The 2014 FIFA World Cup Thread - The only time people give a shit about football! - General

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;45239515]what the fuck does this even mean? penalty kicks are not fair? lmao[/QUOTE] They're not fair and have never been. Are you seriously going to disagree with that?

[QUOTE=Big Bang;45239527]They're not fair and have never been. Are you seriously going to disagree with that?[/QUOTE] please explain

[QUOTE=Gwoodman;45239524]He's salty, maybe it's something political related since he's in Venezuela, just ignore him for a while.[/QUOTE] the fuck does this even mean lol? "haha this plebian lives on a shit third world country that means he don't know shit" [editline]28th June 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Zukriuchen;45239531]please explain[/QUOTE] have you ever fucking played football?

[QUOTE=Big Bang;45239527]They're not fair and have never been. Are you seriously going to disagree with that?[/QUOTE] "It's not fair because I say so." Just stop, you're being salty about it and if it was as random as you think, there wouldn't be penalty specific training. Who gives a fuck, Chile lost, Brazil won, in the end only the score matters.

[QUOTE=Big Bang;45239535]have you ever fucking played football?[/QUOTE] Fair: [img]http://puu.sh/9Oddi/14d9393260.png[/img] again, please explain

[QUOTE=Gwoodman;45239543]"It's not fair because I say so." Just stop, you're being salty about it and it it was as random as you think, there wouldn't be penalty specific training. Who gives a fuck, Chile lost, Brazil won, in the end only the score matters.[/QUOTE] It's the most random thing in football today ever since the golden goal shit got removed, are you kidding me? there is NO goalkeeper in the world that can reliably block a significant amount of penalties against the best players in the world, no matter how good they actually are at blocking shots on goal.

[QUOTE=Big Bang;45239581]It's the most random thing in football today ever since the golden goal shit got removed, are you kidding me? there is NO goalkeeper in the world that can reliably block a significant amount of penalties against the best players in the world, no matter how good they actually are at blocking shots on goal.[/QUOTE] random =/= unfair [editline]28th June 2014[/editline] i mean seriously do you even know what unfair means

[QUOTE=Big Bang;45239581]It's the most random thing in football today ever since the golden goal shit got removed, are you kidding me? there is NO goalkeeper in the world that can reliably block a significant amount of penalties against the best players in the world, no matter how good they actually are at blocking shots on goal.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Big Bang;45239535]have you ever fucking played football?[/QUOTE] You're pretty much bullshitting now. Bye. Anyway, Suarez said he lost his balance and fell on Chiellini, what a fucking psychopath.

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;45239585]random =/= unfair[/QUOTE] Are you retarded? If you had to roll a fucking dice every time you scored a goal to determine if it's valid or not would that be fair?

Let's just flip a coin to decide the winner of a match It's not like both sides have an equal opportunity or anything

[QUOTE=Big Bang;45239595]Are you retarded? If you had to roll a fucking dice every time you scored a goal to determine if it's valid or not would that be fair?[/QUOTE] unfair means that one of the sides has a bigger chance of winning than the other i mean bloody hell this is not a hard concept to understand

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;45239609]unfair means that one of the sides has a bigger chance of winning than the other i mean bloody hell this is not a hard concept to understand[/QUOTE] Holy shit you're fucking dense. How is CHANCE more fair than SKILL. How is ignoring what happened for the past 120 minutes to decide the result of the match SOLELY due to luck fair? That shit ain't fair it's only fair when it conveniences you. [editline]28th June 2014[/editline] Craps is now a sport apparently because shooting those dice takes mad skill yo.

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[QUOTE=Big Bang;45239626]Holy shit you're fucking dense. How is CHANCE more fair than SKILL. How is ignoring what happened for the past 120 minutes to decide the result of the match SOLELY due to luck fair? That shit ain't fair it's only fair when it conveniences you.[/QUOTE] if 3 out of 4 penalties go in regardless of the team that's shooting then are the chances not equal?

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;45239656]if 3 out of 4 penalties go in regardless of the team that's shooting then are the chances not equal?[/QUOTE] no man that means that one team gets 2 goals and the other team only gets 1, totally unfair

That match was so fucking staged

incredible goal

[QUOTE=Big Bang;45239595] If you had to roll a fucking dice every time you scored a goal to determine if it's valid or not would that be fair?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Big Bang;45239626]decide the result of the match SOLELY due to luck fair? [/QUOTE] I think taking a penalty is more about skill than luck. Even if the keeper jumps the correct way, the players speed and technique is key.

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;45239656]if 3 out of 4 penalties go in regardless of the team that's shooting then are the chances not equal?[/QUOTE] because that means that a team that didn't have a chance to win beforehand can suddenly win by MERELY getting lucky as opposed to playing better. it also means that no matter how good of a goalkeeper you are you have a very remote chance of actually stopping the ball. you know what isn't random? the actual game, in the actual game teams have the same amount of players, the same amount of playing field, the scoring zone is of the same size and they're playing with the same ball, that means they have equal opportunities of winning but it ultimately falls down to how they perform tactically. A better team will triumph over a lesser team. In fucking penalty kicks that all goes to shit and falls down to a simple game of "don't miss" for the shooter and "jump left or right" for the goalkeeper. do you just not fucking understand that sports should not be about chance or what? or is it just that as a brazilian you just can't grasp the difference between chance and skill? (or paying off a referee and skill) anyway fuck brazil, see you all next Friday when Colombia fucks you up.

you're the definition of upset lmao

woosh

jesus fuck Colombia has improved so god damn much.

[QUOTE=Big Bang;45240041]anyway fuck brazil, see you all next Friday when Colombia fucks you up.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Zukriuchen;45238958][url]http://images.wikia.com/leagueoflegends/images/d/df/Malphite.taunt.ogg[/url][/QUOTE] [editline]28th June 2014[/editline] you know its true

Colombia is actually really, really fucking good.

[QUOTE=Big Bang;45240041]do you just not fucking understand that sports should not be about chance or what? or is it just that as a brazilian you just can't grasp the difference between chance and skill? (or paying off a referee and skill) anyway fuck brazil, see you all next Friday when Colombia fucks you up.[/QUOTE] Chill out, bro. You're being a massive ass right now. I don't like penalty shootout either but we can't wave a magic wand and change it.

[QUOTE=Big Bang;45239353]I'm sorry but penalties are nothing but luck. It doesn't matter if the goalkeeper is Buffon or Casillas, actually stopping a penalty kick is mostly guesswork, the ball moves so fast and the distance is just so short there's just no way to actually see where the ball is coming from. [/QUOTE] Not really, keepers put a lot of work into studying the opposition's penalties and penalty takers. There's an emphasis on judging a player's body language. [URL="http://www.theguardian.com/football/2012/may/20/petr-cech-chelsea-bayern-munich"]Read this article[/URL]. Penalties are at least 75% skill, stop being so bitter.

[QUOTE=Chernobyl426;45240352]Chill out, bro. You're being a massive ass right now.[/QUOTE] I'm not exactly interested in being Zukriuchen or Gwoodman's friend or something lol, fuck them. [QUOTE=WeekendWarrior;45240366]Not really, keepers put a lot of work into studying the opposition's penalties and penalty takers. There's an emphasis on judging a player's body language. [URL="http://www.theguardian.com/football/2012/may/20/petr-cech-chelsea-bayern-munich"]Read this article[/URL]. Penalties are at least 75% skill, stop being so bitter.[/QUOTE] Quotes from the article from Petr Cech: [quote]"I either guessed pretty well or I was ready to guess pretty well,"[/quote] [quote]In the shootout Philipp Lahm and Mario Gomez had managed to squeeze the ball past Cech. Then it was Neuer's turn. "I wasn't expecting it," Cech said. "They have [Jorg] Butt, their other goalkeeper, who takes penalties. His technique is to slow down and wait for the goalkeeper to move, so I wondered if Neuer would do the same. That's why I didn't reach it. I waited and couldn't quite reach it."[/quote] [quote]"I didn't know what to do with Robben," Cech admitted. "Half the time he shoots to the right, half to the left. He even runs up the same way to the ball, whether he's shooting right or left. No pattern, whatsoever. But when you're tired, you've played in 104 or 105 minutes, players choose power rather than technique, rather than placing it. I thought he'd smash it somewhere near the corner and he's left-footed. If I'm left-footed, I thought: 'I'd go across goal' [to the right]. Which is why I went that way."[/quote] He's trying to find patterns in players but even him admits some don't have patterns, he takes some (educated) guesses to determine where the ball was going but even a fantastic goalkeeper like Cech knows that his best chance at stopping the ball if he doesn't know the pattern the other player uses is just relying on his gut feeling and just jump one direction or the other. Here's an article on somebody proposing an alternative to penalty kicks [url]http://www.theroar.com.au/2014/02/02/adg-aims-to-eliminate-penalty-shootout-tragedy/[/url]

[QUOTE=Big Bang;45240540]I'm not exactly interested in being Zukriuchen or Gwoodman's friend or something lol, fuck them.[/QUOTE] mods!!??

Extremely solid game from Colombia.

[QUOTE=Big Bang;45240540]I'm not exactly interested in being Zukriuchen or Gwoodman's friend or something lol, fuck them.[/QUOTE] uhm mods, cyber bullying?