Metal Megathread (the thread to house all your glam-death hardcore satanic flame wars)

[Gmod4ever]

[QUOTE=IAmAnooB;28474411]Wanted to share this awesome song by Kingdom Of Sorrow:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEM66EHuo_Y[/media][/QUOTE]

Now that's a god-damn sexy riff.

:gizz:

[ThePutty]

[QUOTE=Gmod4ever;28470589]I am pretty certain that [b]I[/b] can safely say that you haven't [b]listened[/b] to modern metal if you honestly think that.

What all "modern" bands have you listened to, perchance?[/QUOTE]

you know honestly, the stuff I hear always seems to lack something, like recieving a pizza and there's a few slices missing when you get it

please, do try to prove me wrong though with some sort of amazing modern metal that doesn't have drop Z and doesn't sound BRUUUUUUTALLL with chugging and gravel vocals

oh and no progressive crap that has 5 minute intros

[mynames2long]

[QUOTE=ThePutty;28474679]you know honestly, the stuff I hear always seems to lack something, like recieving a pizza and there's a few slices missing when you get it

please, do try to prove me wrong though with some sort of amazing modern metal that doesn't have drop Z and doesn't sound BRUUUUUUTALLL with chugging and gravel vocals

oh and no progressive crap that has 5 minute intros[/QUOTE]

Modern in what sense? Liike, made in the modern day, or with a modern take, not just the same old thing?

[Franke_R!?]

[QUOTE=ThePutty;28474679]you know honestly, the stuff I hear always seems to lack something, like recieving a pizza and there's a few slices missing when you get it

please, do try to prove me wrong though with some sort of amazing modern metal that doesn't have drop Z and doesn't sound BRUUUUUUTALLL with chugging and gravel vocals

oh and no progressive crap that has 5 minute intros[/QUOTE]

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBUXvM_KfHc&feature=channel_video_title[/media]

Awww yeaaaah.
You might not like it but I like it and that is what counts.

[Gmod4ever]

[QUOTE=ThePutty;28474679]you know honestly, the stuff I hear always seems to lack something, like recieving a pizza and there's a few slices missing when you get it

please, do try to prove me wrong though with some sort of amazing modern metal that doesn't have drop Z and doesn't sound BRUUUUUUTALLL with chugging and gravel vocals

oh and no progressive crap that has 5 minute intros[/QUOTE]

Well now you're making it difficult for me because I listen to primarily melodic death metal, in regards to "gravel" voices, which I assume you mean harshes and gravelly tones. I'll see what I can find, though.

These aren't the best examples, but they're the best I can think of off the top of my head. I hope someone helps me out here lol. There are some harshes in some of these songs, but for the most part they're clean. Listen to at least the first minute of each one before you make a judgment.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmslk0coiRk[/media]

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDlm0OzjTHI[/media]

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOBcedsst34[/media]

[Franke_R!?]

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7KVZrKf2rY&feature=channel_video_title[/media]

No harsh vocals in this whole song and the instruments are tuned to drop G# if I am not mistaken.

And some motherfucking Textures up in this bitch for a good example of great metal.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSYNhfkNGco[/media]

Both Periphery and Textures are great examples of modern metal without too much wankery and with great vocals.

[ThePutty]

See, the problem with all of those songs, besides the last two which don't even sound like metal, is that they're the same. There's nothing unique about them, it's really just the same sort of thing repeated and you get this generic feeling from it

I honestly haven't heard any modern metal that makes me go holy shit this is awesome and doesn't sound like every other metal band people recommend to me

but fuck it if I can't find anything I'll stick with older stuff that's always good

[Kalkka]

you need a tissue or what

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C3ohHAOIIQ[/media]

this one never fails to amaze

[404 Not Found]

Well there isn't really much that is genuinely unique cause most metal/rock bands consist of:

Vocals
Bass
1-3 Guitars
Drums

You can only do so much with them until things start to sound similar (or like blatant copies)

[ThePutty]

[QUOTE=Kalkka;28475697]you need a tissue or what

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C3ohHAOIIQ[/media]

this one never fails to amaze[/QUOTE]

yes i need a tissue

also song is terrible

[Kalkka]

wowoowow you better fucking take that back

[ThePutty]

that's just like, my opinion man

[mynames2long]

Putty I think your problem is that you're not listening for stuff that sounds good, you're listening to stuff that sounds familiar

[editline]7th March 2011[/editline]

Also you did not answer my question

[ThePutty]

[QUOTE=mynames2long;28476082]Putty I think your problem is that you're not listening for stuff that sounds good, you're listening to stuff that sounds familiar

[editline]7th March 2011[/editline]

Also you did not answer my question[/QUOTE]

Modern day, I'd probably say. and no I'm listening for stuff that sounds good to me which does not include stuff that's repetitive and predictable

[Kalkka]

what artists for example

[ThePutty]

[QUOTE=Kalkka;28476185]what artists for example[/QUOTE]

no idea, that's why I'm asking :v:

[Gmod4ever]

[QUOTE=ThePutty;28475557]See, the problem with all of those songs, besides the last two which don't even sound like metal, is that they're the same. There's nothing unique about them, it's really just the same sort of thing repeated and you get this generic feeling from it

I honestly haven't heard any modern metal that makes me go holy shit this is awesome and doesn't sound like every other metal band people recommend to me

but fuck it if I can't find anything I'll stick with older stuff that's always good[/QUOTE]

Sounds like you're stuck to listening to old things because you want to.

The only reason you think they sound the same is because they came after the first generation of metal bands. If they didn't sound the same, then by definition they wouldn't be metal.

The only reason, I think, why you wouldn't think these older bands don't "sound the same" is because there is nothing to "sound the same" to before them. They are the first generation, the generation on which later generations were built upon.

In fact, I would go so far as to postulate that the primary reason you think these modern bands sound the same is [b]because[/b] you listen to the first generation - you hear the influences all these modern bands have taken from the first generation, and you find the influences in common.

For example, Bands A, B, C, and D all have taken influence from Iron Maiden, a first generation metal band. While, to someone who has never listened to Iron Maiden much, Bands A, B, C, and D may sound entirely different, because you've listened to Iron Maiden and you recognize every element of their music, you detect an Iron Maiden influence that each of these bands have, and it makes you automatically draw similarities between them because of the shared influence.

So while they may not sound the same [b]amongst[/b] themselves, they do sound similar (in influence) to Iron Maiden - and from there, it's not hard to cross the gap and say that they sound similar to each other by way of said influence.

That's my current hypothesis anyways. :colbert:

[editline]Note[/editline]

This isn't geared towards you explicitly, Putty, but I think it's more an overarching rule that applies to [b]all[/b] the people who listen to the oldies and assert that modern music "all sounds the same."

[Longy]

Well, I need to say goodbye to Metal for a while now. I have 17 prog rock bands I'm going to listen to, and I'm already hooked to the first one.

[ThePutty]

[QUOTE=Gmod4ever;28476277]Sounds like you're stuck to listening to old things because you want to.

The only reason you think they sound the same is because they came after the first generation of metal bands. If they didn't sound the same, then by definition they wouldn't be metal.

The only reason, I think, why you wouldn't think these older bands don't "sound the same" is because there is nothing to "sound the same" to before them. They are the first generation, the generation on which later generations were built upon.

In fact, I would go so far as to postulate that the primary reason you think these modern bands sound the same is [b]because[/b] you listen to the first generation - you hear the influences all these modern bands have taken from the first generation, and you find the influences in common.

For example, Bands A, B, C, and D all have taken influence from Iron Maiden, a first generation metal band. While, to someone who has never listened to Iron Maiden much, Bands A, B, C, and D may sound entirely different, because you've listened to Iron Maiden and you recognize every element of their music, you detect an Iron Maiden influence that each of these bands have, and it makes you automatically draw similarities between them because of the shared influence.

So while they may not sound the same [b]amongst[/b] themselves, they do sound similar (in influence) to Iron Maiden - and from there, it's not hard to cross the gap and say that they sound similar to each other by way of said influence.

That's my current hypothesis anyways. :colbert:

[editline]Note[/editline]

This isn't geared towards you explicitly, Putty, but I think it's more an overarching rule that applies to [b]all[/b] the people who listen to the oldies and assert that modern music "all sounds the same."[/QUOTE]

no I don't care whether they sound or don't sound like older bands, it's the fact that the bands I'm being recommended are just generic drop D chug bands that I'm tired of hearing, and it just lacks energy and devotion to me which is my main problem

It's the fact that it's NOT original that makes me not like it

adding onto that I should mention that I don't expect every band to be original and new and fresh but shit, at least give your own style or touch or take on it, rather then sounding like everybody else

[Hakita]

[QUOTE=kirderf;28476428]Well, I need to say goodbye to Metal for a while now. I have 17 prog rock bands I'm going to listen to, and I'm already hooked to the first one.[/QUOTE]
Why can't you listen to both metal and prog rock?

[Gmod4ever]

[QUOTE=ThePutty;28476498]no I don't care whether they sound or don't sound like older bands, it's the fact that the bands I'm being recommended are just generic drop D chug bands that I'm tired of hearing, and it just lacks energy and devotion to me which is my main problem

It's the fact that it's NOT original that makes me not like it

adding onto that I should mention that I don't expect every band to be original and new and fresh but shit, at least give your own style or touch or take on it, rather then sounding like everybody else[/QUOTE]

Well you're making it pretty damn difficult to fulfill your requests. I have lots of bands that aren't "generic drop D chug bands" but they use harsh vocals, which you don't want. You also said you don't want progressive metal, which specializes in not being "generic Drop D chug bands." And I'm pretty certain your opinion of power metal, which [b]also[/b] specializes in not being "drop D chug" isn't that high, either. All that's really left, then, is thrash metal - and the only thrash I listen to uses harsh vocals, like Kreator.

I don't really know what you want, man.

[Kalkka]

here's some Enslaved, i know you'll hate it but whatever

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ddes3psWpg4[/media]

[ThePutty]

[QUOTE=Gmod4ever;28476738]Well you're making it pretty damn difficult to fulfill your requests. I have lots of bands that aren't "generic drop D chug bands" but they use harsh vocals, which you don't want. You also said you don't want progressive metal, which specializes in not being "generic Drop D chug bands."

I don't really know what you want, man.[/QUOTE]

Honestly, neither do I. Go ahead and post your bands that have harsh vocals and progressive metal anyway, who knows, I might like it

[Vedicardi]

[QUOTE=Gmod4ever;28476738]Well you're making it pretty damn difficult to fulfill your requests. I have lots of bands that aren't "generic drop D chug bands" but they use harsh vocals, which you don't want. You also said you don't want progressive metal, which specializes in not being "generic Drop D chug bands." And I'm pretty certain your opinion of power metal, which [b]also[/b] specializes in not being "drop D chug" isn't that high, either. All that's really left, then, is thrash metal - and the only thrash I listen to uses harsh vocals, like Kreator.

I don't really know what you want, man.[/QUOTE]

Are you serious? You only listen to death meta, nu metal, prog metal, power metal, and thrash metal? There are plenty of other genres out there.
Also Kreator barely fucking uses "harsh" vocals. He's clearly talking about cannibal corpse type shit. He listens to Coroner after all

[editline]7th March 2011[/editline]

[QUOTE=Kalkka;28475877]wowoowow you better fucking take that back[/QUOTE]

it's not that great of a song. Just keyboards blaring over a guy mumbling

[editline]7th March 2011[/editline]

[QUOTE=Gmod4ever;28476277]Sounds like you're stuck to listening to old things because you want to.

The only reason you think they sound the same is because they came after the first generation of metal bands. If they didn't sound the same, then by definition they wouldn't be metal.

The only reason, I think, why you wouldn't think these older bands don't "sound the same" is because there is nothing to "sound the same" to before them. They are the first generation, the generation on which later generations were built upon.

In fact, I would go so far as to postulate that the primary reason you think these modern bands sound the same is [b]because[/b] you listen to the first generation - you hear the influences all these modern bands have taken from the first generation, and you find the influences in common.

For example, Bands A, B, C, and D all have taken influence from Iron Maiden, a first generation metal band. While, to someone who has never listened to Iron Maiden much, Bands A, B, C, and D may sound entirely different, because you've listened to Iron Maiden and you recognize every element of their music, you detect an Iron Maiden influence that each of these bands have, and it makes you automatically draw similarities between them because of the shared influence.

So while they may not sound the same [b]amongst[/b] themselves, they do sound similar (in influence) to Iron Maiden - and from there, it's not hard to cross the gap and say that they sound similar to each other by way of said influence.

That's my current hypothesis anyways. :colbert:

[editline]Note[/editline]

This isn't geared towards you explicitly, Putty, but I think it's more an overarching rule that applies to [b]all[/b] the people who listen to the oldies and assert that modern music "all sounds the same."[/QUOTE]

couldn't be more wrong here. should I pick this one apart or not, what do you say, kids?
I mean the most clear point I can make here is putty was saying "all modern bands sound the same when you compare them to each other" or at least that was what he meant. he didn't mean compared to older bands

[editline]7th March 2011[/editline]

[QUOTE=AugustBurnsRed;28475745]Well there isn't really much that is genuinely unique cause most metal/rock bands consist of:

Vocals
Bass
1-3 Guitars
Drums

You can only do so much with them until things start to sound similar (or like blatant copies)[/QUOTE]

that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard

[ThePutty]

[QUOTE=Vedicardi;28476902]I mean the most clear point I can make here is putty was saying "all modern bands sound the same when you compare them to each other" or at least that was what he meant. he didn't mean compared to older bands[/QUOTE]

yeah, mostly. i was attempting to see if anybody could get me started off on modern metal bands that don't sound pretty much like everything else, and then I'll be right to try and find some more by myself

[Gmod4ever]

[QUOTE=ThePutty;28476768]Honestly, neither do I. Go ahead and post your bands that have harsh vocals and progressive metal anyway, who knows, I might like it[/QUOTE]

Okay. :v:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lT0RkbIihGA&feature=related[/media]

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6_2BtmD7Eg[/media]

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2irEdUJux08[/media]

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WweFoegfwog[/media]

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6knGCuQfrU[/media]

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DlWQr8wYvY[/media]

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-pfppHjJwI[/media]

If you consider all these bands (again, at least a minute of each) to be "generic drop D chug bands," then I don't know any bands that aren't similar to one of these bands.

[editline]7th March 2011[/editline]

[QUOTE=ThePutty;28477153]yeah, mostly. i was attempting to see if anybody could get me started off on modern metal bands that don't sound pretty much like everything else, and then I'll be right to try and find some more by myself[/QUOTE]

So I misinterpreted what Putty said. Fucking sue me, Vedicardi. You can't deny there are a lot of people who go "herf derf all modern metal sucks the classics are the best herf derf."

And I didn't say [b]only[/b], Vedicardi. I said [b]primarily[/b]. There is a big difference between music I like and music I listen to. There are very few bands I can say with honesty I don't like, but that doesn't mean I listen to them every day. I listen to primarily (which is not [b]only[/b]) metal as background music while doing things because it's the hardest to get tired of.

I listen to music while I'm working to block off the rest of the world, so I can stay focused on what I'm doing. Otherwise I'm a bit ADD and everything distracts me. Metal's "wall of sound" is very effective in doing that, while also being interesting and giving something my overactive mind to focus on while I do other things. Most other music doesn't really work that well for that.

[Franke_R!?]

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O7rItcfJPs[/media]

This certainly is not generic metal.

And neither is the below video.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSKVTnUIpik[/media]

[Gmod4ever]

Diablo Swing Orchestra are pretty cool. I love them, but I don't listen to them much. :v:

[Vedicardi]

[QUOTE=ThePutty;28475557]See, the problem with all of those songs, besides the last two which don't even sound like metal, is that they're the same. There's nothing unique about them, it's really just the same sort of thing repeated and you get this generic feeling from it

I honestly haven't heard any modern metal that makes me go holy shit this is awesome and doesn't sound like every other metal band people recommend to me

but fuck it if I can't find anything I'll stick with older stuff that's always good[/QUOTE]

Here's some stuff that sounds like metal

white wizzard
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8YrkU8jjn4[/media]

warbeast (new thrash band supergroup thing)
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbFheKQ6Fb4[/media]

valient thorr (can't describe how great these guys are)
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nHcFm5OPao[/media]

warbringer (new thrash band, pretty interesting, demolition hammer-ish)
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2V91K-OWsU[/media]

megasus (doomy with a bit of groove to it)
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfBmUEJuccA[/media]

Slough Feg (never really got the recognition they deserve)
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwPfBm84fMU[/media]

Nautiluz (it's power metal)
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ppmv_yH4Mc[/media]

hammerforce (super cheesy power metal)
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saf_HJoRB7c[/media]

fog of war (these guys are fucking awwwwwwwwwesome (occasionally))
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMy8SWd-_NE[/media]

enforcer (very "riot"-esque, super 80s throwback)
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=032iifZ_SmA[/media]

Cephalic Carnage (I usually don't like this stuff but this new album is pretty good)
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZJslHpnCs8[/media]

ADX (not new but whatever)
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8qM4_NX8sE[/media]

[editline]7th March 2011[/editline]

[QUOTE=Gmod4ever;28477191]

So I misinterpreted what Putty said. Fucking sue me, Vedicardi. You can't deny there are a lot of people who go "herf derf all modern metal sucks the classics are the best herf derf."

And I didn't say [b]only[/b], Vedicardi. I said [b]primarily[/b]. There is a big difference between music I like and music I listen to. There are very few bands I can say with honesty I don't like, but that doesn't mean I listen to them every day. I listen to primarily (which is not [b]only[/b]) metal as background music while doing things because it's the hardest to get tired of.

I listen to music while I'm working to block off the rest of the world, so I can stay focused on what I'm doing. Otherwise I'm a bit ADD and everything distracts me. Metal's "wall of sound" is very effective in doing that, while also being interesting and giving something my overactive mind to focus on while I do other things. Most other music doesn't really work that well for that.[/QUOTE]

lol don't get mad at me for telling you that you didn't read his post
and of course by only I didn't mean only, don't be ridiculous. it's the internet. you're assuming far too much. do you think I really believe anyone here "only" listens to metal" Jesus.

[Longy]

[QUOTE=ThePutty;28476768]Honestly, neither do I. Go ahead and post your bands that have harsh vocals and progressive metal anyway, who knows, I might like it[/QUOTE]

My tip is: listen to bands with harsh vocals until you learn to like it. Suddenly a whole new world of music opens for you :D

[editline]7th March 2011[/editline]

[QUOTE=Hakita;28476691]Why can't you listen to both metal and prog rock?[/QUOTE]

Because then I will never get through these 17 bands.