日本語 Chat Thread v1 - 外人は歓迎よ！ 「Featuring: Tools」

[Ninja Pirate]

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I agree with OP's first post, good methods. As another source for learning, which I believe you can never really have too many sources for learning something, I recommend this program. [url]http://www.humanjapanese.com/home.html[/url] This is a good program for [b]entry level/beginner[/b] Japanese. Although they are working on an intermediate level. I would explain what it is about, but just download the trial and see for yourself.

[editline]1st January 2013[/editline]

[QUOTE=adam1172;39053469]
Hey how do I make it that when I type something like 'HA' to make a は instead of pressing down on 'F'? I used to do this last time and it might help me regain my ability to read japanese.
[/QUOTE]

In Windows 7 go to control panel>Region and Language>Keyboards and Languages>Change Keyboards. Then add Japanese to the list. Then click on Microsoft IME>Properties. Under the General tab change the input method from Kana input to Romaji input. Kana input only seems useful if you have a Japanese keyboard or if you have the Japanese keyboard layout memorized.

You can also set it to have on the fly language switching capabilities. (English and Japanese for myself, using alt+shift.)　You can do this by going to Advanced Key Settings (under Text Services and Inputs.)

One last note. Under Text Services and Inputs, if you go to the Language Bar tab, you can lock the Language Bar to the task bar. I find mine always switching back to half-width Alphanumeric by default, when hirigana is the input method I intended.

If this is not what you are talking about then ignore everything I have said. But I am sure anyone new reading this thread might appreciate this post.

[editline]1st January 2013[/editline]

[QUOTE=Cypher_09;39054459]Oh god what are those, I don't see them on my hiragana chart.[/QUOTE]

ゐ wi and ゑ we

I have a Firefox addon that allows me to translate any Kana and Kanji on the fly. It's not perfect, but it is fairly handy!

[Cypher_09]

[QUOTE=Ninja Pirate;39054491]I agree with OP's first post, good methods. As another source for learning, which I believe you can never really have too many sources for learning something, I recommend this program. [url]http://www.humanjapanese.com/home.html[/url] This is a good program for [b]entry level/beginner[/b] Japanese. Although they are working on an intermediate level. I would explain what it is about, but just download the trial and see for yourself.

[editline]1st January 2013[/editline]

In Windows 7 go to control panel>Region and Language>Keyboards and Languages>Change Keyboards. Then add Japanese to the list. Then click on Microsoft IME>Properties. Under the General tab change the input method from Kana input to Romaji input. Kana input only seems useful if you have a Japanese keyboard or if you have the Japanese keyboard layout memorized. You can also set it to have on the fly language switching capabilities. (English and Japanese for myself, using alt+shift.)

If this is not what you are talking about then ignore everything I have said. But I am sure anyone new reading this thread might appreciate this post.

[editline]1st January 2013[/editline]

ゐ wi and ゑ we

I have a Firefox addon that allows me to translate any Kana and Kanji on the fly. It's not perfect, but it is fairly handy![/QUOTE]

Note to others: It has to be the Microsoft IMI or something, underneath the Japanese tab otherwise you won't be able to type in Hiragana.

ありがとうにんじゃさん。

[Ninja Pirate]

[QUOTE=Cypher_09;39054676]Note to others: It has to be the Microsoft IMI or something, underneath the Japanese tab otherwise you won't be able to type in Hiragana.

おりがとうにんじゃさん。[/QUOTE]

Thanks for bringing this up. I have since edited my post realizing many people will have the same issue. Cheers!

[Megafan]

[QUOTE=fishyfish777;39054389]don't forget ゐ and ゑ[/QUOTE]

Wi and We are the two most unused Hiragana in the entire set, which is to say almost never. They're in the bin along with Katakana Wi (井) and We (ヱ).

[Mako]

[QUOTE=Cypher_09;39054676]Note to others: It has to be the Microsoft IMI or something, underneath the Japanese tab otherwise you won't be able to type in Hiragana.

[B]おりがとう[/B]にんじゃさん。[/QUOTE]

Origatou?

[editline]1st January 2013[/editline]

isn't it ありがとう

[Cypher_09]

[QUOTE=iLife_Aftermath;39054715]Origatou?

[editline]1st January 2013[/editline]

isn't it ありがとう[/QUOTE]

Oops...

[editline]1st January 2013[/editline]

fixed, thanks.

[Mako]

don't worry cyph-chan i got ur back

[Cypher_09]

[QUOTE=iLife_Aftermath;39055009]don't worry cyph-chan i got ur back[/QUOTE]

As soon as I finish the kana, then I will work hard on spellings/vocab/grammar. I'll be better soon! I stayed up until 5am lastnight making sure I memorised everything I had seen so far in my studying.

Thanks!

[Cypher_09]

Fuck yeah, I've just finished the whole of Hiragana. Dakuten/combined etc.

Katakana next. I heard it's a bitch...

[FalconKrunch]

[QUOTE=Cypher_09;39061373]Fuck yeah, I've just finished the whole of Hiragana. Dakuten/combined etc.

Katakana next. I heard it's a bitch...[/QUOTE]

Katakana is only a bitch because of this:
so = ソ
no = ノ
shi = シ
tsu = ツ

[editline]2nd January 2013[/editline]

But it's mostly people bitching because they can, I didn't have any more trouble with it than learning hiragana.

[peterson]

[QUOTE=FalconKrunch;39062192]Katakana is only a bitch because of this:
so = ソ
no = ノ
shi = シ
tsu = ツ

[editline]2nd January 2013[/editline]

But it's mostly people bitching because they can, I didn't have any more trouble with it than learning hiragana.[/QUOTE]
The way I learned the difference between Shi and tsu was: Shi is looking away from you... So and no is easy to just recognize by memory. (also dont forget) ン

[Adam1172]

[QUOTE=FalconKrunch;39062192]Katakana is only a bitch because of this:
so = ソ
no = ノ
shi = シ
tsu = ツ

[editline]2nd January 2013[/editline]

But it's mostly people bitching because they can, I didn't have any more trouble with it than learning hiragana.[/QUOTE]

Not confusing to read on a font but its kinda bitchy when you try to write them.

Also アand マ has been a real problem for me. Everytime I try to write アダム it always end up as マダム.

Adam and Madam. WTF.

[xuenn]

はじめまして、シュエンです、どうぞよろしく！

[TrannyAlert]

I've been slowly trying to learn this by using that Memrise. Nothing else so far, currently doing it everyday when at work

[Ninja Pirate]

[QUOTE=TrannyAlert;39064008]I've been slowly trying to learn this by using that Memrise. Nothing else so far, currently doing it everyday when at work[/QUOTE]

Writing out the Kana is a good idea. It allows you to practice stroke order and helps with memorization. I [b]highly[/b] recommend anyone learning a new language goes out and purchases a whiteboard.

[Cypher_09]

If you memorise the Kana on nothing but memrise, or similar, you'll think you know them all because you can recognise them and then find that you can't write them down completely from memory without some sort of spoiler.

It's best to do it simultaneously. Get the packets of information built up in your short-term memory through Memrise, and then practice writing them down on paper. Try to write down everything you've just learned, without looking. If you get stuck on one, look it up, and then circle then one you found tough. Turn the page, keep writing out what you've done until you can write it all down correctly from memory without cheating. Have breaks, and keep coming back to it to make sure you pack it into your long-term memory (by turning the page and writing it all out again). In psychology this is called 'maintenance rehearsal'.

[editline]2nd January 2013[/editline]

What is everybody's username on Memrise? I want mempals :v:

[TrannyAlert]

Yeah I can't write them for shit.

Tell me yours and I'll add you, not posting here.

[EcksDee]

[QUOTE=Cypher_09;39065642]
What is everybody's username on Memrise? I want mempals :v:[/QUOTE]

EcksDee, woah

I'm gonna start doing some kanji on there soon, know the kana.

[editline]2nd January 2013[/editline]

[QUOTE=TrannyAlert;39065669]Yeah I can't write them for shit.

Tell me yours and I'll add you, not posting here.[/QUOTE]

why not
no really why not

[Cypher_09]

Mine is SeiferLK

[TrannyAlert]

[QUOTE=EcksDee;39065679]EcksDee, woah

why not
no really why not[/QUOTE]

Linked to facebook and it's my full name

If that's what you was asking

[Cypher_09]

How the hell do you add people? :v:

[TrannyAlert]

hahahaha I was just about to post that

[Cypher_09]

trying to figure this shit out

[editline]2nd January 2013[/editline]

ah, you need to post your profile:
[url]http://www.memrise.com/user/SeiferLK/[/url]

[TrannyAlert]

[url]http://www.memrise.com/user/SeiferLK/[/url]

change the username

[editline]2nd January 2013[/editline]

FUCKING AUHDUAYSGDAUJIOKALSJNA

[Cypher_09]

change the username to what?

[TrannyAlert]

I added you both

[editline]2nd January 2013[/editline]

oh ffs whatever

Not bothered, you have to add people seperate, not like a friend request system.

[url]http://www.memrise.com/user/thomashenryalbertclare55/[/url]

[Cypher_09]

Just found this, for anybody who already knows the full Hiragana wanting to move onto Katakana, without using the Romaji (RECOMMENDED HOLY FUCK)

[url]http://www.memrise.com/course/52789/katakana-from-hiragana/[/url]

[FalconKrunch]

[url]http://www.memrise.com/user/FalconKrunch/[/url]

My memrise page if anyone wants to add me.

[Mako]

Started this memrise

its p neat i added u guys

[Cypher_09]

[QUOTE=iLife_Aftermath;39066885]Started this memrise

its p neat i added u guys[/QUOTE]

ふむ、お名は何ですか。