I couldn't agree any more with the video in the OP. I just don't understand how you can fuck up that badly, I've been playing cs for years and never have I had this many issues with an online game.
wait wait wait, the gloves are real!, i thought that was just a joke video by someone that haha whats next gloves!?!?
[QUOTE=mickers;51617983]wait wait wait, the gloves are real!, i thought that was just a joke video by someone that haha whats next gloves!?!?[/QUOTE]
[URL="https://steamcommunity.com/market/search?q=glove&category_730_ProPlayer%5B0%5D=any&category_730_StickerCapsule%5B0%5D=any&category_730_TournamentTeam%5B0%5D=any&category_730_Weapon%5B0%5D=any&appid=730#p1_price_asc"]They're real alright[/URL]
Why do people keep bringing up the gloves like a bad thing when it was something a lot of people were apparently requesting for?
[QUOTE=Murkrow;51618025][URL="https://steamcommunity.com/market/search?q=glove&category_730_ProPlayer%5B0%5D=any&category_730_StickerCapsule%5B0%5D=any&category_730_TournamentTeam%5B0%5D=any&category_730_Weapon%5B0%5D=any&appid=730#p1_price_asc"]They're real alright[/URL][/QUOTE]
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"$377"
what in the [I]fuck[/I]
[QUOTE=Alex_V;51616984]I think the release of the R8 Revolver was the greatest showcase of their lack of care. It was such a shitshow, I don't understand how they managed to fuck up so bad.[/QUOTE]
i think they tried to do a Dota approach with the release of the r8, where they release something really strong and tune it back
super [URL="https://louisdelbosc.gitbooks.io/livres/content/part1/chapter2/2_5.html"]optimistic initial values[/URL]
the thing is that doing that with a gun thats so cheap is very different than a dota hero
[editline]3rd January 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=Joshii;51618151]Why do people keep bringing up the gloves like a bad thing when it was something a lot of people were apparently requesting for?[/QUOTE]
im sure a lot of people here dont browse the csgo reddit, where i saw the suggestion a few times. even then, neither us or them combined is everyone. im sure youtube commenters wanted them too, people love cosmetics
[editline]3rd January 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=Tacooo;51617764]Possibly, but everyone I know who used to play it constantly has given up due to the massive amount of issues so I have to play with toxic Russians and Turkish people which isn't fun either. I honestly wish there was a way they let you filter based on language, you have to play at a disadvantage when you're the only person on your team speaking English while everyone else is communicating in another language.
The hit reg issues are minor in comparison to me tbh, the community on the EU servers is pretty bad[/QUOTE]
i see this complaint about litterally every competitive game ive played
league players dont want the french/brazillians
dotaplayers dont want russians/peruvians
titanfall players dont want cod players
csgo players dont want whatever
its not a game specific issue, even when dota 2 had language filtering it didnt work
[editline]3rd January 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=Whomobile;51617057]Meanwhile in TF2 land:
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[URL]http://www.teamfortress.com/?tab=updates[/URL]
i mean i quit tf2 but its not completely abandoned yet
[QUOTE=Joshii;51618151]Why do people keep bringing up the gloves like a bad thing when it was something a lot of people were apparently requesting for?[/QUOTE]
A lot of people did want the gloves, but a lot of people aren't willing to pay $100+ for them. There's also that growing dislike of blind box gambling mechanics.
[QUOTE=Alex_V;51616984]I think the release of the R8 Revolver was the greatest showcase of their lack of care. It was such a shitshow, I don't understand how they managed to fuck up so bad.[/QUOTE]
what was the R8 anyways? All I hear is that it was originally OP as fuck
[QUOTE=J!NX;51618242]what was the R8 anyways? All I hear is that it was originally OP as fuck[/QUOTE]
On release, a one shot kill (to the chest) pistol that was super accurate even when moving. It got nerfed within two days and an apology was posted with it.
[QUOTE=Blade Rx69;51618282]On release, a one shot kill (to the chest) pistol that was super accurate even when moving. It got nerfed within two days and an apology was posted with it.[/QUOTE]
Literal golden gun
they do the same in other games
the release of the new dota hero monkey king has him one shotting supports at level 2
they just tune back instead of buffing forward, releasing something that blows
[QUOTE=KillRay;51618300]they do the same in other games
the release of the new dota hero monkey king has him one shotting supports at level 2
they just tune back instead of buffing forward, releasing something that blows[/QUOTE]
They did even better than that. There were pistol and rifle nerfs in the same update, but almost nobody remembers those. Only the R8 is remembered.
[QUOTE=Blade Rx69;51618316]They did even better than that. There were pistol and rifle nerfs in the same update, but almost nobody remembers those. Only the R8 is remembered.[/QUOTE]
monkey king was released with a super huge update that changed a lot of stuff, for better or worse
people did the same thing. even pros were like "monkey king/ui was updated so people dont talk about the gameplay" lmao
its a valve thing. csgo people just werent used to it. dota has experienced the release of too many heroes to forget
[QUOTE=Aw3s0m3n3ss;51616994]I still don't understand who asked for the R8.[/QUOTE]
Some random intern thought it was a good idea and it stuck on a board for a while, at one of the majors a few of the teams were asked what they'd think of a revolver and they jokingly said its a great idea, new months later it actually gets released.
Just be glad that the tether gun never happened because that was something else they were talking about, where you could shoot a player and pin them to a location like using the rope tool in gmod.
[QUOTE=Blade Rx69;51618316]They did even better than that. There were pistol and rifle nerfs in the same update, but almost nobody remembers those. Only the R8 is remembered.[/QUOTE]
Nobody remembers those, because Valve reverted them after it turned out they half-assed them.
[QUOTE=Reagy;51618334]Some random intern thought it was a good idea and it stuck on a board for a while, at one of the majors a few of the teams were asked what they'd think of a revolver and they jokingly said its a great idea, new months later it actually gets released.
Just be glad that the tether gun never happened because that was something else they were talking about, where you could shoot a player and pin them to a location like using the rope tool in gmod.[/QUOTE]
Really makes me question if the csgo devs even play their own game.
[QUOTE=Reagy;51618334]Some random intern thought it was a good idea and it stuck on a board for a while, at one of the majors a few of the teams were asked what they'd think of a revolver and they jokingly said its a great idea, new months later it actually gets released.
Just be glad that the tether gun never happened because that was something else they were talking about, where you could shoot a player and pin them to a location like using the rope tool in gmod.[/QUOTE]
A revolver was considered back in initial development, but all we saw of it were some leftover hud files. I was interested in it, and am pretty sure many who knew about it were too.
I still think the idea they ended up with was interesting. The revolver tried out something new: shots that had to be primed. They might have thought that was enough for balance, but it turned out horribly (and humorously) wrong in practice.
[QUOTE=J!NX;51618295]Literal golden gun[/QUOTE]
Think of the AWP but with a faster rate of fire and you aren't hindered by the use of a scope.
Two players with basic patience and R8 revolvers could wade through an enemy team after round 1. I remember abusing the [I]shit[/I] out of that gun and winning matches hilariously lopsidedly.
[QUOTE=Blade Rx69;51618401]A revolver was considered back in initial development, but all we saw of it were some leftover hud files. I was interested in it, and am pretty sure many who knew about it were too.
I still think the idea they ended up with was interesting. The revolver tried out something new: shots that had to be primed. They might have thought that was enough for balance, but it turned out horribly (and humorously) wrong in practice.[/QUOTE]
The revolver to me when it was initially released felt like a massive lack of testing and just winging it on the shot priming, the fact you could shoot while defusing and in the prematch really showed it.
[QUOTE=Reagy;51618423] the fact you could shoot while defusing and in the prematch really showed it.[/QUOTE]
Totally forgot about that.
For those that aren't big on CS (which is like <1% of FP), you really, [I]really shouldn't be able to do that[/I]
[QUOTE=J!NX;51618242]what was the R8 anyways? All I hear is that it was originally OP as fuck[/QUOTE]
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk1xwEr_Cbw[/media]
[QUOTE=Reagy;51618423]The revolver to me when it was initially released felt like a massive lack of testing and just winging it on the shot priming, the fact you could shoot while defusing and in the prematch really showed it.[/QUOTE]
we are the testers
thats how it is with these games
valve does bugfixing before release (misses things as always lmao) but figuring out balance is left to players
any dota hero is left for ranked matchmaking at release and its usually questionable
[editline]3rd January 2017[/editline]
google terrorblade/centaur warruner/phoenix/earth spirit/ember spirit launch threads on /r/dota2 and it looks the same as every r8 thread /r/globaloffensive had
[editline]3rd January 2017[/editline]
if things started out weak, no one would use them = less balance feedback
[QUOTE=Reagy;51618423]The revolver to me when it was initially released felt like a massive lack of testing and just winging it on the shot priming, the fact you could shoot while defusing and in the prematch really showed it.[/QUOTE]
I'd give them the benefit of the doubt there. It's fairly straightforward to test what something is intended to do, but there's a ton of unintended possibilities. More testing is always good, but it's difficult to reliably catch every bug every time.
You could only alt fire the revolver during those cases, and up until the R8, no gun could fire with right click. Alt fire was used to toggle burst fire, a scope, silencer, or nothing at all: all things that didn't cause issue during setup and defuse. So I can see how it would catch them off guard.
[QUOTE=Electrocuter;51617462]TF2 is 10 years old, it's surprising they're even still updating the game, much less adding new content.[/QUOTE]
TF2 is still consistently in the top 5 most played steam games, and even is considered "gold" in terms of revenue. Other devs would kill for a playerbase like TF2's yet valve just sits there doing nothing with the game. They could be doing so much more with the game and make even more, but they just don't for some reason.
Man it must suck playing a MP game that's constantly being ruined by the 8 people developing it who just want your money.
Valve really have become shit huh
[QUOTE=Blade Rx69;51618282]On release, a one shot kill (to the chest) pistol that was super accurate even when moving. It got nerfed within two days and an apology was posted with it.[/QUOTE]
Didn't it literally have a 100% accuracy rate in the main fire mode instead of just "super accurate"?
That thing was so fun to abuse for the two days it existed. It's a shame it's useless now.
[QUOTE=The freeman;51622451]Didn't it literally have a 100% accuracy rate in the main fire mode instead of just "super accurate"?
That thing was so fun to abuse for the two days it existed. It's a shame it's useless now.[/QUOTE]
It was 100% accurate when moving and still is for the primary fire, their fix was lowering its damage and making the alt fire completely batshit huge spread so its entirely pointless, you can miss pointblank with the R8's alt fire.
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