES' crowd are all that big on Blizzard, considering WoW practically created the stereotype of which they're so fond.
What would it take to have developers stop talking with Kotaku and Polygon?
[QUOTE=Zerfenus;47282877]What would it take to have developers stop talking with Kotaku and Polygon?[/QUOTE] That Kotaku and Polygon continue doing what they're currently doing. And one point even AAA publishers and developers are gonna be fed up.
That character's design is so painfully 2010s it hurts. It's going to be comcially dated once fashion trends shift, like characters with glam rock hair or mullets in media from the 80s are.
[QUOTE=Ziron;47282966]That character's design is so painfully 2010s it hurts. It's going to be comcially dated once fashion trends shift, like characters with glam rock hair or mullets in media from the 80s are.[/QUOTE] And it won't matter, because Activision-Blizzard would have hopefully cashed the check by then. They don't care if people don't like it, they just want people to purchase their product.
[QUOTE=Steel & Iron;47282981]And it won't matter, because Activision-Blizzard would have hopefully cashed the check by then. They don't care if people don't like it, they just want people to purchase their product.[/QUOTE] Yeah, but it's still going to be good to laugh at 10 years from now when that look becomes unfashionable or unrebellious.
Female Devs being hounded out the industry? Well say hello to all the [I]obviously[/I] hounded out of the industry female developers at Ubisoft Montreal. [url]https://twitter.com/UbisoftMTL/status/574593237219995650[/url]
[QUOTE=RayvenQ;47283031]Female Devs being hounded out the industry? Well say hello to all the [I]obviously[/I] hounded out of the industry female developers at Ubisoft Montreal. [url]https://twitter.com/UbisoftMTL/status/574593237219995650[/url][/QUOTE] they've clearly just internalized misogyny
[QUOTE=LeonS;47282857]i never said it looked bad either. i think it looks like what i described it. safe, fun and cozy. but blizzard have a knack for making their games this way. even the zerg in starcraft look more friendly now.[/QUOTE] Yeah...at least on the topic of the Zerg it's because they went from something like "almost-Eldritch devouring horror of the universe" to "hey now they have leaders with personalities and shit and no one cares anymore".
KIA mod is experimenting on the people who follow it, putting verified tags on stuff that isn't verified [IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_m22yDVEAEaUgu.png[/IMG] icze4r is tryin to find out more about it [url]https://twitter.com/_icze4r[/url]
saw a gg is love tee on my facebook ads.
Icze4r's summary so far [IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_m_zW6WYAEt5TP.png[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Wii60;47283251]KIA mod is experimenting on the people who follow it, putting verified tags on stuff that isn't verified icze4r is tryin to find out more about it [URL]https://twitter.com/_icze4r[/URL][/QUOTE] Don't we just assume that the minor claims are going to be true because the vast majority of stuff is reputable info? A concept called TRUST?
You must be fucking delusional to think every single person is going to go out of their way to research anything they see, especially if they've been told someone who's supposed to be reliable already verified it. Idiots. (assuming it's true)
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