Corruption in Gaming Journalism Discussion V2 - Back from the dead!
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[quote]> Peter Coffin is an educated, respected professional in the
> community. He has spent years serving the community and building a
> positive reputation. Peter Coffin has learned that you have engaged in
> spreading false, destructive, and defamatory rumors about [B]her[/B].
>
> Under Utah law, it is unlawful to engage in defamation of
> another’s character and reputation. Defamation consists of
>
> (1) a statement that tends to injure reputation;
> (2) communicated to another; and
> (3) that the speaker knew or should have known was false.
>
> Your defamatory statements involved multiple webpages on your
> website spreading false lies regarding Peter Coffin and [B]his[/B] family.[/quote]
0/10 Peter Coffin, please see me after class.
Since ryulong has increasingly been stirring up shit since his topic ban passed (he's been ranting on twitter and tried to edit the adland page because it didn't slander gamergate) his ban has now, for certain, passed, no "last choice" wikilegaleze necessary. its possible someone could move their vote before the conclusion but now he's on twitter doing this: [url]https://archive.today/TH60I[/url] so it seems unlikely.
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/GamerGate/Proposed_decision&oldid=644493624#Ryulong_banned[/url]
[QUOTE=Wii60;47025058]Peter Coffin sends bogus legal threat to 8chan
[url]http://www.crimeandfederalism.com/2015/01/peter-coffin-sends-bogus-legal-threat-to-8chan-.html[/url][/QUOTE]
I think it's a third party troll. I don't know any lawyers who use gmail addresses.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/9uwppjE.png[/img]
[editline]28th January 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=TomatoFlakes;47024425][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/6IvIA1q.png[/IMG]
I smell a photoshop comin' on[/QUOTE]
from 8chan
[img]http://i.imgur.com/Qvx2vYd.png[/img]
[QUOTE=Wii60;47025192]from 8chan[img]http://i.imgur.com/Qvx2vYd.png[/img][/QUOTE]
Nice, it got taken from this FP page then reposted as being from 8chan :V
Graham Linehan (Creator of the IT Crowd. Yes [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rksCTVFtjM4"]that IT crowd[/URL].) compares gamergate to the KKK
[url]https://twitter.com/Glinner/status/559990285049298944[/url]
[QUOTE]Journalists! Talking about 'bad apples' in gamergate is accepting a narrative. You might as well talk about 'bad apples' in the KKK[/QUOTE]
[editline]28th January 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=01271;47025236]Nice, it got taken from this FP page then reposted as being from 8chan :V[/QUOTE]
it was seriously from a 8chan post
[QUOTE=Wii60;47025271]
it was seriously from a 8chan post[/QUOTE]
It actually came here first, then 8Chan.
Source: Me :v:
its official video games are no longer a artform
[img]http://i.imgur.com/wEoOsm9.jpg[/img]
"bro-ification"
that's not what that means
A female MLG Player made it on Feminist Frequency's blog post about harrassment anita recieved
[url]https://twitter.com/OMGLove_/status/560194089061462016[/url]
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8Y1jQhIMAAUBV3.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Wii60;47025423]its official video games are no longer a artform
[img]http://i.imgur.com/wEoOsm9.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
You need an audience, more than the audience needs you. So you'd think that'd be incentive enough for good journalism, guess not. Or are you bloggers still? you flipflop between the two so much it's hard to tell.
[QUOTE=Wii60;47025423]its official video games are no longer a artform
[img]http://i.imgur.com/wEoOsm9.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
What kind of melodramatic "Wrong generation" bullshit is this?
If you think video games have been 'bro-ified', then... support games which you like? Buy the ones you want to play?
Just because a lot of video games are dumb fun doesn't mean that there isn't art to be found in them. Even AAA games like Portal 2 can have interesting stories and scarcely feature violence at all. If you think all video games are represented by Doritos, Mountain Dew and screaming about someone's mother on Xbox Live, you haven't played many video games.
oh god im scared to ask but what the holy hell is /lolcow?
Someone who opposed Gamergate apparently maced someone at a college fair, people had to leave because it got into the AC.
[url]http://8ch.net/gamergate/res/284686.html[/url]
[editline]28th January 2015[/editline]
So far, it seems believable given the evidence of chatlogs. It might end up on their school's newspaper sometime later.
Is it bad that I'm hoping it to be true?
Funny, but
A) Doesn't really help us in any way, one crazy individual doesn't and shouldn't be representative of the whole movement. Thought that was a pretty major point we were pushing.
B) Don't trust stuff like this blindly, wait for definitive verification.
[QUOTE=Wii60;47025464]A female MLG Player made it on Feminist Frequency's blog post about harrassment anita recieved
[url]https://twitter.com/OMGLove_/status/560194089061462016[/url]
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8Y1jQhIMAAUBV3.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
This is so fucking unreal but at this point nothing surprises me anymore
[QUOTE=NoOnE#235;47025905]Funny, but
A) Doesn't really help us in any way, one crazy individual doesn't and shouldn't be representative of the whole movement. Thought that was a pretty major point we were pushing.
B) Don't trust stuff like this blindly, wait for definitive verification.[/QUOTE]
Mainly it's funny. But if it were true, it's pretty much yet another counterargument to "you have terrible people supporting Gamergate" if anything.
[QUOTE=EmperorVagak;47025965]Mainly it's funny. But if it were true, it's pretty much yet another counterargument to "you have terrible people supporting Gamergate" if anything.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, this is the only use for the mountains of stupid hypocritical shit the opposition says and does, frankly. That and funnies but if they weren't trying to use guilt by association all that would be of no use to any arguments.
[QUOTE=Thlis;47024070]James Portnow of ExtraCredits just claimed the following at Magfest
[video=youtube;CbNHIYCV33o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbNHIYCV33o#t=694[/video]
TotalBiscuits response: [B]Extra Credits slander[/B]
[URL]http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1skam53[/URL][/QUOTE]
I have to watch this first, but from the summary I'm already in the mood for another "[This is despicable to the point where I don't want to support you in any way and here's why:]" like the one I sent to Wolfire.
(I'm a backer for their Extra History Patreon. I also wouldn't mind it one bit if they were against GG without resorting to false allegations.
This means that even if I give them a ton of benefit of the doubt regarding the "maliciousness vs. carelessness" question I'd very much like to see clarification on their part about what their priorities are.)
[QUOTE=Wii60;47025271]Graham Linehan (Creator of the IT Crowd. Yes [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rksCTVFtjM4"]that IT crowd[/URL].) compares gamergate to the KKK
[url]https://twitter.com/Glinner/status/559990285049298944[/url][/QUOTE]
One might think that the creator of a show called "IT Crowd" might have actual knowledge of nerd culture.
[QUOTE=Tamschi;47026303]I have to watch this first, but from the summary I'm already in the mood for another "[This is despicable to the point where I don't want to support you in any way and here's why:]" like the one I sent to Wolfire.
(I'm a backer for their Extra History Patreon. I also wouldn't mind it one bit if they were against GG without resorting to false allegations.
This means that even if I give them a ton of benefit of the doubt regarding the "maliciousness vs. carelessness" question I'd very much like to see clarification on their part about what their priorities are.)[/QUOTE]
Wait what did Wolfire do?
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[QUOTE=Kljunas;47026377]Wait what did Wolfire do?[/QUOTE]
I'm going to keep this brief because even talking about it now makes my blood boil and he's the reason I got involved with GG. He said so much stupid shit that's difficult to summarize. I know other people who post here actually talked to him back then.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/I0Pq44P.png[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/CLoNoXw.png[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/5SWaLHz.png[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/AXjVMx1.png[/img]
First of all AB didn't create shit, he just gave a name to the movement and people decided to go with it
Literally guilt by association, TB never said anything about AB and for him that's proof that TB and everyone in GG agrees with anything he says. Icing on the cake, while wolfire was lashing out against him on twitter saying his silence was proof of his endorsement, TB was undergoing chemotherapy
And unsurprisingly, guess where he's from?
[img]http://i.imgur.com/t6s7wgS.png[/img]
Also worth mentioning that in htat Jonestown article, it mentions how the church itself based its headquarters in San Francisco :v:
[QUOTE=NoOnE#235;47025905]Funny, but
A) Doesn't really help us in any way, one crazy individual doesn't and shouldn't be representative of the whole movement. Thought that was a pretty major point we were pushing.
B) Don't trust stuff like this blindly, wait for definitive verification.[/QUOTE]
No, but you see, we [I]can [/I]associate one crazy individual with their movement, because they're the only ones pushing that guilt by association. Either they take the blame for every nutjob and hypocritical scumbag in their ranks, of which there are many, or they have to finding a new argument besides "but mean neckbeards on the internet!"
[QUOTE=Mingebox;47026616]No, but you see, we [I]can [/I]associate one crazy individual with their movement, because they're the only ones pushing that guilt by association. Either they take the blame for every nutjob and hypocritical scumbag in their ranks, of which there are many, or they have to finding a new argument besides "but mean neckbeards on the internet!"[/QUOTE]
Or maybe a "rise above" mentality would be more constructive in persuading moderates? You should know that actually arguing with the hardcores won't do anything.
Uh, not sure of what to feel about being called a moron by the creater of one of my favourite TV shows:
[url]https://twitter.com/Glinner/status/560421415552577536[/url]
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