Let's Make A Concept Album V3 - The Final Wars (I swear, I will not kill anyone) - General

how is it pretentious at all? It's been done so many times how could it possibly be pretentious? Also concept albums with narratives are the fuckin best

[QUOTE=Vedicardi;33414367]Also concept albums with narratives are the fuckin best[/QUOTE] True, but it requires a lot more co-ordination, something that we lack to be honest. I propose the idea that a sub-section of collaborators that want to have a narrative work together to produce a couple of songs which fit together musically, then sprinkle them throughout the album. So there would be a main plot-line, and the rest of the songs would be related stories.

OR we could collaborate to make the story first, and then start making material from there so that we're all on the same wavelength rather than sprinkling one vein of work into another

[QUOTE=MakoSkyDub;33415247]OR we could collaborate to make the story first, and then start making material from there so that we're all on the same wavelength rather than sprinkling one vein of work into another[/QUOTE] that is the preferable route, but since people have shown lack of interest in a story-based concept album,I brought forth my mixed Idea that lets the people that want a story in song make a story in song, and lets the people that just want to make a song relevant to the overall subject do that.

[QUOTE=Vedicardi;33414367]how is it pretentious at all? It's been done so many times how could it possibly be pretentious? Also concept albums with narratives are the fuckin best[/QUOTE] One question, who is chuthlu?

[QUOTE=AK'z;33418306]One question, who is chuthlu?[/QUOTE] First off. Vedi was talking about [i]the whisperer in the darkness[/i], which has little to do with Cthuthlu, I was talking about Call of Cthuthlu. On to your question, the base Idea of the Cthuthlu Mythos is that a superior race of being (The Great Old Ones) came to earth and occupied it, then when humans came about, they twisted their dreams to make them worship the Great Old Ones, Cthuthlu was like the high priest of the Great Old Ones, he kept watch over their city, R'lyeh. When the city sunk and trapped the Old Ones under the sea, he was the one that would reawaken his brethren once his worshipers freed him from R'lyeh on the day that it comes out of the ocean once more. There is a fucktonne of backstory.

A lot of the mythos is sort of ridiculous bollocks, but the point is that Lovecraft was a good creepy writer, so his stories are enjoyable despite the whole thing being difficult to take seriously. All of his otherworldly names for example are just awful. [img]http://i.imgur.com/zjisS.jpg[/img]

How about instead of something without a set narrative, maybe just something set in a universe and each song, or even perhaps smalls groups of songs made by three or so people working together, being a standalone "short story" in said universe. I've always wanted to do something like that with just actual simple writing, but to do that in musical form could be interesting since it eliminates the need for all of us to agree on one plotline, but instead only a general, broad setting or overall theme, even.

[QUOTE=Vedicardi;33427093]How about instead of something without a set narrative, maybe just something set in a universe and each song, or even perhaps smalls groups of songs made by three or so people working together, being a standalone "short story" in said universe. I've always wanted to do something like that with just actual simple writing, but to do that in musical form could be interesting since it eliminates the need for all of us to agree on one plotline, but instead only a general, broad setting or overall theme, even.[/QUOTE] So like Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence? That album had the theme of mental illness, with 2 of the songs talking about the same person, and the last song mentioning every character.

I don't listen to DT but sure I guess.

[QUOTE=Vedicardi;33427093]How about instead of something without a set narrative, maybe just something set in a universe and each song, or even perhaps smalls groups of songs made by three or so people working together, being a standalone "short story" in said universe. I've always wanted to do something like that with just actual simple writing, but to do that in musical form could be interesting since it eliminates the need for all of us to agree on one plotline, but instead only a general, broad setting or overall theme, even.[/QUOTE] It's all well and good with story telling, but "Musically" it sounds difficult and uninteresting. It's better to have a broader theme that anyone can post a demo on. Something FP can directly relate on would be good.

How is it musically difficult? Since anyone can do whatever they want, ultimately, it allows people the most freedom while still staying in a conceptual "realm." It's up to the collaborators to interpret and make whatever they want of out of whatever universe or what have you we choose, and up to groups of people to chain small groups of songs thematically if they so choose.

[QUOTE=Vedicardi;33434630]How is it musically difficult? Since anyone can do whatever they want, ultimately, it allows people the most freedom while still staying in a conceptual "realm." It's up to the collaborators to interpret and make whatever they want of out of whatever universe or what have you we choose, and up to groups of people to chain small groups of songs thematically if they so choose.[/QUOTE] If you have anything in terms of a demo, then I'd like to hear it. I personally don't think it's a viable concept.

Well it's not even a concept yet, it's just a vehicle for a concept. I don't know what the setting will actually be. It could perhaps be some sort of post-apocalyptic setting, I dunno. Just an idea.

post-apocalyptic setting is a decent idea.

sounds cool, i'd love to contribute. i like making drum and bass, if you think that might fit with the whole insanity thing. [editline]26th November 2011[/editline] oh shit... i didn't read eight pages of this >.> damn ipad. so scratch the insanity thing, but yeah, id still like to contribute

I think we'll settle with the insanity concept. We've gone far enough and not agreed.

no no no no no no no no no no no no no no

[QUOTE=Vedicardi;33457135]no no no no no no no no no no no no no no[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfbK_dbsCu0&feature=related[/media] I'm sorry, I just had to

[QUOTE=Vedicardi;33457135]no no no no no no no no no no no no no no[/QUOTE] Want one last voting?

[QUOTE=AK'z;33459098]Want one last voting?[/QUOTE] The insanity concept is so old

I found a riff last night [media]http://soundcloud.com/dicktrace/looptroop[/media] I don't think it should be played in straight 8s though (and I didn't come up with it that way) but I think it gives you a good idea of how it can sound. Thoughts?

Sounds like something snow patrol or foo fighters might play Though it might be a bit overly complex for them :v:

okay, got cubase working and figgered out how to vst. So now I can play guitar, record it, and add stuff.

[QUOTE=cpt.armadillo;33462937]okay, got cubase working and figgered out how to vst. So now I can play guitar, record it, and add stuff.[/QUOTE] I'd love to hear some of your guitarwork, you don't happen to have anything you're currently working on? =)

I'm actually not good at it, only thing that might be worth a listen is my only recording of me playing, which was a test. I may actually use it in a song. It's basically (high E)-7--0--8--0--:9-0-10-0-8-0-9-0-10:, colon being repeat. [editline]27th November 2011[/editline] Also learning chords for Proud Mary.

[QUOTE=AK'z;33452140]I think we'll settle with the insanity concept. We've gone far enough and not agreed.[/QUOTE] fuck it do whatever you want

Nein, we must all be in agree-al (new word).

No I'm just dropping out of this all together

Here comes another 10 pages of indecisiveness.