Corruption in Gaming Journalism Discussion V2 - Back from the dead!
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[QUOTE=Te Great Skeeve;46997151]Stoop pleeaase.
WE get it.
He/she said they aren't posting anymore.[/QUOTE]
and that was posted while I was writing that.
I'm not going to browse the thread in three windows to make sure i'm replying in time and in sync with everyone. like just look at the time stamps please, it's clear I wasn't trying to continue the conversation if you guys decided to end it while i was writing that.
oh boy ill read the gamergate
oops again people hijack it to talk about transsexual people oh boy this is exactly what i want to read about here
Okay, so anything going on that we can move onto to avoid that awkward conversation.
well if anyone wants to find a way to signal boost that techraptor article that would probably be a good way to get people to have a serious look at the issue.
[QUOTE=LeonS;46997160]oh boy ill read the gamergate
oops again people hijack it to talk about transsexual people oh boy this is exactly what i want to read about here[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry for starting this. I just meant to make a comment and the discussion kind of exploded a bit. Anyway, we've stopped talking about it now. Time to talk some more about corruption!
-actually, never mind, but its still kinda pointless to point out the obvious-
[url]http://techraptor.net/content/crash-override-network-not-saviour[/url]
Reposting that Techraptor article because it's important.
[QUOTE=LeonS;46997160]oh boy ill read the gamergate
oops again people hijack it to talk about transsexual people oh boy this is exactly what i want to read about here[/QUOTE]
One page and a half.
"HIJACKED."
Last time this happened was hundreds of pages ago.
[QUOTE=Jamsponge;46997171][url]http://techraptor.net/content/crash-override-network-not-saviour[/url]
Reposting that Techraptor article because it's important.[/QUOTE]
there has to be some way to get this article seen by more people. it's the evidence needed to show that CON is a giant con.
[QUOTE=Te Great Skeeve;46997178]One page and a half.
"HIJACKED."
Last time this happened was hundreds of pages ago.[/QUOTE]
As much I hesitated to reply before, these sorts of discussions are not why I subbed this thread.
[QUOTE=Te Great Skeeve;46997178]One page and a half.
"HIJACKED."
Last time this happened was hundreds of pages ago.[/QUOTE]
maybe stop getting so upset over a post i made
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;46997179]there has to be some way to get this article seen by more people. it's the evidence needed to show that CON is a giant con.[/QUOTE]
The only thing which comes to mind is a thunderclap or asking a larger news publication to investigate. I consider the latter to be unlikely though.
I promised on my tumblr I wouldn't post Gamergate stuff and instead focus on the lore I'm writing but...
[B]fuck it.[/B]
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;46997179]there has to be some way to get this article seen by more people. it's the evidence needed to show that CON is a giant con.[/QUOTE]
All you can do is crosslink. People will believe whatever they wish, even in direct contraindication to reality.
I won't tell anyone to sign a petition
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/emxPH2H.jpg[/IMG]
But you should totally sign this petition
Also why do these people say things like "Yuck" as if they were or are speaking to a 10 year old?
Move the gender stuff to a mass debate thread. This thread is for important things like how games shouldn't be fun.
To add to this gender shitstorm, I just want to say that I would really like some more studies done on how the brain works in this regards. In all honesty, gender dysphoria is a mental illness, and we really need to know more about it to be able to treat it better.
But to make an actual point for this thread, I've started posting some things on my FB (first was about the ABC piece, this time about Kuchera), and I been getting good responses from it (meaning no outright hate, neutrals are cool). But it's really hard to explain the whole situation to everyone who hasn't been online heavily for the past 4+ years. If GamerGate is chapter one, then I feel like I need 5 negative chapters just to frame GG in the correct light.
Looks like Milo's GG book just got some competition.
[QUOTE=Swilly;46997192]I promised on my tumblr I wouldn't post Gamergate stuff and instead focus on the lore I'm writing but...
[B]fuck it.[/B][/QUOTE]
You could make multiple ones, that's what I did to keep the reblog spam in check.
(Tumblr's way of handling that is so terrible though...)
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Here's TechRaptor's tweet: [url]https://twitter.com/TechRaptr/status/558670617147629568[/url]
Single tweets with lots of retweets are a bit more effective than just linking the article afaik.
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[URL="https://twitter.com/TechRaptr/status/558663055236947968"]Here's another one.[/URL]
Don't have a twitter, never saw the point.
Hell the tumblr was peer pressure that I just keep using because there's oodles of 40K and Battletech/Mechwarrior fan/official art.
Fucking game grumps don't support gamergate man... FUCK
What?
[QUOTE=Swilly;46997423]
Hell the tumblr was peer pressure that I just keep using because...[/QUOTE]
related to GG, what kind of peer pressure occurs on tumblr? I heard it's where some of the filth perpetuates.
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;46997496]Fucking game grumps don't support gamergate man... FUCK[/QUOTE]
I ain't even surprised. Ego is a... blissfully ignorant person.
Jon would have been a potential supporter due to his recent experiences with self-righteous dogpiling but he's off in NY having better things to do, so
[QUOTE=Ithon;46997510]related to GG, what kind of peer pressure occurs on tumblr? I heard it's where some of the filth perpetuates.[/QUOTE]
Tumblr is all tag based, so if you go into the normal nests and post shit to poke the hive they usually ignore it because it gets drowned out.
If you're like 4chan and get enough people to spam the hive with gas they start freaking out.
If you're alone and get in their line of sight expect shit that'd make 4channers to say 'What the FUck'.
However, there are several group run/moderated tumblrs that specifically soak up a lot of the ire from the tumblr's hypocritical insane bullshit side and mock them, giving the rest of tumblr a conduit and voice to denounce them.
Its beautiful, also if you're just in it for the art, [B]you'll never run into them.[/B] All of the self perpetuating filthy only perpetuates because of an insane amount of closed off tags and such.
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The batshit side also has notoriously thin skin about everything and also means [B]everything[/B] they say.
[QUOTE=Swilly;46997536]Tumblr is all tag based, so if you go into the normal nests and post shit to poke the hive they usually ignore it because it gets drowned out.
If you're like 4chan and get enough people to spam the hive with gas they start freaking out.
If you're alone and get in their line of sight expect shit that'd make 4channers to say 'What the FUck'.
However, there are several group run/moderated tumblrs that specifically soak up a lot of the ire from the tumblr's hypocritical insane bullshit side and mock them, giving the rest of tumblr a conduit and voice to denounce them.
Its beautiful, also if you're just in it for the art, [B]you'll never run into them.[/B] All of the self perpetuating filthy only perpetuates because of an insane amount of closed off tags and such.
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The batshit side also has notoriously thin skin about everything and also means [B]everything[/B] they say.[/QUOTE]
Back when there were porn tumblrs, one of the ones I saw had a two page argument because someone made a "joke making fun of rape". This was especially ironic because this porn tumblr had actual depictions of rape posted on it (one of the reasons I stopped visiting it).
The joke was "Make sure to carry PEPPER spray in case you're aSALTed"
If you need proof that Zoe is scamming people, look into RebelGameJam. Its coming soon! like really soon!
Never... but the website is still up to accept donations... to her PayPal account.
Its also weird how similar the two sites look, I know she made both that and CON, but you think she could have changed the colour scheme a little.
[QUOTE=SIRIUS;46997496]Fucking game grumps don't support gamergate man... FUCK[/QUOTE]
Egoraptor has kind of changed. There's a reason why the likes of 4chan 8chan now love jontron but fucking hate Ego when grumps started as them hating jontron as some nerd they didn't know and loved Ego.
[QUOTE=bigmansham;46997577]If you need proof that Zoe is scamming people, look into RebelGameJam. Its coming soon! like really soon!
Never... but the website is still up to accept donations... to her PayPal account.
Its also weird how similar the two sites look, I know she made both that and CON, but you think she could have changed the colour scheme a little.[/QUOTE]
Zoe Quinn is pretty much a hack. Her videogame was basically school project level of quality, and recieved attention due to very sketchy "networking" on her part. Had she been a proper professional, her game would be better, it would've been written about for reasons that don't include her fucking the writer, and she would not have capitalized on this debacle with these transparently opportunistic, money grabbing projects. She would've continued making god damned videogames.
Nothing about her was ever made relevant due to her work being high quality, only through back door bullshit and scandals.
I was trying to post earlier but my internet died,
where the hell is the source on "Gamegrumps don't support gamergate"
I saw a rumor on 8chan almost 3 months ago and that was it.
I'm 99% sure they wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole. Their fanbase is basically 50/50.
[QUOTE=Te Great Skeeve;46998167]I was trying to post earlier but my internet died,
where the hell is the source on "Gamegrumps don't support gamergate"
I saw a rumor on 8chan almost 3 months ago and that was it.
I'm 99% sure they wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole. Their fanbase is basically 50/50.[/QUOTE]I don't know specifically, but I do remember in that first week or so that Arin came out basically calling everyone who stood against Zoe or the journalists awful things. Don't know if anything has been said since however.
Also, seriously just realizing we've been fighting this for five months with no signs of stopping. No matter what anyone says, we've proven both resilient and determined. How many other movements like this can say they've hold fast for this long?
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