Corruption in Gaming Journalism Discussion V2 - Back from the dead!
5,003 replies, posted
[QUOTE=truckilles;47134269]Molyneux comments irked me but I get the feeling that same sort of hard hitting journalism is uncommon and that highlights the problem. They will never remark to Sarkeesian about why she asked for less than $10k for videos, raised 10x that and hasn't delivered on half the videos proposed never mind the full set.[/QUOTE]
Peter Molyneux: No, I didn’t say absolutely we’d be there, I said we’d try to finish it on this time. And why are you beating me up on these dates things? You sound like a publisher.
RPS: It’s three years later! People gave you half a million pounds and you’ve taken their money–
If only they could hold their friends this accountable.
[QUOTE=01271;47134338]Peter Molyneux: No, I didn’t say absolutely we’d be there, I said we’d try to finish it on this time. And why are you beating me up on these dates things? You sound like a publisher.
RPS: It’s three years later! People gave you half a million pounds and you’ve taken their money–
If only they could hold their friends this accountable.[/QUOTE]
What's that?
The sound of hypocrisy.
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9vdxlHCUAA684_.jpg[/IMG]
on steam
lvl 1 = you own 1 game (f2p games don't count)
lvl 0 = you own nothing
rev 60 manipulating the greenlight
[QUOTE=Wii60;47134462]
lvl 1 = you own 1 game (f2p games don't count)
lvl 0 = you own nothing
rev 60 manipulating the greenlight[/QUOTE]
Pretty sure lv0 can also just mean the account is private
[URL="https://twitter.com/reddchanit/status/566317176664367104/photo/1"]Escapist's finally rid of Moviebob.[/URL] Not sure if he was fired or decided to go the way of Jim Sterling, but but god riddance either way.
[QUOTE=Wii60;47134462][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9vdxlHCUAA684_.jpg[/IMG]
on steam
lvl 1 = you own 1 game (f2p games don't count)
lvl 0 = you own nothing
rev 60 manipulating the greenlight[/QUOTE]
no.
level 1 means you own nothing or one game. level 0 means your account is private.
[QUOTE=Te Great Skeeve;47134132]RPS has an "interview" - instead it devolves to attacking Peter Molyneux.[/QUOTE]
This interviewer feels like he's some kind of detective doing an interrogation. "Do you think that you’re a pathological liar?", for Christ's sake, get a hold of yourself.
And then they'll gloss over Broken Age going through similar issues. For fuck's sake, if you have to be an asshole, at least try to be consistent about it.
[QUOTE=TheJoey;47134522]no.
level 1 means you own nothing or one game. level 0 means your account is private.[/QUOTE]
it rises the first flag of the account being a throw away account
it rises a second and biggest flag if the account is using a community avatar
[QUOTE=_Axel;47134674]This interviewer feels like he's some kind of detective doing an interrogation. "Do you think that you’re a pathological liar?", for Christ's sake, get a hold of yourself.
And then they'll gloss over Broken Age going through similar issues. For fuck's sake, if you have to be an asshole, at least try to be consistent about it.[/QUOTE]
I don't mind them scrutinizing people, I just wish they would do it to everyone. Nothing and no one should be sacred.
[QUOTE=e_k_M;47134923]it rises the first flag of the account being a throw away account
it rises a second and biggest flag if the account is using a community avatar[/QUOTE]
Hay, I use a community avatar
or at least used to, for like 4 years
[QUOTE=Wii60;47134462][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9vdxlHCUAA684_.jpg[/IMG]
on steam
lvl 1 = you own 1 game (f2p games don't count)
lvl 0 = you own nothing
rev 60 manipulating the greenlight[/QUOTE]
Even if you have a game you can still have lvl 0 (I appear to have some trade bot item scammer thing on my friends list that applies to).
I think Molyneux handled himself well in that interview and if anything I gained respect for him, managing to live through such a blatant character assassination like that. Because that is what that was, a fucking attempt to make Molyneux look like a horrible old man with no idea of what he's doing. And as everyone else is mentioning, we would never see them give this kind of interview to Schafer or Anita (and they wouldn't accept it either), just goes to show what lengths Molyneux can defend himself.
[IMG]https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t34.0-12/10968173_748806718528485_1576264994_n.jpg?oh=64b992da243206696bc2cff52d2dbef9&oe=54E0B86F&__gda__=1424019407_3d411cb371b3967d4eea21f2f33a2547[/IMG]
And if that happens, we'll just have to keep reminding them.
[QUOTE=Hidole555;47131420]good lord, they're now ahead of /a/ and they went and bombed /co/
[t]http://i.imgur.com/ZR9iHG8.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]
and now they've snowballed ahead of /tech/, making them the 5th largest board on 8chan, behind only /v/, /pol/, /gamergate/, and /b/
it- it just doesn't stop
[QUOTE=Hidole555;47135678]and now they've snowballed ahead of /tech/, making them the 5th largest board on 8chan, behind only /v/, /pol/, /gamergate/, and /b/
it- it just doesn't stop[/QUOTE]
[I]Listed[/I] board. We all know who else is up there :v:
(Do unlisted boards qualify for the wacky races, or are they already in because they were still listed at that point?)
[QUOTE=Wii60;47134462][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9vdxlHCUAA684_.jpg[/IMG]
on steam
lvl 1 = you own 1 game (f2p games don't count)
lvl 0 = you own nothing
rev 60 manipulating the greenlight[/QUOTE]
This means nothing really, there are a lot of people who will defend the game because of the publicity around the author and there's no reason not to believe those accounts weren't made by independent random clueless people who just went "Why not help out a bit".
Who cares about rev 60
[QUOTE=Xenomoose;47135313][IMG]https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t34.0-12/10968173_748806718528485_1576264994_n.jpg?oh=64b992da243206696bc2cff52d2dbef9&oe=54E0B86F&__gda__=1424019407_3d411cb371b3967d4eea21f2f33a2547[/IMG]
And if that happens, we'll just have to keep reminding them.[/QUOTE]
These people had months to admit they were wrong. It is too late now. Never let them live this down.
[QUOTE=Wii60;4713446]
on steam
lvl 1 = you own 1 game (f2p games don't count)
lvl 0 = you own nothing
rev 60 manipulating the greenlight[/QUOTE]
To get level 1 all you would need to do is complete 14 tasks from the community tasks which would aware you 100 XP sufficient to reach at least level 1. Of the 26 possible tasks I think ~20 are achievable without owning any games or without any kind of outside help
(edit) Tried this out and I'm wrong. Level 0 with 100XP will not promote to level 1 without owning at least 1 game. Note that private accounts do not reflect a level at all, not merely level 0.
neogaf civil war soon.
mod kicked off neogaf mod team for a debate over if being attracted to transexuals is ok or transphobic
[url]http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=151944617&postcount=1708[/url]
SJW's angry and having a giant shitstorm, getting banned by the dozen
Transgender thread closed, guy closes "black culture" thread too but another mod re-opened it without his permission
[QUOTE=Wii60;47136018]neogaf civil war soon.
mod kicked off neogaf mod team for a debate over if being attracted to transexuals is ok or transphobic
[url]http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=151944617&postcount=1708[/url]
SJW's angry and having a giant shitstorm, getting banned by the dozen
Transgender thread closed, guy closes "black culture" thread too but another mod re-opened it without his permission[/QUOTE]
i was about to post about this but i wasnt sure if it was gamergate related...
[QUOTE=FlakAttack;47135892]These people had months to admit they were wrong. It is too late now. Never let them live this down.[/QUOTE]
Alexander has no business in journalism or gaming, at all, ever; period.
Same for anyone else who went out of their way to get someone fired or cost someone an interview based on personal spite or in her case, being a racist, classist sexist hatebag.
If she wants to start up a hatemonger website, good for her. She has no business in any creative endeavor otherwise.
[QUOTE=TheJoey;47136053]i was about to post about this but i wasnt sure if it was gamergate related...[/QUOTE]
neogaf has been involved in gamergate events (Boogie2988 being banned, Early Gamergate stuff, etc.)
[QUOTE=27X;47136072]Alexander has no business in journalism or gaming, at all, ever; period.
Same for anyone else who went out of their to get someone fired or cost someone an interview based on personal spite or in her case, being a racist, classist sexist hatebag.
If she wants to start up a hatemonger website, good for her. She has no business in any creative endeavor otherwise.[/QUOTE]
I think the only thing she should be involved in is an AA meeting.
[quote]neogaf civil war soon.
mod kicked off neogaf mod team for a debate over if being attracted to transexuals is ok or transphobic
[url]http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost...postcount=1708[/url]
SJW's angry and having a giant shitstorm, getting banned by the dozen
Transgender thread closed, guy closes "black culture" thread too but another mod re-opened it without his permission[/quote]
This is how a formally great gaming forum dies; not through declining readership, but because of a civil war caused by a niche social issue.
It'll live. Conspiracy and content collection.
I don't think it's very relatable to corruption in games journalism anyways, it's just a forum.
[QUOTE=Ziron;47136301]This is how a formally great gaming forum dies; not through declining readership, but because of a civil war caused by a niche social issue.[/QUOTE]
Then how the hell is Facepunch still here????
[QUOTE=Te Great Skeeve;47136381]It'll live. Conspiracy and content collection.
I don't think it's very relatable to corruption in games journalism anyways, it's just a forum.[/QUOTE]
I mean it'll "live", but does that really mean much?
[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;47136414]Then how the hell is Facepunch still here????[/QUOTE]
Because we got rid of whackos like TH89 and MaxofS2D.
[QUOTE=Tetsmega;47136638]Because we got rid of whackos like TH89 and MaxofS2D.[/QUOTE]
MaxofS2D is gone? Damn, last time I was on FP he was busy trying to find reasons to ban people who had opinions and stances he didn't like.
Randi harper is preparing Another autoblocker by making a secret group called the "Amala Network"
[url]http://www.reddit.com/r/KiAChatroom/comments/2v6mt5/what_is_the_amala_network/cofdp8f[/url]
[QUOTE]Amala Network is Randi Harpers organization that will soon be publishing a general purpose social media blocker program which is a much improved version of the ggautoblocker. The software is not specifically made to only block GamerGaters, but the initial release will focus on doing just that. In addition to computing a blocklist (like the old ggautoblocker) it uses sophisticated heuristics, semantic recognition and natural language processing to identify "undesirables".
The "four minutes" thing mentioned on Ghazi is to test (and improve) the blocker algorithms. You are shown two tweets, side by side, one written by a GamerGater (confirmed by a human, not the software) and one unrelated. You're asked to identify the GamerGater tweet. You are shown 20 pairs of tweets and then you are shown your score compared to the algorithm. I correctly identified 19/20 and the algorithm identified 16/20. I'm told the goal is to increase the accuracy to at least 85% before release alpha release. Edit: The public release is aiming for 97% or better.
Yes, the way it was "advertised" on Ghazi was a lame attempt to make some gullible people think there were clandestine operations going on, similar to the #Solution6 thing GamerGate did, but reality is far less sinister and less interesting.
Edit and update: The software will be open source (MIT) and (I'm told - I haven't personally seen the code) provides a simple API so sites like Twitter, Facebook, Reddit etc can easily integrate it into their services. The idea is to totally transform social media sites and forums from "public park" spaces where everyone is free to interact with each other to a more gated and private system where you are, if you chose so, only able to interact with like-minded and similar people. Think of it like email spam filtering - once you've trained the system how to identify people and groups you wish to make invisible you won't ever see anything from them again.[/QUOTE]
la li lu le lo
Sorry, you need to Log In to post a reply to this thread.