[QUOTE=Stopper;27860357]You're a moron. Most of us know about Communism, because we've suffered through it since 1945 to it's fall in 1990.[/QUOTE]
only a handful of people on this forum were alive when eastern europe was communist, and even less lived in those countries and were alive long enough to remember it
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[QUOTE=Gythor;27860371]It's Lenin. That's the only thing I recognize on the pins. The picture might, as said, be a bit blurry though, but I assure you that it's Lenin.
Even the star with the kid should be Lenin apparently.[/QUOTE]
im not arguing that it is lenin, im saying it looks a lot like stalin
[QUOTE=yawmwen;27860509]im not arguing that it is lenin, im saying it looks a lot like stalin[/QUOTE]
Dictators, they're all the same.
Unique facial Hair and slight balding.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;27860208]im a 19 year old american and i think soviet retro art is fucking cool looking
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it's called socialist realism lol
stalinist era propaganda (though it originates in early bolshevik culture)
[QUOTE=Stopper;27860357]You're a moron. Most of us know about Communism, because we've suffered through it since 1945 to it's fall in 1990.[/QUOTE]
yeah communism is evil
Give us a damn close up and I could read it for you.
I have shittonne of soviet medals in my house.
Hey cool, I got the same kind of pins too. I got them on a pilotka.
[img]http://gallery.kitmaker.net/data/25208/pilotka.jpg[/img]
All of them have Lenins face.
Number 4, 3, 5, 6 are extremely common and you'll find them in just about any house in Russia and post-soviet countries, Im not quite sure how to translate their meaning to English but it was pretty much given to any soldier who served on the Eastern Front.
Although I have never seen number 1 and am completely unaware of what it is awarded for.
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Number 6: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VLKSM[/url]
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Number 2: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udarnik[/url]
[QUOTE=Prismatex;27860078]There are a few Russian weeaboos here, just like weeaboo weeaboos (you, judging by your avatar).
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But I'm actually japanese unlike 90% of the people in Fast Anime
Some pretty neat pins you have there.
They are just Communist Supporter Badges. They seem fake first of all, but if they're not good for you. I would get my grandma to explain to me which one means what, but eh, she's in Eastern Europe, somewhere in a fucked up country, with no internet or cable, feeding her bear. jk on the bear part.
[QUOTE=Mio Akiyama;27861893]But I'm actually japanese unlike 90% of the people in Fast Anime[/QUOTE]
Nah.
[QUOTE=Mio Akiyama;27860032]What's with facepunch's obsession with all things Russian?[/QUOTE]
perhaps because i'm russian?
though some ruskiboos really fucking piss me off "OH LOL I SUPPORT SOVIETISM COZ IT'S ALTERNATIVE N COOL AND IAM AN EDGY TEEN."
i once saw some random wearing a russian pin given to people who survive ship-wreckings, i wanted to punch the hipser starbuck-and-iphone fucker in the face.
[QUOTE=Nerdrage;27909651]perhaps because i'm russian?
though some ruskiboos really fucking piss me off "OH LOL I SUPPORT SOVIETISM COZ IT'S ALTERNATIVE N COOL AND IAM AN EDGY TEEN."
i once saw some random wearing a russian pin given to people who survive ship-wreckings, i wanted to punch the hipser starbuck-and-iphone fucker in the face.[/QUOTE]
starbucks is hipster :downs:
[QUOTE=Ekalektik_1;27860218]Well, I'm interested in Russia because I find it to be a very interesting place with a lot of history. Anybody's guess as to why some people here are interested in it because of communism, though.[/QUOTE]
Not much to know about Russian history in the past 100 years, other than it was run by a succession of insane murderous men that killed millions of their own people to defend an equally insane ideology that was doomed to failure the moment it was implemented.
Stalin used Lenin when on his death bed to control those around him to usurp power and gain control of the government. People think Hitler was bad for killing ~2 million jews, Stalin killed more than 20 million of his own people, and personally signed thousands of death warrants with his own hands. It just gets darker from there, I have no idea why anyone would be interested in genocide.
[QUOTE=xpod1;27860105]15 year old Europeans that like communism for god knows why[/QUOTE]
I actually think some of the old Soviet stuff looks pretty cool but I'm in no way a supporter of communism or how they actually ran things.
Okay, an explanatiob on all of the pins.
Pin 1: The Oktyabryunok. Given to all schoolchildren in the first class until the fourth class.
Pin 2: The Udarnik Komynisticheskogo Truda (UKD). Given to hard workers. Its pretty good to get this.
Pin 3: The Komunist. Given to full grown people who are willing to give their life for the USSR (joined the army)
Pin 4: The Pioner. GIven to schoolchildren from the fifth class untill the tenth.
Pin 5: The Komunist (again). This pin is just given to full grown people.
Pin 6: The Komsomolets. After you finish school, you may choose to study farther (go to a university). If you do, then you will get this pin.
Lenin is on pin two to five.
The second one is awarded to good citizens who have done good deeds. It's like a ribbon.
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The flaming one is a Young Pioneers badge (boyscouts etc.) that says "Always Ready" on it.
[QUOTE=Stopper;27860357]You're a moron. Most of us know about Communism, because we've suffered through it since 1945 to it's fall in 1990.[/QUOTE]
uhh no that's like 3 out of 47 countries in Europe. Infact most of Europe didn't and probably never will experience a communist goverment.
Let's try not to derail the thread guys. OP asked for what the medals/pins were, not a history/political debate.
I think they've all been described by now. Just to add on the first one (Which was the "Little Octobrist") uses a picture of Young Lenin:
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/86/Lenin_Age_4.jpg/516px-Lenin_Age_4.jpg[/img]
Since it was given to young children.
[QUOTE=bohb;27910285]People think Hitler was bad for killing ~2 million jews, Stalin killed more than 20 million of his own people[/QUOTE]
Utter nonsense and complete bullshit.
[QUOTE=Keldan;27910514]Okay, an explanatiob on all of the pins.
Pin 1: The Oktyabryunok. Given to all schoolchildren in the first class until the fourth class.
Pin 2: The Udarnik Komynisticheskogo Truda (UKD). Given to hard workers. Its pretty good to get this.
Pin 3: The Komunist. Given to full grown people who are willing to give their life for the USSR (joined the army)
Pin 4: The Pioner. GIven to schoolchildren from the fifth class untill the tenth.
Pin 5: The Komunist (again). This pin is just given to full grown people.
Pin 6: The Komsomolets. After you finish school, you may choose to study farther (go to a university). If you do, then you will get this pin.
Lenin is on pin two to five.[/QUOTE]
Thread complete.
The discussion will now descend into a politics debate/flamewar.
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[QUOTE=Melnek;27917277]Utter nonsense and complete bullshit.[/QUOTE]
Actually no, around 20 million seems to be the accepted number. Either way both were ruthless, evil rulers and are better off gone.
[QUOTE=Meller Yeller;27917520]Actually no, around 20 million seems to be the accepted number. Either way both were ruthless, evil rulers and are better off gone.[/QUOTE]
20 million is an overblown exaggeration made by the west during the Cold War. Not to mention it's statistically fucking impossible. The real numbers only go as high as 4-8 million in total.
And Im not really trying to justify Stalin, but I hate popular historical misconceptions with a passion.
Hell, some people even say the death count went as high as 64 million which is fucking retarded and would literally mean at least 4 family members would be dead per family.
No one knows how many died under Stalin's rule, although many estimates are way overblown thanks to McCarthyism.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;27860208]im a 19 year old american and i think soviet retro art is fucking cool looking
how is this shit not cool looking
[img_thumb]http://andrikyrychok.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/0000-7136-4cccp-russian-propaganda-posters2.jpg[/img_thumb]
[img_thumb]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_5Z0iQNOJJNg/TSbhD2lS-UI/AAAAAAAAAyU/8yY0TblYHO0/s1600/soviet_propaganda.jpg[/img_thumb]
[img_thumb]http://youthoughtwewouldntnotice.com/blog3/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/sovietworker.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE]
Problem is you're too dumb to understand what these means what what the fuck the Russians did to so many people.
If you lived in the USSR or in a post-Soviet country, you'd understand, but I guess the USSR is like Che Guevara, some fucking insane dude which murdered people for no reason and got popular for being a "romantic revolutionist" or whatever.
[QUOTE=Melnek;27918052]20 million is an overblown exaggeration made by the west during the Cold War. Not to mention it's statistically fucking impossible. The real numbers only go as high as 4-8 million in total.
And Im not really trying to justify Stalin, but I hate popular historical misconceptions with a passion.
Hell, some people even say the death count went as high as 64 million which is fucking retarded and would literally mean at least 4 family members would be dead per family.[/QUOTE]Anywhere from 5 to over 10 million died in the Soviet famine of 1932–1933, million and a half from the Soviet Famine of 1947, between half a million to a million executed during the Great Purge, up to half a million from kulak collectivization (specifically, the famines caused by that and execution of non-compliants), up to 2 million died in the gulags, over a million from forced population transfers. Then there's the various war crimes, executions not related to the Great Terror (especially in the Eastern European nations) and so on.
64 million is indeed massively overblown (or they decided to include deaths on the Soviet side during the war, which would be silly), but 20 million is certainly not outside of the realm of possibility, especially considering the nature of mass killings meaning accurate record-keeping is either impossible or not encouraged at the time.
Apologies for my continuous editing, I have a habit of throwing out a post as quickly as possible, then continuing to refine it and correct errors.
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;27918394]Anywhere from 5 to over 10 million died in the Soviet famine of 1932–1933, million and a half from the Soviet Famine of 1947, between half a million to a million executed during the Great Purge, up to half a million from kulak collectivization (specifically, the famines caused by that and execution of non-compliants), up to 2 million died in the gulags, over a million from forced population transfers. Then there's the various war crimes, executions not related to the Great Terror (especially in the Eastern European nations) and so on.
64 million is indeed massively overblown (or they decided to include deaths on the Soviet side during the war, which would be silly), but 20 million is certainly not outside of the realm of possibility, especially considering the nature of mass killings meaning accurate record-keeping is either impossible or not encouraged at the time.
Apologies for my continuous editing, I have a habit of throwing out a post as quickly as possible, then continuing to refine it and correct errors.[/QUOTE]
Holodomor resulted in a death toll of 2.7 million lower class civilians. 5-10 is outrageous as it would be a 1/3 of Ukraine's population at that time. Which is, again, statistically impossible and would pretty much leave entire cities plagued by disease and dead bodies on sidewalks which doesn't make any sense as Ukraine was thriving in the late 30's.
Add the numbers and you get about 5-10 million dead. Give or take based on the sources credibility.
Even if the Russian Communism (Refering to it like this due to the fact the Real theory of Marxism is alright) was bad n'all
You've got to admit, The artwork was fucking cool
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