Its called melding a phonetic language to a glyph structure.
[QUOTE=mother;39162815]has anyone used the elementary school method of learning Japanese kanji?
You start with Japanese grade 1, then progress through the grades like a Japanese boy/girl would do.
I'm currently on grade 2, but it's easy to forget kanji.[/QUOTE]
Sounds logical. What sources are you using?
[QUOTE=Wealth + Taste;39162848]Sounds logical. What sources are you using?[/QUOTE]
It's a children's book with kanji for grades 1-3.
[editline]9th January 2013[/editline]
but the cover's japanese, so i wont be able to tell you the name
[QUOTE=mother;39162815]has anyone used the elementary school method of learning Japanese kanji?
You start with Japanese grade 1, then progress through the grades like a Japanese boy/girl would do.
I'm currently on grade 2, but it's easy to forget kanji.[/QUOTE]
I have the Samurai Champloo manga with the kana over the kanji (I forget what that's called - saw it earlier on this thread).
That is a good way to practice kanji and both hiragana and katakana.
I'm currently only learning japanese by japanesepod101.com
Ever since february 2012 since I started I'm only at absoulte beginner season 2...
I'm ashamed of my progress. I really love the country and the language but I'm struggling with the motivation to learn... But now recently I'm trying to learn it everyday. I find it pretty easy. The only thing I find difficult is remembering the Hiragana, katakana and Kanji. And react to japanese words just as fast as I react with words from my native language and english.
As I'm also trying at the same time to become a student at a High School over there, without the support of a exchange program...
[QUOTE=Izekyu;39166012]I'm currently only learning japanese by japanesepod101.com
Ever since february 2012 since I started I'm only at absoulte beginner season 2...
I'm ashamed of my progress. I really love the country and the language but I'm struggling with the motivation to learn... But now recently I'm trying to learn it everyday. I find it pretty easy. The only thing I find difficult is remembering the Hiragana, katakana and Kanji. And react to japanese words just as fast as I react with words from my native language and english.
As I'm also trying at the same time to become a student at a High School over there, without the support of a exchange program...[/QUOTE]
Holy shit, you've had an account for a full year and this is your first post? Dang.
But I agree. Motivation is the most,most important thing you can ever have while learning or doing something. For instance, a lot of people go to be lawyers or doctors because it pays well. Many of them find out that the work's not cut out for them, it's too boring, it's too hard, it's just not their style, whatever. Some people enjoy being doctors and lawyers, but it's definitely not for everyone. To be honest, if I was happy flipping burgers at McDonalds, I would still be flipping burgers at McDonalds. However, I found out I'm much happier doing Computer Science as a career, which is why I'm currently studying that instead of Fry Cook Theory.
In short, do what you want because without happiness there's no point in carrying on through life.
[url]http://www.nihongomaster.com/[/url]
You guys should try this out, though its a paid service, it has a 7 day free trial, its a pretty interesting way of learning Japanese.
[QUOTE=OhHello;39177070][url]http://www.nihongomaster.com/[/url]
You guys should try this out, though its a paid service, it has a 7 day free trial, its a pretty interesting way of learning Japanese.[/QUOTE]
Yeah its not bad. Its like a mix of memrise and textfugu.
Enjoying it so far. Skipped the introductory section and I'm currently on page 3 of beginner. Still no kanji is introduced.
[QUOTE=Izekyu;39166012]
As I'm also trying at the same time to become a student at a High School over there, without the support of a exchange program...[/QUOTE]
Won't you need a visa and a [i]fuckload[/i] of money for that.
[QUOTE='Rain [Amber];39187568']Won't you need a visa and a [i]fuckload[/i] of money for that.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, and being that he would have to go to an International school, it would be expensive.
[QUOTE=DEG_fan;39187623]Yeah, and being that he would have to go to an International school, it would be expensive.[/QUOTE]
This this this this. While lots of student exchanges will cost you a few grand, that on your own will cover like, your school fees. Then you have to find your own place to stay and pay for all your own things.
Some South African guy here paid 10+ grand for a college course which cost the rest of us about 1.2 just because he's international :v:
At least with exchange programs you have a scholarship possible
Apparently my Spanish foreign language credits didn't transfer to my new university. So next semester I'll be taking Japanese I and Japanese II after that.
Hopefully by that time I'll be able to get an A without much effort.
[editline]11th January 2013[/editline]
oh my god Rikaikun where have you been all my life
Studying abroad through my college is actually cheaper then spending a semester here, planning on spending a year studying abroad in Japan.
[QUOTE=Mr_Razzums;39185540]Yeah its not bad. Its like a mix of memrise and textfugu.
Enjoying it so far. Skipped the introductory section and I'm currently on page 3 of beginner. Still no kanji is introduced.[/QUOTE]
Hi everyone! I'm the founder of Nihongo Master and when I saw some traffic coming from here, I wanted to join up and say hello!
First off, thanks to those who mentioned us as a resource to learn Japanese. Nihongo Master actually came up as an idea after I visited Japan for my first time in late 2011. After a year of development, Nihongo Master came out and became a community driven site to make learning Japanese interesting and keep self-learners motivated.
A lot of great strategies have come up to learning Japanese. It can be difficult as a self-learner because the biggest thing to help improve is the actual APPLICATION of Japanese. Speaking and reading it everyday is so important to help train your brain in casual conversation and consumption. This was the biggest thing lacking in my self-studies to prepare for my trip. I tried Rosetta Stone, textbooks, dictionaries, manga, everything. In the end, it was the conversations I had using it that was the most beneficial.
Nihongo Master is the culmination of all the good things I've used from these other tools. Plus we do a few things differently. We're always adding new features and lesson content and we're always interested in other ideas our community has. So I'd love to sit in on this discussion and participate (if you all don't throw me out right away!)
It's true what others have said. We recently had to switch to a pay model to continue to support the growth. We've gotten so popular that now we actually had to take care to buy servers and pay the people who create our excellent lesson content. But we're hoping the $12 a month price tag is affordable enough to allow even the most frugal students to give us a shot. And we're doing the 7-day trial so people can at least try everything we have before flipping out any money. Oh, and we won't take ANY payment info during your trial. We're not evil (tm).
Something that might help. This upcoming Wednesday, January 16th, at 4pm Pacific Time, we're having a Community Chat session on our site. This is going to be a two hour long chat session with our Japanese instructor as WELL as the rest of the Nihongo Master community. This can give you a chance to meet not only some of the staff but also other members that use Nihongo Master and start to create conversations. We hope you can find people that are at the same skill level of Japanese as you so you can find practice buddies. We have real-time text and voice chat so you can start practicing right away (along with great dictionary tools to help you decipher what people are talking about). We have a really positive community that helps each other out. I think the previous two people who mentioned us is a testament of that. Thanks guys/girls, whoever you are!
Anyways, great thread and I look forward to reading other people's suggestions!
Taylor
The website mentioned mobile apps but I don't see one for android, is there one planned?
[QUOTE=FalconKrunch;39195816]The website mentioned mobile apps but I don't see one for android, is there one planned?[/QUOTE]
We don't have any native mobile apps. However, if you visit the mobile version of our site, [url]http://m.nihongomaster.com/[/url] , then you'll experience a mobile-optimized version of our site that works on all major phone and tablet devices. It's optimized for speed and tap functionality. Give it a whirl.
We didn't develop any native apps (yet) because there wasn't too big of a demand. The mobile optimized web experience works *great* but we do see a need for offline drill access, for example. Until we can generate enough funds to fuel development of that, it's on the back burner. If you have ideas for a mobile app specifically, let me know!
I have to complement you and your team on the build up though, it's like Rosetta Stone except it doesn't bother me as much and actually takes time to explain everything to me.
Hah! Thanks FalconKrunch. Like I said, I wanted to take the best of all the tools I used personally in my studies (I continue to study every day). Rosetta Stone is rough because it doesn't teach any of the grammar. It doesn't even have a dictionary. It lacks any interaction with others (unless you pay ANOTHER expensive subscription fee on top of the product purchase). I liked it because of the ability to train your voice. So we do native speaker recordings (done by an amazing person who moved here from Japan). You can then record your voice and play it side by side with the native recording until you get pronunciation. We also do drills a bit like Rosetta Stone in a way but by using spaced repetition to adapt to your learning pace (Rosetta Stone has set intervals and does not budge).
But I don't want to take over the thread! Let's hear some other great suggestions!
[QUOTE=tdondich;39196072]Hah! Thanks FalconKrunch. Like I said, I wanted to take the best of all the tools I used personally in my studies (I continue to study every day). Rosetta Stone is rough because it doesn't teach any of the grammar. It doesn't even have a dictionary. It lacks any interaction with others (unless you pay ANOTHER expensive subscription fee on top of the product purchase). I liked it because of the ability to train your voice. So we do native speaker recordings (done by an amazing person who moved here from Japan). You can then record your voice and play it side by side with the native recording until you get pronunciation. We also do drills a bit like Rosetta Stone in a way but by using spaced repetition to adapt to your learning pace (Rosetta Stone has set intervals and does not budge).
But I don't want to take over the thread! Let's hear some other great suggestions![/QUOTE]
I love it when developers visit facepunch. Welcome! and don't worry about taking over the thread, post as much as you want! The more people we have here the better.
Where are you currently in your own studies? How long have you been studying? If you don't mind me asking.
Your site is unhealthily addictive by the way.
Gonna study in a Japanese language school for probably 1 year. Currently looking at this one, located in Shinjuku, Tokyo. Thank the swedish CSN for making this financially possible :V.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duFfUrQoFEk[/media]
[QUOTE=CheezyCakez;39198155]Gonna study in a Japanese language school for probably 1 year. Currently looking at this one, located in Shinjuku, Tokyo. Thank the swedish CSN for making this financially possible :V.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duFfUrQoFEk[/media][/QUOTE]
I have to say, that looks and sounds like a lot of fun.
[QUOTE=Mr_Razzums;39198122]I love it when developers visit facepunch. Welcome! and don't worry about taking over the thread, post as much as you want! The more people we have here the better.
Where are you currently in your own studies? How long have you been studying? If you don't mind me asking.
Your site is unhealthily addictive by the way.[/QUOTE]
Hah! Thanks for the addictive comment. That's the goal!
I actually just took the JLPT N5 test in December. I'll know the results in Feb. I plan on moving forward to taking the N4 this year as well as N3. Using the site's study list features allow me to really boost my vocab quickly so I can learn the required kanji and words as fast as possible. The lessons, I'm urging my content team to create as quickly as possible to make sure we have content for me to study as well. :)
I've still got a long way to go, but I'm pushing forward!
Taylor
I love that it teaches grammar too, since it's something I struggle with.
I can only find online guides like [url=http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar]this[/url] but not a complete package, I'll be subscribing after the trial period for sure.
[QUOTE=Mp6;39193086]Studying abroad through my college is actually cheaper then spending a semester here, planning on spending a year studying abroad in Japan.[/QUOTE]
That's cool but kinda fucked up at the same time :v:
Hmm considering about going for further studies in Japan. Not sure how to pull it off though, mastering Japanese won't be much of a big problem for me (Nearly did it once and confident that I can do it again). But education here ends with an equivalent version to the GCSE and I heard Japanese universities would only take advanced certificate like the A-level.
[QUOTE='Rain [Amber];39202621']That's cool but kinda fucked up at the same time :v:[/QUOTE]
It is incredibly fucked up, but I wont complain about saving as much as I will by studying abroad. Not many people will get to say that they actually saved money by studying abroad.
[QUOTE=adam1172;39214588]mastering Japanese won't be much of a big problem for me (Nearly did it once and confident that I can do it again)[/QUOTE]
I what'ed so hard. o>O
If anyone is interested in learning any 関西弁(Kansai ben - Kansai Dialect) like 大阪弁(Osaka-ben) then you should watch this. This is lesson 3 out of 11.
[video=youtube;4kEafJ2H2sI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kEafJ2H2sI[/video]
I think Osaka dialect is pretty cool (and I will probably be spending most of my time in Osaka when I do go to Japan).
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/user/onnaranma1228"]Here[/URL] is his YouTube channel.
Is there a general rule to when an extra oo is added to the end? Like おはよう vs おはよ. I already know theres supposed to be the oo at the end since I'm used to it, but I never know for other words
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