Corruption in Gaming Journalism Discussion V2 - Back from the dead!
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[QUOTE=Wii60;47016772]sarkeesian is the key to all this
if we can get her working, because shes a funnier character than we ever had[/QUOTE]
[video=youtube;0248pUAteWk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0248pUAteWk[/video]
So does anyone know what this #GamergateNeutral hashtag is? I am seeing Gamergaters use it on twitter as well as anti-GG.
How can someone even stop or fight pure ignorance?
I think the best George quote to apply to this [sp]and pretty much anything[/sp] is
[quote]I may have gone too far... in a few places...[/quote]
[QUOTE=Fangz;47016801]So does anyone know what this #GamergateNeutral hashtag is? I am seeing Gamergaters use it on twitter as well as anti-GG.[/QUOTE]
someone who supports gamergate but doesn't like the anti-SJW slant made it
its up to you to use it but gamergate in general doesn't want to use it.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;47016814]How can someone even stop or fight pure ignorance?[/QUOTE]
By shining a light into the darkness.
[QUOTE=CoolKingKaso;47016687]I don't think that the writer is a moron[/QUOTE]
Oh believe me he is
This is the guy that went to KiA saying that GG wasn't about ethics because nobody pointed out that the first guy to review his game later provided the music.
He basically threw the reviewer under the bus except the reviewer DID actually disclose it in the piece he wrote AFTER he was offered to provide the music for the game.
He's a textbook example on how to fail as an indie dev, he said he would refuse to give a steam copy of the game to GG supporters who got the game on desura, desura told him that they would never allow that and he removed the game from the website. I think he decided not to release on steam and now is making wild accusations against the biggest (?) review channel on youtube.
Guy's a genious I tell you
[QUOTE=thrawn2787;47016874]I think the best George quote to apply to this [sp]and pretty much anything[/sp] is[/QUOTE]
Clearly we've passed the point where we should have stopped in the first place
but let's keep going and see what happens anyway!
[QUOTE=itisjuly;47016814]How can someone even stop or fight pure ignorance?[/QUOTE]
It's much easier to deal with in real life if your charismatic enough / good enough speaker, but on the internet there is a serious disconnect between a writer and his audience. Without a living, breathing person in front of them they can dehumanize all they want until their beliefs are justified on ad hominem alone.
[editline]26th January 2015[/editline]
I've convinced my fair share of AGG'ers on my campus after some talk (18 and counting!). People do listen, but you need to have them empathize with you before anything else - which I can tell you doesn't work on the internet :v:
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:NorthBySouthBaranof[/url]
[quote]A project which punishes editors for defending the good names and reputations of living people from vicious Internet trolls does not deserve to survive.[/quote]
To the salt mines he goes. His talk page is wiped too.
What amazing qualifications he had. (from the [url=http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FUser%3ANorthBySouthBaranof&oq=cache%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FUser%3ANorthBySouthBaranof&ie=UTF-8&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i58.3112j0j4&sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.84349003,d.bGQ&biw=1280&bih=963&dpr=1&ech=1&psi=0WnGVP6_Fsf5ywOsq4HYDg.1422289362227.3&ei=0WnGVP6_Fsf5ywOsq4HYDg&emsg=NCSR&noj=1]last cache of his profile)[/url][quote]This user has a Master of Science degree in Recreation. This user has a Bachelor of Science degree in Journalism.[/quote]
His departure for the mines was due to changes in his topic ban's counts. [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/GamerGate/Proposed_decision#NorthBySouthBaranof_topic-banned[/url]. Assuming nobody changes their mind, his ass is grass.
Bonus round: Did you know that NorthBySouthBaranof is his third time around on wikipedia? [url=http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2s427l/hostile_wikipedia_editor_northbysouthbaranof_was/cnlzwtc]Here's a link to /r/kotakuinaction to explain more[/url]
Well off to that wiki nobody reads for them I guess.
They will be back in the form of either new accounts or using other users to edit.
I mean, it'd be easy, they have all the reason to do it and I am sure wouldn't be below doing it.
P.S hes doing it because the topic ban went through (previously it had little chance)
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oh no
no no no no not yogscast
please stay out of it for the love of god why
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I , personally, actually liked them. Nobody else did sure but I felt connected since I watched them before minecraft.
They have been doing a lot of shady things lately though.. I guess it's time to unsubscribe, or something.
I'm staying with sips though, you can't disconnect me from sips!
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What I am referring too
[url]http://i.imgur.com/x0sdVVv.png[/url]
What, what did Yogscast do?
[editline]26th January 2015[/editline]
oh.
[url]http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2tr8jr/the_most_unlikely_conflict_yet_yogscast_simon_vs/[/url]
Funnily enough, TotalBiscuit and the Yogscast played with eachother at one point, which makes it even more saddening.
[QUOTE=EmperorVagak;47017577]What, what did Yogscast do?
[editline]26th January 2015[/editline]
oh.
[URL]http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2tr8jr/the_most_unlikely_conflict_yet_yogscast_simon_vs/[/URL]
Funnily enough, TotalBiscuit and the Yogscast played with eachother at one point, which makes it even more saddening.[/QUOTE]
Basically they want to get back at totalbiscut for calling them out on disclosure shit on their videos.. which it was obvious they were being paid, but the unity thing when they played it, and completely lied about it in the video (Which made me pissed off.) This is basically the last straw, their series were becoming stale but to stoop this low just because they can't admit to their mistakes.
It makes me realize that in all their videos, they are just playing characters. I knew it, but it becomes real when stuff like this happens.
Jontron on entertainment combined with politics. (This was a little while ago but even more relevant.)
[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf7i0z2Zi7U&feature=youtu.be&t=1h25m34s[/URL]
.. Also feminism.
[quote]An articulate summing up of the issues I have with Anitas videos. I didnt even pick up on the Rhapsody example the first time watching that particular video, but it's a good one, it does really seem like it wasnt properly researched.
It's very much a case of "I support the cause of diversity in games in general, I just dont think you're going about it the right way and it might be possible that the amount of vitriol you are drumming up with some of your more spurious claims might be actually harming the overall push because it creates a fear in developers that if they "do it wrong" they will be chastised".
You can support diversity in games without supporting Anita Sarkeesians videos. Hoenstly I really dont know anyone who is AGAINST diverse characters. Neutral to the notion maybe, vast majority of gamers I would imagine simply dont care what race or gender the character they are playing is, but AGAINST? Where are those people? Where are the people saying "No we absolutely do NOT want more diverse characters in videogames. We absolutely DO want badly written 1-dimensional tropey characters in all of our games!". Do these people even exist? If they do are they anything more than a tiny vocal minority?•[/quote]
[QUOTE=Gray Altoid;47017375][url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:NorthBySouthBaranof[/url]
To the salt mines he goes. His talk page is wiped too.
What amazing qualifications he had. (from the [url=http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FUser%3ANorthBySouthBaranof&oq=cache%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FUser%3ANorthBySouthBaranof&ie=UTF-8&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i58.3112j0j4&sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.84349003,d.bGQ&biw=1280&bih=963&dpr=1&ech=1&psi=0WnGVP6_Fsf5ywOsq4HYDg.1422289362227.3&ei=0WnGVP6_Fsf5ywOsq4HYDg&emsg=NCSR&noj=1]last cache of his profile)[/url]
His departure for the mines was due to changes in his topic ban's counts. [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/GamerGate/Proposed_decision#NorthBySouthBaranof_topic-banned[/url]. Assuming nobody changes their mind, his ass is grass.
Bonus round: Did you know that NorthBySouthBaranof is his third time around on wikipedia? [url=http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2s427l/hostile_wikipedia_editor_northbysouthbaranof_was/cnlzwtc]Here's a link to /r/kotakuinaction to explain more[/url][/QUOTE]
He's tremendously upset from not being allowed to edit a single article?
He'll be back soon, he's just exaggerating his anger.
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[QUOTE=Te Great Skeeve;47017598]Jontron on entertainment combined with politics. (This was a little while ago but even more relevant.)
[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf7i0z2Zi7U&feature=youtu.be&t=1h25m34s[/URL]
.. Also feminism.[/QUOTE]
It's logically-sound reasonable, but I feel that they're going to dismiss and misinterpret JonTron like they've done with TB.
"I'm all for inclusiveness and diversity, but I think that the press should become more transparent with their consumers to build trust with them. If devs have cheated their way to the top, I don't approve of it. If they haven't, I'm complacent."
"You support death threats, sexism, and harassment? I lost all respect for you, unsubbed! [name] supports harassment!"
[QUOTE=CoolKingKaso;47017618]He's tremendously upset from not being allowed to edit a single article?
He'll be back soon, he's just exaggerating his anger.
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It's reasonable, but I feel that they're going to dismiss and misinterpret JonTron like they've done with TB.[/QUOTE]
Already happened, it was last august.
[IMG]http://u.cubeupload.com/Coldmute/kGM3Mp.png[/IMG]
I lost a lot of interest and respect for NerdCubed for a while, but his handling of GamerGate has really brought a fair bit of that back. He's been pretty on point with everything he has said, especially talking in the early days and not being afraid to call out asshole journalists and other youtubers for their shit.
Free Science Guy as well since I couldn't be fucked to crop it out.
Well #ZeroBiscuit is a thing now:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4AKrUbOrOk[/media]
[QUOTE=Fangz;47017784]Well #ZeroBiscuit is a thing now:
[/QUOTE]
A hashtag derailed in no time flat. GG no re
Didnt we redirect an anti TB hashtag and used it to raise awareness of tuberculosis?
godlike witcher 3 critique from nathan grayson
[url]https://archive.today/RqSOW[/url]
[QUOTE]"Eh, it was a video game," I flippantly told a friend shortly after I got back from a recent Witcher 3: Wild Hunt preview event in San Francisco. "I don't know. It was alright, I guess."[/QUOTE]
And n
I love how they can't make a single hashtag against GamerGate that isn't either taken over immediately or dead on arrival.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;47017937]I love how they can't make a single hashtag against GamerGate that isn't either taken over immediately or dead on arrival.[/QUOTE]
It's almost like GG supporters outnumber the shitposters.
I like how TotalBiscuit's support has basically eclipsed all the other people they've had problems with. Nero, Internet Aristrocrat, King of Pol, any of them.
He's massive, more so than any of them could dream of being, and they know it. They know he has more reach and influence than they do, and it scares them, its that loss of control over the industry that they've feared. So they are trying to do everything they can to shut him down.
Maybe because TB isn't a fucking crazy person like IA, KoP, or any of them are. Who would have thought being a mentally stable human being gets people to like you?
It's funnier because the name "TotalBiscuit" sounds completely ridiculous too.
It doesn't sound like a leader, a role model, or someone who would be famous, and yet, there he is.
[QUOTE=EmperorVagak;47018166]It's funnier because the name "TotalBiscuit" sounds completely ridiculous too.
It doesn't sound like a leader, a role model, or someone who would be famous, and yet, there he is.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like Bane! (Which is ironic considering TotalBiscuit's last name is Bain :v:)
[t]https://i.imgur.com/YROP266.jpg[/t]
[t]https://i.imgur.com/PbyTm71.png[/t]
Quite a big guy!
hey we can derail the #zerobiscuit tag just get by crossing TB with F-Zero who know maybe we can get a new F-Zero game out of it with the raised awareness.
Peter coffin could be in trouble for potential welfare fraud.
According to a 8chan /cow/ Poster who has a PI on peter coffin (yet to be 100% verified but people have verified some of the post as fact so far ([URL="http://i.imgur.com/KZshFox.png"]his brothers for example[/URL])), he filed for food stamps and said he was single. If he's actually married he could be in major trouble with the law.
the posts go way more indepth involving his current living situation too.
[url]https://archive.today/5Uyru#selection-11810.29-11853.40[/url]
[QUOTE=Hypershadsy;47017837]A hashtag derailed in no time flat. GG no re[/QUOTE]
how did people ever thing they stood a chance against GG, it has a sort of smug "good game" right there in the initials
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food for anti-gg thought: start a hashtag that's #bg that will show us
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