Let's Make A Concept Album V3 - The Final Wars (I swear, I will not kill anyone) - General

we haven't decided on a concept yet read the thread ffs everyone SHOULD be reading the whisperer in darkness to see if it would be worth basing the album around but no one seems to READ THE THREAD [editline]8th November 2011[/editline] if you don't care for reading or considering/improving or commenting others ideas then feel free to post your own

-snip for idiocy-

[QUOTE=Mon;33171699]no no it's not the closest it got to madness was brain damage please don't tell me you thought that Time was about madness it wasn't[/QUOTE] Of course it had different themes, it wasn't just a simple minded "lone-concept". I agree there's a lot more to it. But in my opinion, it's about the state of mind.

[QUOTE=ThatCrazyGmanV2;33180754]It was a joke, relax.[/QUOTE] I was referring to the last group of posts that seem to have no idea where we are right now and are still posting as if we are working with an idea which we have seemingly collectively chosen not to go with. Not you

[QUOTE=Vedicardi;33180778]I was referring to the last group of posts that seem to have no idea where we are right now and are still posting as if we are working with an idea which we have seemingly collectively chosen not to go with. Not you[/QUOTE] I swear the moment I enter any Gig room thread I lose all sense of interpretation. [editline]8th November 2011[/editline] back on topic, if [i]The Whisperer in the Darkness[/i] doesn't work as a theme, how about [i]Fahrenheit 451[/i]? It has some pretty good universal (sorta generic) themes, commercialization, the rejection of our more traditional media for new entertainment outlets that lead to isolation and freedom of speech.

Since I'm listing the ideas, do you think it's a good idea to vote?

I think the first step should be to read "The Whisperer In Darkness", if it doesn't work, we'll look into some other ideas.

Well we've discussed HP Lovecraft stories in the last two threads, and I said it would be tricky to get people on board if they haven't read any of his work. Maybe some bands have used the stories for inspiration. Any ideas?

[QUOTE=ThatCrazyGmanV2;33180845]I swear the moment I enter any Gig room thread I lose all sense of interpretation. [editline]8th November 2011[/editline] back on topic, if [i]The Whisperer in the Darkness[/i] doesn't work as a theme, how about [i]Fahrenheit 451[/i]? It has some pretty good universal (sorta generic) themes, commercialization, the rejection of our more traditional media for new entertainment outlets that lead to isolation and freedom of speech.[/QUOTE] I also like the idea of making a concept album on Fahrenheit 451!

Again, it's still a novel. But since it's "Cold War" related, that aspect can be used as a concept.

[QUOTE=AK'z;33181034]Again, it's still a novel. But since it's "Cold War" related, that aspect can be used as a concept.[/QUOTE] what? It's about a symbol of brutality turning against his nature for the good of humanity.

[QUOTE=ThatCrazyGmanV2;33181058]what? It's about a symbol of brutality turning against his nature for the good of humanity.[/QUOTE] Well why don't we do George Orwell's 1984 then? I'm just saying, that people won't relate to it if they have no clue about the book.

We don't have to do a carbon copy, there are elements in the books that we can use, but twist it to fit our needs instead.

That I do agree to, unless we could do a carbon copy if it was thought out well enough.

[QUOTE=Dick Tracy;33181084]We don't have to do a carbon copy, there are elements in the books that we can use, but twist it to fit our needs instead.[/QUOTE] Yeah, like the idea of the Firemen, the fact that the people that risk there lives for ours could get twisted into symbols of brutal dictatorship, or the idea of how the entertainment industry is watering down our sense of morals [editline]8th November 2011[/editline] Maybe I could do a track of someone noodling on a guitar (just random songs) poorly, then the sound of a door breaking down and gunshots? That could be the opening track?

[QUOTE=AK'z;33181011]Well we've discussed HP Lovecraft stories in the last two threads, and I said it would be tricky to get people on board if they haven't read any of his work. Maybe some bands have used the stories for inspiration. Any ideas?[/QUOTE] that's why we are saying people should go read it? I haven't read 451 does that mean I should just immediately put down the idea and not care?

[QUOTE=Vedicardi;33183806] [B]I haven't read 451[/B] does that mean I should just immediately put down the idea and not care?[/QUOTE] Tell me what you would do in terms of this project. And don't tell me to read the book.

Just want to tell you guys that I am here if someone needs some help on mixing or something, I can make sad and crazy music. Great guitar sound great bass sound perfect drum sound I am saying this because I can't lurk every post here, so if somebody needs some crazy shit metal or something clean and depressive or ambiental PM me :smile: Just trying to be nice since the end of the concept album is about messy madness and I can bring doom.

[QUOTE=ThatCrazyGmanV2;33181058]what? It's about a symbol of brutality turning against his nature for the good of humanity.[/QUOTE] It's about the evils of television and radio. Ray Bradbury says so himself.

[QUOTE=Vedicardi;33183806]that's why we are saying people should go read it?[/QUOTE] I read [i]Whisperer in The Darkness[/i], It's a very... interesting story.

Lovecraftian is kinda silly as a concept

lovecraft sucks, let's do joyce

[QUOTE=AK'z;33183856]Tell me what you would do in terms of this project. And don't tell me to read the book.[/QUOTE] lol why do I need to tell you anything? I posted the synopsis if you can't even be bothered to read that or consider it that's on you [editline]8th November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=killerteacup;33191544]Lovecraftian is kinda silly as a concept[/QUOTE] it's a specific story, not just general mythos

we need to do something that has things that the listener can take away from i know i'm beating a dead horse here when i'm saying this, but looking to the mundane isn't a half bad idea in this case - lovecraft is just such a boring topic for an album

If you want to take that approach, or if that's the mindset you have in regards to this project, I would really like to hear your ideas

I have to agree with Vedi that [i]the whisperer in the darkness[/i] would make a good concept if we retold the story through the songs (maybe each song would be one of the letters, and the final 2-3 songs be the conclusion of the story.)

[QUOTE=Clovis;33198555]New tracklisting[/QUOTE] funny, read the fucking story and you'd know what I was talking about

[media]http://soundcloud.com/dicktrace/chord-prog[/media] I doodled a small and simple chord progression, I'm not entirely sure what key it is in now but I'm thinking it should perhaps be a bit darker. A bum note comes in at the fourth bar, it shouldn't be there, not sure why it sneaked in there. Anyways, thoughts?

[QUOTE=Vedicardi;33196027]If you want to take that approach, or if that's the mindset you have in regards to this project, I would really like to hear your ideas[/QUOTE] we've got options here i personally like the idea of a relationship's life cycle (meeting her to breaking up), it's a really human concept, and deals with a lot of relatable emotions basically it's a musical and lyrical goldmine

yeah but that's equally bullshit and dumb as it's been done 100 times and doesn't mean shit. it's great if you're doing that concept because it's writing from the heart but if you choose something like that just because it's easy and relateable then fuck it. how is that mundane? what could you really take away from something like that