Hey, is it just me or does the "r" sound sound like the "d" sound slightly? Like having the tongue touch closer to the teeth rather than in the center of the top of the mouth.
rikaichan (rikaikun on chrome) is probably the best thing ever made for kanji on computers
[img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7563008/fuckmanaka.jpg[/img]
i can credit its names dictionarye to helping me properly identify common uses of name kanji
[QUOTE=Chezhead;38836757]Hey, is it just me or does the "r" sound sound like the "d" sound slightly? Like having the tongue touch closer to the teeth rather than in the center of the top of the mouth.[/QUOTE]
I think it sounds in between an r and l, closer to l.
[QUOTE=Chezhead;38836757]Hey, is it just me or does the "r" sound sound like the "d" sound slightly? Like having the tongue touch closer to the teeth rather than in the center of the top of the mouth.[/QUOTE]
It's a mix of the "r" and "d" sound with a bit of "l" in it.
I've read that there's a lot of Xenophobia in Japan. Would you guys concur?
[QUOTE=kaine123;38844269]I've read that there's a lot of Xenophobia in Japan. Would you guys concur?[/QUOTE]
Depends on where you go, how you act, among other things. Generally speaking some Japanese will probably assume that westerners don't know certain customs, but beyond that it's unwise to speak for a whole nation.
I'm really interested to learn japanese language, but thats a day or two and i completely forgot the whole stuff.
Hmm a long time ago when i was interested i've found this site. [url]http://learn-japanese.info/[/url]
It gives me the urges already to study again.
[QUOTE=Megafan;38845088]Depends on where you go, how you act, among other things. Generally speaking some Japanese will probably assume that westerners don't know certain customs, but beyond that it's unwise to speak for a whole nation.[/QUOTE]
Weird that I'm hearing someone on [I]Facepunch[/I] saying it's unfair to generalize the ideas of a whole nation. (Not directing at you specifically Megafan.)
[QUOTE=kaine123;38844269]I've read that there's a lot of Xenophobia in Japan. Would you guys concur?[/QUOTE] The vibe I get is indifference. Depends on where you go i guess and how used to seeing foreigners they are there.
Damn, I took Japanese for three years, and now I've forgotten a lot of this 日本語. Though, I would like to add that そうですか？is one of the most commonly used phrases, and I probably will never forget it.
Like what the others said, it depends on where you go. I've heard of Japanese being disrespectful to gaijin and then of Japanese who will praise you because you know how to say 'thank you' and 'hello' in Japanese. It also depends on your attitude. My Japanese teachers and friends have told me that if I were to go there I'd be liked because I am humble and soft spoken.
I also heard it is a common thing for a Japanese to dislike 'black' people, rather, those of African descent. Two of my friends in Japan strongly dislike the Africans in Japan. One of them is ハーフ (the non-Japanese half is Nigerian). They both say that the Africans in Japan are lazy and annoying.
[QUOTE=DEG_fan;38848564]Like what the others said, it depends on where you go. I've heard of Japanese being disrespectful to gaijin and then of Japanese who will praise you because you know how to say 'thank you' and 'hello' in Japanese. It also depends on your attitude. My Japanese teachers and friends have told me that if I were to go there I'd be liked because I am humble and soft spoken.
I also heard it is a common thing for a Japanese to dislike 'black' people, rather, those of African descent. Two of my friends in Japan strongly dislike the Africans in Japan. One of them is ハーフ (the non-Japanese half is Nigerian). They both say that the Africans in Japan are lazy and annoying.[/QUOTE]
The Nigerians I met are, although the ones I met their job is to be annoying to get you to come in their bar.
[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;38848587]The Nigerians I met are, although the ones I met their job is to be annoying to get you to come in their bar.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, one of my friends can't stand this :v:
[QUOTE=kaine123;38844269]I've read that there's a lot of Xenophobia in Japan. Would you guys concur?[/QUOTE]
A few friends from class went to Japan and apparently almost every Japanese person they spoke with/met was like ridiculously nice/courteous to them so not everywhere at least.
[QUOTE='Rain [Amber];38849674']A few friends from class went to Japan and apparently almost every Japanese person they spoke with/met was like ridiculously nice/courteous to them so not everywhere at least.[/QUOTE]
Well they were tourists, most people who have lived in japan tell me it's almost impossible to get anything done without speaking the language
also I always wondered, how many actual japanese people there are on facepunch
[QUOTE=kaine123;38844269]I've read that there's a lot of Xenophobia in Japan. Would you guys concur?[/QUOTE]
When I visited Japan for 2 weeks with my brother, we saw no hostility in any form whatsoever. The Japanese are the nicest people I've ever met; They refused tips, when we were lost a guy would often go out his way to show us to our destination and wish us well.
[QUOTE=Virtanen;38850247]Well they were tourists, most people who have lived in japan tell me it's almost impossible to get anything done without speaking the language
also I always wondered, how many actual japanese people there are on facepunch[/QUOTE]
I think InvaderNouga is a soldier of some sort stationed in Japan, or at least was, and Ja_Co-op(?) currently lives in Japan.
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[QUOTE=Thechuz1337;38850281]They refused tips[/QUOTE]
This was likely because tips aren't given unless the service is really exceptional for some reason. It's the same way in some European countries.
[QUOTE=Megafan;38850314]I think InvaderNouga is a soldier of some sort stationed in Japan, or at least was, and Ja_Co-op(?) currently lives in Japan.
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This was likely because tips aren't given unless the service is really exceptional for some reason. It's the same way in some European countries.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I'm a sailor at the US Hospital here. Once I get married ill get a spouse visa too incase I want to live here ;D. Honestly for the year I've been living in Japan can't say I miss the states at all. I can see myself living here some day. Although that's to be decided after a few more years. ALSO my understanding of tipping is that excellent customer service is a requirement of food service jobs, so tips are not accepted because 1. People aren't being paid poor money for food service jobs, and 2. Excellent service is part of the job. I'm not complaining though, it saves me money (; , honestly I can say Japanese food services have some if not THE best customer service I've ever seen.
[QUOTE='Rain [Amber];38849674']A few friends from class went to Japan and apparently almost every Japanese person they spoke with/met was like ridiculously nice/courteous to them so not everywhere at least.[/QUOTE]
As a general rule, they (and most other countries) would rather you speak their language rather than your own.
I spent a $50 Amazon Giftcard on Japanese learning books.
Fuck vidja games.
[QUOTE=Aircraft;38853806]As a general rule, they (and most other countries) would rather you speak their language rather than your own.[/QUOTE]
Especially France :v:
[QUOTE='Rain [Amber];38849674']A few friends from class went to Japan and apparently almost every Japanese person they spoke with/met was like ridiculously nice/courteous to them so not everywhere at least.[/QUOTE]
there's a difference between being xenophobic and being impolite
An interesting way to tell if a japanese speaker is being a tad xenophobic is whether or not they use the term Gaijin 外人　(Foreign Person) or Gaikokujin 外国人　(Foreign Country Person). Generally Gaijin is a bit more disparaging than the latter. I'm not sure why the former fell into slang usage among japanophiles. Gaijin comes across more like "outsider" (it literally means outside person) and is kind of like saying someone is "not one of us". Gaikokujin just means "person from another country" and is just more polite.
My brother is laughing at me, and some of you may also, but I am wholly convinced I can learn pronunciation and the grammar itself easily enough by watching some J-Kid songs on youtube. It also helps with the basic Kanji they sometimes scroll on the bottom. I'm currently working on the basics of Kanji and how to properly formulate radicals together, so understanding it should be easier, if not quicker at least. I'm going to give it at least a month, with an hour each day for it. If I don't get a good basis down I'll just say fuck it, but I'll stay with it if I can manage to start understanding it.
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;38860254]My brother is laughing at me, and some of you may also, but I am wholly convinced I can learn pronunciation and the grammar itself easily enough by watching some J-Kid songs on youtube. It also helps with the basic Kanji they sometimes scroll on the bottom. I'm currently working on the basics of Kanji and how to properly formulate radicals together, so understanding it should be easier, if not quicker at least. I'm going to give it at least a month, with an hour each day for it. If I don't get a good basis down I'll just say fuck it, but I'll stay with it if I can manage to start understanding it.[/QUOTE]
Pronunciation? Maybe. Grammar? Definitely not. Enough kanji to matter? Definitely definitely not.
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If you do I'll eat my hat.
あれわむずかしい
am i doing it right
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i fixed it i think
あれはむずかしい
"that is hard"
I'm thinking about travelling to Japan in a year or two. But I hear horror stories about how "racist" the country is.
Bullshit right?
[QUOTE=Swebonny;38864197]I'm thinking about travelling to Japan in a year or two. But I hear horror stories about how "racist" the country is.
Bullshit right?[/QUOTE]
Allow me to refer back to my earlier post:
[QUOTE=Megafan;38807192]One can really only speak in generalities about things like this, because it depends on where you go and how you're going, what have you, but I've been to Japan myself and if you don't know the language at all you're going to have quite a time. Most Japanese students study Japanese, but not often in speaking, only reading and writing, which would make it difficult for you to ask directions, talk to people you need to get in contact with, and all the rest.
As a side effect, you may also be respected less or talked down to, but that's more to do with you you're dealing with than anything.[/QUOTE]
No biggies then :v:
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