Obama and NASA: He Did The Right Thing || Or: The Future of Manned Spaceflight
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[QUOTE=orbitrek;22685269]Fuck yea! I love space threads :3:[/QUOTE]
Ditto. These things always perk my interest: space threads, new technology threads, and any threads involving a new scientific discovery.
[QUOTE=Neo222;22682401]Depends on the type of company. If some RDA/Weyland-Yutani type company comes up, then I'd say that we know how it will end.
Hell, if I owned a company that could have access to space, I would do the same thing but do the complete opposite of those companies, helping humanity instead of my own greed.[/QUOTE]
yeah as if. Put yourself in their shoes and you would do the same, nobody can truly decide what they would do in a hypothetical situation.
[QUOTE=Earthen;22688366]yeah as if. Put yourself in their shoes and you would do the same, nobody can truly decide what they would do in a hypothetical situation.[/QUOTE]
Not at all. Me in their shoes would focus more on expanding space flight then trying to get money for my own purpose. Corporations that are greedy won't survive since their greed will blind them to the point where they can't recognize possible threats to their corporation that resulted from their own choices.
Of course, why are you complaining that I would be wrong about what I would do if you would? What would you do?
[QUOTE=Neo222;22692392]Not at all. Me in their shoes would focus more on expanding space flight then trying to get money for my own purpose. Corporations that are greedy won't survive since their greed will blind them to the point where they can't recognize possible threats to their corporation that resulted from their own choices. [/QUOTE]
pardon my curiosity but how old are you
Alright, now we got information about the American Space Program, but what's the Russian Space Program going to do in the future?
[QUOTE=Station15;22696256]Alright, now we got information about the American Space Program, but what's the Russian Space Program going to do in the future?[/QUOTE]
Probably what they've been doing for the last many years, shuttling supplies non-stop.
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[QUOTE=Neo222;22682327]Orbital drops with no pods? That would be pretty cool, both for military and sports. Just imagine sky-divers trying this thing out.[/QUOTE]
Actually, the testers for the first orbital dives will be rich adrenaline junkies. People will actually pay them to test their stuff.
we also should make poor pluto a planet again :(
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3cDdGKqp8E[/media]
Think about this. Our life time will not see sleeper ships like Freelancer. Or mining asteroids for minerals with efficiency to match shuttle launch costs. But it still rocks anyway.
At the most we will see the construction of a sustainable space station but thats about it and that it is still friggin awesome though. High five for a colony on an asteroid belt. Imagine waking up to a oxygen leak or something, or not.
[QUOTE=Mathias;22701112]Think about this. Our life time will not see sleeper ships like Freelancer. Or mining asteroids for minerals with efficiency to match shuttle launch costs. But it still rocks anyway.
At the most we will see the construction of a sustainable space station but thats about it and that it is still friggin awesome though. High five for a colony on an asteroid belt. Imagine waking up to a oxygen leak or something, or not.[/QUOTE]
We probably will see sleeper ships before we see any other kind, we almost have cryogenics down now.
[QUOTE=SolidMoos;22650200]Wow, I had no idea that this was possible in the near future.
Once this is marketed, how much would it cost to take a trip into space?[/QUOTE]
I saw it in The Universe TV Show, if it is what I'm thinking, they have these compressed structures that inflate with air once they get to space (as big as a 3 floor house).
[QUOTE=ASmellyOgre;22650372]Another cool thing going on with corporations in space is Orbital Outfitters. This company is making suits to survive in space.
This is the suborbital version, The Industrial Suborbital Spacesuit (IS3). It is pressurized with 30 minutes of air and a parachute.
[IMG]http://www.orbitaloutfitters.com/media/IS3mainsuitphoto300pw.gif[/IMG]
This, however, is the masterpiece:
[IMG]http://www.popsci.com/files/imagecache/article_image_large/articles/spacedivers_b_enlrg.jpg[/IMG]
What you're looking at is an annotated sketch of a suit designed to get you from orbit to the ground with no spacecraft. Real orbital drops with no pods. [URL="http://www.popsci.com/military-aviation-space/article/2007-06/high-dive"]Read about it here.[/URL][/QUOTE]
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[IMG]http://mutantreviewers.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/weyland.jpg[/IMG]
I'm already filling out a job application.
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[quote=jonii;22682329]wow, this is all pretty awesome!
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FFFUCKKK YOUUUUU
I don't think privatization will yield way too much technology until it actually becomes very profitable to go into space.
Are there any large incentives at this point other than rich people wanting to go to space hotels?
[QUOTE=danharibo;22649945]Surely, not even the US needs defending [b]that[/b] much[/QUOTE]
The US has become unable to convert from war-time to consumer industries and back like it did before the Korean War. A major portion of our economy depends on the business it gets from the government and the tech is too specialized to be sold as anything else.
Sounds good to me!
Everyone knows private corporations are better at getting shit into space than NASA. I dont really care who does it, but if I'm still around to see a colony get put on the moon, then that'd be awesome.
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;22706607]I don't think privatization will yield way too much technology until it actually becomes very profitable to go into space.
Are there any large incentives at this point other than rich people wanting to go to space hotels?[/QUOTE]
your average asteroid is worth a trillion dollars and could supply most of earths ore needs for a year and then some for a few ores.
Maybe in ten years we shall see a technological advance, prehaps in 1 century we will have time travel. That would be badass.
[QUOTE=TSIThomas;22707074]Maybe in ten years we shall see a technological advance, perhaps in 1 century Pigs will shit diamonds[/QUOTE]
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Hopefully we'll have Moonbase in a few decades. Either that or the first mining expedition at the very least.
The only problem with privatizing space is that any technology that is created by a corporation isn't exclusive to the United States, it's just up for the highest bidder. That's kind of a security risk.
[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;22707618]The only problem with privatizing space is that any technology that is created by a corporation isn't exclusive to the United States, it's just up for the highest bidder. That's kind of a security risk.[/QUOTE]
Not really...
What are they going to invent?
Unless its a fully functioning and viable coil/railgun or a mass driver then they should be fine.
[QUOTE=bravehat;22708766]Not really...
What are they going to invent?
Unless its a fully functioning and viable coil/railgun or a mass driver then they should be fine.[/QUOTE]
Who knows what they will invent. It's just good for your country to have that edge.
[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;22707618]The only problem with privatizing space is that any technology that is created by a corporation isn't exclusive to the United States, it's just up for the highest bidder. That's kind of a security risk.[/QUOTE]
Lol and the US wouldn't be the highest bidder? None of the companies that it buys military supplies from seem to have any problems with them.
[QUOTE=J0E_SpRaY;22660038]As long as NASA has a monopoly on space travel you won't see any major changes in science. The only problem with the privatization of space exploration is there is no way to govern it. It would become total anarchy once you leave the Earth's atmosphere.[/QUOTE]
The movie Moon is a pretty good example of this.
Once spaceflight becomes commercialized we won't need to worry about this shit.
Yeah then we just have to worry about enforcing humanitarian law.
Space marines anyone? :clint:
the idea of new colonies on the moon that have absolutely no control from any of the world's current powers is very appealing to me
[QUOTE=wonkadonk;22710339]the idea of new colonies on the moon that have absolutely no control from any of the world's current powers is very appealing to me[/QUOTE]
Laws still apply.
[QUOTE=bravehat;22715563]Laws still apply.[/QUOTE]
But not by the current world powers as he said.
I'm gonna go play Galactic Civilizations after reading this.
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