Let's Make A Concept Album V3 - The Final Wars (I swear, I will not kill anyone) - General

I like the idea. [editline]5th November 2011[/editline] Might contribute.

[QUOTE=Dick Tracy;33132953]As previously mentioned, I think we should deal with descent into madness with this concept album. It starts of serene, simple, calm, and slowly but surely the songs get more chaotic and complex, until it finally explodes with the most chaotic, insane song we can possibly make. [/QUOTE] Yeah, but so what?

[QUOTE=Mr._N;33138654]so what?[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqNTltOGh5c[/media]

[QUOTE=AK'z;33138821][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqNTltOGh5c[/media][/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6MlrPESdDI[/media]

the only other "So What" I can think of is the "Pink" version. I won't do that. :(

So if it gets crazy and heavy + messy at the end can I try to make something for the heavy song? I post 2 things that might go into the direction and which I made some time ago: [B]Caynug - Song 4 part 2 mastered:[/B] [media]http://soundcloud.com/dekay-snug/song-4-part-6-mastered[/media] [B]Caynug - Meaty Outro (It's very old therefore not good drums and guitar sound):[/B] [media]http://soundcloud.com/dekay-snug/caynug-meaty-outro-eq[/media] I can come up with something crazy, creepy and hard as shit for the end song if this stuff is welcome. I am also flexible, tell me what kind of thing you need and I make it :v:

[url]http://soundcloud.com/holy-helix/sets/simulated_ep/[/url] Here is some work I've done that might best fit a [I]decent into madness[/I]. Anyone want to collaborate?

i think ill provide some messed up noise track if i find enough time to make one [editline]6th November 2011[/editline] ear rape warning [media]http://soundcloud.com/rapakontakaa/op-get-out[/media] something akin to this i guess

[QUOTE=T.F.W.O.;33143323][url]http://soundcloud.com/holy-helix/sets/simulated_ep/[/url] Here is some work I've done that might best fit a [I]decent into madness[/I]. Anyone want to collaborate?[/QUOTE] I think the clanking sounds in the first song could use a bit more reverb or something to make them sound more real. Other than that it's really catchy.

Oh man, I thought it would be a bit longer before a theme was settled upon. As for this one, (assuming at this point I'm contributing something here so my opinion is somewhat valid) we should be careful not to have X songs with the same structure, like ten descents or some shit. How about coming up with a reasonably simple plotline and defining stages to be conveyed through each song or each trio of songs or something, so the album feels like it was done by more of a unit rather than loose material made and then fitted together afterwards?

Oh and Akayz, don't make 3 really boring songs this time, pretty please :smile:

I might contribute to this, get something going if I can. [QUOTE=Hakita;33148610]Oh and Akayz, don't make 3 really boring songs this time, pretty please :smile:[/QUOTE] Yeah dude soundscapes are all very well but not when its the same shit for 3 minutes with nothing to lead it

Fair enough, I won't do anything too deep for y'all. :) But please be a little open to whatever people post. "It's boring or sounds shit" isn't going to help. Try and help them with the sound.

[QUOTE=AK'z;33148673]Fair enough, I won't do anything too deep for y'all. :) But please be a little open to whatever people post. "It's boring or sounds shit" isn't going to help. Try and help them with the sound.[/QUOTE] At the risk of sounding aggressive and confrontational, your stuff was actually really, really shallow. Just because it's 'experimental' or 'psychedelic' doesn't make it deep at all. There was absolutely no meaning or depth to it and the first thing I thought when i heard them was a person sitting in the room going "Look at me and all the sounds I found out that sound mildly different to what you are used to, now sit here for 3 minutes and listen to them" I did make a suggestion in the other thread which was that you can't just keep a sound going for 3 minutes, that's not how it works, noone is interested in that and you can go "Yeah, that sounds rad I'll keep it like that" but I don't know if you ever really tried to listen to it for 3 minutes yourself or if you just looped it because you were too lazy to do much else with it. Change it up a bit, make it more interesting, a song, or even a soundscape, should have more than one motif in it and should have something to lead it, neither of which you had.

I'm not much of an artist, but at least I try to enjoy something that's not easy. [editline]6th November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=killerteacup;33148689] Change it up a bit, make it more interesting, a song, or even a soundscape, should have more than one motif in it and should have something to lead it, neither of which you had.[/QUOTE] What do you mean by interesting?

[QUOTE=AK'z;33148691]I'm not much of an artist, but at least I try to enjoy something that's not easy.[/QUOTE] I tried to enjoy your stuff and failed. You can't just pass off all the stuff you write with the philosophy of "well, they aren't trying hard enough to appreciate it." If you do that then why would we bother providing legitimate advice in the first place. The philosophy of "there has to be an element of self-indulgence to what I write and I shouldn't listen to the audience because there will always be naysayers and I have to deal with them " doesn't apply in this situation. [QUOTE=AK'z;33148691] What do you mean by interesting?[/QUOTE] I mean stop posting 3 minutes worth of sounds that have nothing to really contextualise them with the album, or any relation to anything whatsoever. If those are sounds that you would like to use, you have to apply them in the context of a song, which means more structured, with a stronger melody to lead it, or if you would prefer to do soundscapes, you need to chop and change it up enough to make it interesting and you definitely need to get the sounds to a higher quality to pull it off.

self-indulgence is best indulgence. But I will admit, the stuff I did was lot stretched out. I'll try to keep it from this project unless it's right for it.

[QUOTE=AK'z;33148786]self-indulgence is best indulgence. But I will admit, the stuff I did was lot stretched out. I'll try to keep it from this project unless it's right for it.[/QUOTE] self-indulgence is only 100% fine if you are flying solo You aren't flying solo and you need to indulge the people around you in this and do a bit of pleasing

My band has a song called "Bloodbath" that might fit in towards the end here if we get a proper recording of it. We have a rough recording that we did with one of those handheld recorders that we just put at the back of the room we practice in and played really loud at. [media]http://soundcloud.com/jakobkg/blodbad-grovopptak[/media] The actual song starts at 1:53 and the bass is both sloppy and way too loud and the guitar solo parts are a bit shit, but we didn't have the time to do a second try past the warmup playthrough. [editline]6th November 2011[/editline] Feel free to criticize and make suggestions as long as you post on here, the Soundcloud recording is supposed to be sort of private at the moment.

Okay here's a very short little ditty I recorded and it may be cool for a little segue track or an intro or something or whatever. [media]http://soundcloud.com/pie_is_good/another-year[/media]

nice, just needs a bit of sound improvement. But I like the playing.

the poor sound quality is like a symbolic metaphor of the protagonist's descent into madness or something. plus I can't afford a good mic.

Guys, as a reminder, we are going to release this on GD, so I don't think noise tracks would be very liked.

[QUOTE=Hakita;33152108]Guys, as a reminder, we are going to release this on GD, so I don't think noise tracks would be very liked.[/QUOTE] Dude, it doesn't matter. Just so long as it's mastered right and is a little accessible... any genre is allowed.

[QUOTE=AK'z;33152145]Dude, it doesn't matter. Just so long as it's mastered right and is a little accessible... any genre is allowed.[/QUOTE] I'm just saying that if the second half of the album is [I]just[/I] noise, its going to get repetitive.

nobody says it will be a whole side of noise, chill out. There's plenty of different aspects of madness. We could try the obvious "random all over the place" and avant-garde.. or we could do something unique and make the music structure out of place and sounds that are really weird.

[QUOTE=AK'z;33152201]nobody says it will be a whole side of noise, chill out. There's plenty of different aspects of madness. We could try the obvious "random all over the place" and avant-garde.. or we could do something unique and make the music structure out of place and sounds that are really weird.[/QUOTE] I am chill, but I just wanted to notify it.

yeah, but judging things before they're done is complete MADNESS I TELL YOU. :smug: It's only the second day. We have all the time in the world to collect experiments through the months.

[QUOTE=AK'z;33152253]yeah, but judging things before they're done is complete MADNESS I TELL YOU. :smug: It's only the second day. We have all the time in the world to collect experiments through the months.[/QUOTE] Now this gave me an idea. What if every song is a single day in the protagonist's slow descent to madness?

wait why is the protagonist going mad?