Immortality sucks ( Afterlife too) - General

How will it get boring? You can choose to be bored or not if you were in a afterlife or a god. Dumbass

An eternity of consciousness is pretty much the worst torture imaginable

[QUOTE=Im-Bored;27533834]Lets ban OP and wait for him to post in the refugee camp.[/QUOTE] fixed

[QUOTE=SpaceGhost;27536563]How will it get boring? You can choose to be bored or not if you were in a afterlife or a god. Dumbass[/QUOTE] You would wish to be happy and never wish to not be happy. seems pretty boring to me. also dont call people dumb asses this isnt youtube or 4chan. [editline]19th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Zeke129;27536574]An eternity of consciousness is pretty much the worst torture imaginable[/QUOTE] I say anything is better then no impute at all.

Perhaps if there is an afterlife, and say those of you who are like me and like to cause trouble, can be the ghosts that mess with peoples head here on earth. I mean, making someone think there is ghosts except when anyone else is around would be fun as hell... Knocking over papers in front of people, making weird noises, etc. I hope there is a free pass from the afterlife to mess with the living, or man, the afterlife is going to get old. As for being immortal, I don't think it would be old. Think, if you were someone 100 years old, you witnessed the creation of the industrial / digital age. However, I would want to stay around 30-40 years of age as well. The next 100 years might not be as pretty as the last, but really if you pay attention to the news, there isnt really a dull moment unless you think the world is like Disney World...

I really thought this thread was gonna be a copy-paste of this short story I stumbled upon the other day. But it wasn't, so here's the story. It's a good read. [url]http://everything2.com/user/santo/writeups/Immortality+blows[/url]

I like to think of us as extremely complex organic machines (which we are). Let's take a computer for example. If I bash it with a sledgehammer and permanently ensure that it won't ever be turned on again, it doesn't exactly go to heaven, or an afterlife. It's a machine.

even if the afterlife was like that it would probably include the option to leave

Why does op seem to think that if you were immortal you'd just be stuck in one place? If you lived forever you could just wait for spaceships to be invented or build your own and just fire yourself at the nearest star.

It's like nobody in this thread understands that we live in a physical world where our minds are composed of cells and everything you've ever experienced happened within those cells. Trauma or lack of oxygen will kill these cells. Once these cells stop working then that's it. I don't understand how someone can logically think reincarnation or an afterlife can work. The fear and lack of understanding of what happens during death turns too many people to believe irrational thoughts of living on through death because that's the only thing they can understand.

[QUOTE=Mr_Razzums;27533840]People are not perfect, we have instincts that tell us not to die, so death is probably pretty bad. Death may be the flaw of life, death might not be perfected. Although almost impossible, and highly highly improbable, imagine death being like closing your eyes and then staying that way forever. Although this kind of stuff seems impossible without a brain, YOU NEVER KNOW. I hope some one figures out what death is like before I die.[/QUOTE] People have. It's just that they couldn't find a way to let us know.

[QUOTE=luck_or_loss;27539185]It's like nobody in this thread understands that we live in a physical world where our minds are composed of cells and everything you've ever experienced happened within those cells. Trauma or lack of oxygen will kill these cells. Once these cells stop working then that's it. I don't understand how someone can logically think reincarnation or an afterlife can work. The fear and lack of understanding of what happens during death turns too many people to believe irrational thoughts of living on through death because that's the only thing they can understand.[/QUOTE] I think a lot of people understand that, but that doesn't mean you can't speculate about the "what if" scenarios. I know there's no afterlife nor immortality, I know I'm going to die. It just amazes me that people can actually want to live forever. But I understand some of the reasons now.

if there is such a thing of paradise i would wish the world is like it used to be

There's also the theory of quantum immortality. [url]http://science.howstuffworks.com/science-vs-myth/everyday-myths/quantum-suicide.htm[/url] [img]http://horobox.reager.org/u/Orkel_1295560554.gif[/img] I think it'd suck though, you'd basically age and never die, imagine being a 500 year old man who can't do anything by himself and suffering from every possible illness but simply can't die from his own perspective.

[QUOTE=Diet Kane;27532781]Thread music [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TsOPjZEF6E[/media][/QUOTE] No, this: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrqF2KhZfa0[/media]

I love pondering philisophicsal quandaries and astronomy, I also love photography. I don't think I'd get bored pondering philosophical quandaries, exploring the universe, and taking photos around the universe for eternity. I mean, look at all the fucking billions of potential interesting things in nature there is to photograph on earth alone, times it by the sheer vast infinitum of the universe, and you have a massive playground out there. As for philosophical quandaries, it's an unbound topic, the deeper you go, the more there is to think about. Also an eternity to find and [b]MASTER[/b] new hobbies seems like a hell of a fun thing to do, you'd rack up a collection of stuff you have mastered pretty quickly over a few thousand years, and feel content in the knowledge you have an eternity to master whatever you wish.

Why would you not want an afterlife? If I could find out everything that ever has and ever will happen, then dissect how it happened, I would be in heaven, oh wait.

[QUOTE=MegaChalupa;27533508]Choosing to end your life out of boredom is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.[/QUOTE] Imagine living for millions of years, you'll have done everything you could possibly do, so you'd get bored.

IMO religion was created by someone claiming to be a prophet and then people picked it up and altered it over the years. Who knows who is right?

[QUOTE=Orkel;27542265]There's also the theory of quantum immortality. [url]http://science.howstuffworks.com/science-vs-myth/everyday-myths/quantum-suicide.htm[/url] [img_thumb]http://horobox.reager.org/u/Orkel_1295560554.gif[/img_thumb] I think it'd suck though, you'd basically age and never die, imagine being a 500 year old man who can't do anything by himself and suffering from every possible illness but simply can't die from his own perspective.[/QUOTE] Try to decide. Either you die or you don't. If you can age normally and suffer from illnesses, your body will fail before 500 years. Or you can only die being killed by that gun, in which case your best way to survive is not to pull the trigger. Or you can keep pulling the trigger to infinity, halving your chance of survival with each pull, but never reaching zero in finite time.

Immortality means every thing I know coming to a halt, thats scary. Being bored is something that you are lucky to have, you would go insane if you made full use of all your senses all the time. If you always knew what was happening within a 100m bubble of yourself you wouldn't be able to think about it for ever. Boredom is a way for people to isolate themselves from the 'other' of the world. If a person couldn't be bored... I don't know what would happen for sure.

[QUOTE=ThePuska;27542918]Try to decide. Either you die or you don't. If you can age normally and suffer from illnesses, your body will fail before 500 years. Or you can only die being killed by that gun, in which case your best way to survive is not to pull the trigger. Or you can keep pulling the trigger to infinity, halving your chance of survival with each pull, but never reaching zero in finite time.[/QUOTE] Yeah, but the theory states that there's always a tiny chance of survival, even if the chance of living to age 500, or surviving from a point blank nuclear bomb, or as you said having your body [i]not[/i] fail from age, was one in a billion trillion trillions, your conscious self would survive in that universe and die in every other, therefore you would be "immortal" from your point of view.

If you were immortal surely you would learn to adapt. You would have no choice but to. Of course you would see loved ones die around you, but at the same time you would be able to accept that fact and move on. If you were unable to perish then you'd not have any other choice.

There is absolutley no tangible reason to believe there is an afterlife, find comfort in that.

[QUOTE=Esteam;27532702]I wouldn't want to live an afterlife, no matter what. Nor would I want to come back in any form, especially human.[/QUOTE] Dude, imagine being a ghost. You can scare the shit out of pussies!

If paradise is perfect, I don't see why it would be boring, since we get bored on Earth because of it's imperfections.

I want to be immortal just to see what happens to the world. All the technological advances and if Nissan will turn back to Datsun in 5012.

[QUOTE=Numidium;27532674] Not only would you be bored.[/QUOTE] No, you would not. There is so much to do you won't have time to do it all before something new comes along and multiplies your list of "to do". Not to mention as long as you have an active social life you will always have something to do, be it a party, award ceremony or whatever. [QUOTE=Numidium;27532674] You would have to endure the painful things too. You'd see countless of your friends, and maybe children die. You'd become apart, avoiding contact with other humans to avoid amother loss, an inevitable loss. You'd become an outcast, lonely. You'd be fallen into madness after a few centuries at most.[/QUOTE] You'd get used to it, learn to not care. You'd learn that while people aren't eternal, they last damn long so live the moment, when these guys are dead then move on. [QUOTE=Numidium;27532674] We can go even further with invincibility. Do you want to stand on this planet after the sun burned its surface and eradicated all life from it, trapped in a wasteland worse than anything fallout gives you? [/QUOTE] This is a good point, floating in space for a few millennia would drive you mad.

Immortality/living a long ass time would never be plausible or realistic. Even if you managed to become immortal, your mind and body would continue to age normally and ultimately you would reach a form of transcendent matter and would drift through space for an eternity.

[QUOTE=acds;27544224] This is a good point, floating in space for a few millennia would drive you mad.[/QUOTE] Immortality would be good if you could kill yourself after a few millenia in inescapable situations like those.