• Corruption in Gaming Journalism Discussion V2 - Back from the dead!
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Coffin seems just like a leech trying to get attention off the issue I honestly never heard of him until the last couple pages of this thread.Also wouldnt applying for food stamps as single while married be idiotic you would get less then.
[QUOTE=JesseR92;47018301]Coffin seems just like a leech trying to get attention off the issue I honestly never heard of him until the last couple pages of this thread.Also wouldnt applying for food stamps as single while married be idiotic you would get less then.[/QUOTE] hes been in the gg scene for a bit, did a song about being [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ffZgq3yvB0"]beta as fuck[/URL] with the guy who made a song about sjws not taking away video games
[QUOTE=Wii60;47018309]hes been in the gg scene for a bit, did a song about being [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ffZgq3yvB0"]beta as fuck[/URL] with the guy who made a song about sjws not taking away video games[/QUOTE] That was cringey as all fuck .
[QUOTE=JesseR92;47018207]hey we can derail the #zerobiscuit tag just get by crossing TB with F-Zero who know maybe we can get a new F-Zero game out of it with the raised awareness.[/QUOTE] I'd go for Zero Suit Biscuit.
[QUOTE=EmperorVagak;47016745][url]http://www.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/2tkit3/a_timeline_of_gamergate_with_sources/[/url] GamerGhazi is making their own GG timeline.[/QUOTE] [quote]In a post Gjoni pretends to condemn the harassment [...][/quote] [quote=Eron Gjoni]I DO NOT STAND BY THE CURRENT ABUSE AND HARASSMENT OF ZOE QUINN OR FRIENDS. STOP DOING THAT. IT IS NOT IN ANYONE’S BEST INTEREST.[/quote] I'm not sure how you can publicly pretend to make a public statement. Someone please enlighten me in that regard :v: [editline]27th January 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=itisjuly;47016814]How can someone even stop or fight pure ignorance?[/QUOTE] I talked with someone about that yesterday/today for a bit. It's probably impossible for strangers, so the best you can do is discredit it.
Is there any evidence showing that Eron "spread" aka posted links on those sites? Not that it matters. Ghazi did a list of "devs who support gamergate" in November and I just saw it on 8chan.
[QUOTE=Tamschi;47018451]I'm not sure how you can publicly pretend to make a public statement. Someone please enlighten me in that regard :v: [/QUOTE] The same way you can publicly pretend to release a full series of videos on youtube (within a timely manner) critiquing how women are presented in video games.
[QUOTE=truckilles;47018507]Is there any evidence showing that Eron "spread" aka posted links on those sites? Not that it matters. Ghazi did a list of "devs who support gamergate" in November and I just saw it on 8chan.[/QUOTE] Eron did post in the 4chan thread, but it was because a person pointed it to him. He wasn't the OP nor did he have a link in any of his posts.
[QUOTE=JesseR92;47018207]hey we can derail the #zerobiscuit tag just get by crossing TB with F-Zero who know maybe we can get a new F-Zero game out of it with the raised awareness.[/QUOTE] I think it may be about malnutrition awareness already. [editline]27th January 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=truckilles;47018507]Is there any evidence showing that Eron "spread" aka posted links on those sites? Not that it matters. Ghazi did a list of "devs who support gamergate" in November and I just saw it on 8chan.[/QUOTE] Which sites? I'm fairly sure he linked to 8chan for example at some point later when discussing what they were doing, but he never linked to doxxing or anything similar as far as I can tell. [editline]27th January 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=residntevl;47018523]The same way you can publicly pretend to release a full series of videos on youtube (within a timely manner) critiquing how women are presented in video games.[/QUOTE] Fair point. I still am completely abhorred by the part of human nature that makes that possible.
[QUOTE=CoolKingKaso;47018636]Eron did post in the 4chan thread, but it was because a person pointed it to him. He wasn't the OP nor did he have a link in any of his posts.[/QUOTE] Yeah there's a huge difference between the 2 and I didn't expect ghazi to be honest about their claims, ergo the "not that it really matters".
[QUOTE=Thlis;47016441][B]DAVID GALLANT: For the Sake of the Industry: No More TotalBiscuit[/B] [URL]https://archive.today/M5Hre[/URL][/QUOTE] is he unable to not think about TB now too when he masturbates? [URL="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7yiKH_CEAAth0G.jpg:large"](for refrence)[/URL]
[QUOTE=Wii60;47018250][...] /cow/ [...][/QUOTE] This kind of stuff is funny, but he in particular is really a nobody who's so cringey that there's most likely no significant impact to his actions at all. If I want to hear about what some idiot does it's if they slander people but are hypocritical about it. Just digging up random corpses from someone's cellar without that person doing the same thing is somewhat shitty.
adam baldwin talked about GG again on a conservative podcast [url]https://s3.amazonaws.com/btr.shows/show/7/299/show_7299285.mp3[/url] discusses GG, Doxxing of liz, and the anti-adam petition. TL;DL summary: [url]http://pastebin.com/JC4nq6ft[/url]
[QUOTE=Swilly;47016702]Criticism isn't so much a dialogue with the person who created the media but more the critic and the media being critiqued having a conversation where the critic assumes things from it using different lenses. However, the conversation is there and its important to note that under different lenses you get different outcomes. Critical Theory involves using all of the lens to get a 'complete' picture of the form of media being critiqued. Anita Sarkesian(And by Anita I mean McIntosh), heavily uses the feminist lens to look at media and immediately she falters because there isn't an updated lens to examine media. The most up to date version you'll find is back from the 80s, infact a lot of feminist theory of recent heavily parrots the early 80s or is non-existent. If you look through recent texts, everything comes to a screeching halt at 81-82. There's a reason for that, the Sex Wars. After which most shit went to a screeching halt as the third wave started and Feminists starts arguing with themselves over what Feminism is. Its still going today.[/QUOTE] That's another one of my problems with Anita and the people that treat her videos as the truth; they act like there's only one "feminist" way to look at something, and if you disagree, you are a misogynist MRA neckbeard. Feminism is a very diverse topic with lots of different schools that interpret things differently. Trying to potray one school as just plain feminism is extremely stupid and shows how little they truly know about feminism, despite their hootin' and hollerin' about how they support women and how they're great feminists and all that type of talk. Again, it points to her "critiques" actually being about dictating what is right and wrong like a fundamentalist Christian. With criticsm, there always has to be some sort of avenue for discussion, whether it's a detailed responce or responcing with a short sentence to a Youtube video. The infamous Phantom Meanace critique never did things like insult you for liking Phantom Meanace or imply that you're irredamably fucked in the head if you liked it. Yeah, it tore the movie a new one, but it never said "If you like this movie in any capaicty you are a terrible person". Anita's videos imply that if you disagree with her, you're actually the one that has a problem because of subtle sexism ingrained in you. That's called "poisoning the well" and shutting down any sort of negative discussion about your critique. If your critiques include you saying "If you disagree with me you are actually a Bad Person", then congrats, you've killed the discussions that that are key to introducing new ideas and alternate view points that are crucial for criticism to thrive. Instead, you're made a giant circlejerk about how right you are.
[QUOTE=Comrade_Eko;47014427]What are your thoughts on Jim Sterling and Bob Chipman?[/QUOTE] Jim Sterling's problem is a matter of priorities: the press comes first, then consumers, then developers and publishers. It leads to double standards with anti-consumer practices. More importantly though, the integrity of the press should be the absolute lowest priority. If it's your highest, then there's something very wrong. Bob Chipman has serious issues. He's like the Mario version of Christian Weston Chandler circa 2008, not fit for journalism at all. I think he was aware that he needed to practice some self-restraint with his biases in order to look professional at first, and that got him far enough to land a job on Screwattack and later The Escapist. Being slightly popular inflated his ego to a ridiculous degree, making him believe he he had the authority to say whatever he wanted and be incredibly condescending about it.
[img]http://puu.sh/f3TRX/e31e9fc9d8.jpg[/img] I think this needs to be posted in this thread, too
[QUOTE=WhyNott;47020346][img]http://puu.sh/f3TRX/e31e9fc9d8.jpg[/img] I think this needs to be posted in this thread, too[/QUOTE] "Part of the solution"? Is it just a pledge to not commit sexual assault?
That seems like grasping at straw a bit to me,I mean they didn't come out a say all straight men will rape you or anything.
[QUOTE=JesseR92;47020373]That seems like grasping at straw a bit to me,I mean they didn't come out a say all straight men will rape you or anything.[/QUOTE] I was thinking more about the replies it's really fucked up
[QUOTE=WhyNott;47020346][img]http://puu.sh/f3TRX/e31e9fc9d8.jpg[/img] I think this needs to be posted in this thread, too[/QUOTE] I'd say this is more of an example of shitty people than anything to do with Gamergate. All we can really do is say that these people are non-representative and dickheads.
Well I can't not post this [quote]Looking at all the drama I'm surprised I'm the only one that took this calmly, advise for other people, move on. Wikipedia shouldn't be your only hobby, try not to think you have a personal mission to defend the goddesses from those vicious Internet terrorists. [[User:Loganmac|Loganmac]] ([[User talk:Loganmac|talk]]) 06:37, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[/quote] [img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8XsB7hCYAAY9Jz.jpg[/img]
Someone's a bit mad. :v:
If loganmac is a single user account. He's fucking Batman. [editline]27th January 2015[/editline] He's the hero that Wikipedia needed, but didn't deserve.
I could see the WMF taking some serious measures to change how their editors behave and how sources that spout bullshit like that are handled in the wake of all this. The ArbCom knows full well the reality and now knows exactly what GamerGate has faced from the media. I could see them getting the rules reworked so that shit doesn't fly, even if just to save their own asses, but it will help GamerGate none the less. [editline]27th January 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Swilly;47021132]If loganmac is a single user account. He's fucking Batman. [editline]27th January 2015[/editline] He's the hero that Wikipedia needed, but didn't deserve.[/QUOTE] He is 100% the hero Ryulong deserved however.
Looks like [url=http://techraptor.net/content/amid-aol-clean-gaming-site-joystiq-may-get-axe]Joystiq might be shutting down[/url].
the talk page is great [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/GamerGate/Statement[/url] [QUOTE]When it discusses the banning of editors, the Arbitration Committee statement is factually inaccurate. This was indeed a targeted anti-feminist series of bans. Please could we include the following reputable sources, and adjust the text of the statement to better represent the actual situation [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Wii60;47021435]the talk page is great [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/GamerGate/Statement[/url][/QUOTE] Whoever made that contribution to the talk page is completely delusional.
[QUOTE=G-Strogg;47021468]Whoever made that contribution to the talk page is completely delusional.[/QUOTE] at wikipedia, it's about verifiabilty, not truth! all those sources were claimed to be verified during the gamergate wiki edit wars, so why not?
How many of the Tbanned editors are even female? (Yes I know he says anti-feminist, but still)
[QUOTE=G-Strogg;47021511]How many of the Tbanned editors are even female? (Yes I know he says anti-feminist, but still)[/QUOTE] one female. but the verifiable articles say A bunch of feminist editors were banned so thats the actual truth.
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