• Abort The Royal Baby - Radical Feminists
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I dont understand the whole "decide your gender" thing. Its really dumb to me. Is it really oppressive that a doctor announces a baby with a dick a guy and a vag a girl? It makes me sad people like this also hold themselves in high regard, and the fact that they exist. why cant people just chill.
I'm pretty sure, since transgenderism is relatively rare and exceptional, it's not exactly unfair to assume it will correlate with sex up until it becomes obvious that this is or is not the case. The only harm it could do is instilling gender roles, but since we all mostly agree that gender is biological and not socially determined then that doesn't really matter. It is a little silly that people obsess over the sex of newborns, but since it's the royal baby succession actually kind of matters. I'm confused though, does the Succession to the Crown Act apply to the new royal baby? So would it not have actually affected succession if it were a girl?
As far as mannerisms and behaviour go, men and women are overall mostly the same.
GUYS PLZ STOP IMPOSING GENDER ROLES ON ME!!!!!!11 I AM OFFEND
[QUOTE='[Seed Eater] I don't see why. I'm a cisgendered white male. It's just a way of describing someone. Not everyone who uses the word do so to shame, it's just an actual thing.[/QUOTE] But it shouldn't be called cisgender It shouldn't have a name at all It should just be called "normal"
[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];41963562'] I don't see why. I'm a cisgendered white male. It's just a way of describing someone. Not everyone who uses the word do so to shame, it's just an actual thing.[/QUOTE] The word 'cisgender' was created as a derogatory term, you might as well be arguing 'I'm a nigger black male. It's just a way of describing someone. Not everyone who uses the word do so to shame, it's just an actual thing.'
[QUOTE=katbug;41964981]But it shouldn't be called cisgender It shouldn't have a name at all It should just be called "normal"[/QUOTE] "Normal" is a subjective term though, whereas cis/trans are more literal and objective. For example, back in the day it was "normal" to stone homosexuals to death, and it was "normal" for the church to persecute intellectuals. Normality is in the eye of the beholder. I don't really have an opinion on the matter but if that's the reason then I see where they're coming from. [QUOTE=ForgottenKane;41965105]The word 'cisgender' was created as a derogatory term, you might as well be arguing the word 'nigger' is just a word that describes people.[/QUOTE] I seriously did not know this. Most of the time I've heard people using the word "cisgender" was to differentiate it from "transgender" in gender studies papers and whatnot. If that's not correct then I apologize.
"Congrats! Its a boy!" [B]"NOT ON MY WATCH."[/B]
[QUOTE=katbug;41964981]But it shouldn't be called cisgender It shouldn't have a name at all It should just be called "normal"[/QUOTE] Should "straight" just be called "normal" also then? [editline]25th August 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=ForgottenKane;41965105]The word 'cisgender' was created as a derogatory term, you might as well be arguing 'I'm a nigger black male. It's just a way of describing someone. Not everyone who uses the word do so to shame, it's just an actual thing.'[/QUOTE] It wasn't.
According to Wikipedia the word "cisgender" was coined in 1995 by a trans man named Carl Bujis because he didn't know how to refer to non-trans people in discussions without delving into subjectivity. I don't see how that's derogatory. I mean sure, there's people who use it in a derogatory manner but the word itself wasn't created with that intent, the guy just wanted a more specific and less subjective word. [editline]s[/editline] [URL="https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!msg/soc.support.transgendered/uQOv7egWih0/Y4nkFd9QSBgJ"]source[/URL]
Wait, wasn't the droid army in the Star Wars prequels CIS?
[QUOTE=Hatley;41965316]Wait, wasn't the droid army in the Star Wars prequels CIS?[/QUOTE] Yes they were cis scum
[QUOTE=Dr. Gestapo;41965223]According to Wikipedia the word "cisgender" was coined in 1995 by a trans man named Carl Bujis because he didn't know how to refer to non-trans people in discussions without delving into subjectivity. I don't see how that's derogatory. I mean sure, there's people who use it in a derogatory manner but the word itself wasn't created with that intent, the guy just wanted a more specific and less subjective word. [editline]s[/editline] [URL="https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!msg/soc.support.transgendered/uQOv7egWih0/Y4nkFd9QSBgJ"]source[/URL][/QUOTE] Yeah well the word 'gay' wasn't originally a derogatory term, neither was 'negro' or 'nigger', but then it became that when when people started using it to offend people.
[QUOTE=Dr. Gestapo;41965223]According to Wikipedia the word "cisgender" was coined in 1995 by a trans man named Carl Bujis because he didn't know how to refer to non-trans people in discussions without delving into subjectivity. I don't see how that's derogatory. I mean sure, there's people who use it in a derogatory manner but the word itself wasn't created with that intent, the guy just wanted a more specific and less subjective word. [editline]s[/editline] [URL="https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!msg/soc.support.transgendered/uQOv7egWih0/Y4nkFd9QSBgJ"]source[/URL][/QUOTE] You can't really say the word cis in a sentence and have it be positive though.
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;41965324]Yes they were cis scum[/QUOTE] Fucking Russians and Kazakhstans.
I like how this thread started, people bashing Cone for his ignorance really warmed my heart. My faith in this forum has been restored [IMG]http://puu.sh/4aSqV/a1489bdc3c.gif[/IMG] [sp] Hellduck [x] Dr. Gestapo [x] DaysBefore [x] Jeep-Eep [ ] Winters [ ] MaxOfS2D [ ] Aspen [ ] Cone [ ] MisterMooth [x] BusterBluth [ ] thisispain [ ] Chaplin [ ][/sp]
lol cisgender isnt even usually used in a derogatory manner, and it is absolutely HILARE that people think it's main purpose is an insult [editline]00:55[/editline] and by hilare i mean utterly stupid
[QUOTE=katbug;41964981]But it shouldn't be called cisgender It shouldn't have a name at all It should just be called "normal"[/QUOTE] That's the problem tho. When we start defining normal then everyone else [I]isn't[/I] and the goal of feminism or any liberation ideal is "hey everyone is now normal". The only reason why cispersons are normal is because we're the in-power majority and the concept of not being anything but is relatively new and unheard of in proper culture of the past. [t]http://rwswj.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/image0031.jpg[/t]
[QUOTE=Hellduck;41966854]lol cisgender isnt even usually used in a derogatory manner, and it is absolutely HILARE that people think it's main purpose is an insult [editline]00:55[/editline] and by hilare i mean utterly stupid[/QUOTE] maybe that tells you more about how people are commonly exposed to the word rather than the stupidity of people
[QUOTE=Shreddinger;41966647]I like how this thread started, people bashing Cone for his ignorance really warmed my heart. My faith in this forum has been restored [IMG]http://puu.sh/4aSqV/a1489bdc3c.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE] uuh cone's consistently one of the best posters on the forum, so you probably shouldnt get too smug [editline]26th August 2013[/editline] and that warming in your heart might just be cardiac arrest btw [editline]26th August 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Cloak Raider;41966915]maybe that tells you more about how people are commonly exposed to the word rather than the stupidity of people[/QUOTE] i think it says more about the selective ignorance of people more than anything
most of those tweets are jokes btw its a pretty common joke on tumblr you guys are looking for tweets in order to support your preconceived notions, pretty pathetic
Its funny how Facepunch arguments against feminism, but at the same time refuses to understand how feminists approach this subject. Kinda disgusts me really how ignorant some people here are, sure we are illogical because we are angry about it being announced that it is a guy but wouldn't it be sweet if the "prince" could grow up in a gender neutral enviorment instead of an enviorment that is scructured by a very old and boring ideology that boys do "boy stuff" and girls do "girl stuff"?
[QUOTE=Shreddinger;41966647]I like how this thread started, people bashing Cone for his ignorance really warmed my heart. My faith in this forum has been restored [IMG]http://puu.sh/4aSqV/a1489bdc3c.gif[/IMG] [sp] Hellduck [x] Dr. Gestapo [x] DaysBefore [x] Jeep-Eep [ ] Winters [ ] MaxOfS2D [ ] Aspen [ ] Cone [ ] MisterMooth [ ] BusterBluth [ ] thisispain [ ] Chaplin [ ][/sp][/QUOTE] waste some more money giving people stupid titles youll sure prove how smart you are
[QUOTE=Jimmymi;41967100]Its funny how Facepunch arguments against feminism, but at the same time refuses to understand how feminists approach this subject. Kinda disgusts me really how ignorant some people here are, sure we are illogical because we are angry about it being announced that it is a guy but wouldn't it be sweet if the "prince" could grow up in a gender neutral enviorment instead of an enviorment that is scructured by a very old and boring ideology that boys do "boy stuff" and girls do "girl stuff"?[/QUOTE] How about prince do whatever the fuck he want and whatever the fuck his parents want because he ain't yo fucking child.
[QUOTE=Shreddinger;41966647]I like how this thread started, people bashing Cone for his ignorance really warmed my heart. My faith in this forum has been restored [IMG]http://puu.sh/4aSqV/a1489bdc3c.gif[/IMG] [sp] Hellduck [x] Dr. Gestapo [x] DaysBefore [x] Jeep-Eep [ ] Winters [ ] MaxOfS2D [ ] Aspen [ ] Cone [ ] MisterMooth [ ] BusterBluth [ ] thisispain [ ] Chaplin [ ][/sp][/QUOTE] that wee list is actually hilariously pathetic
[QUOTE=Shreddinger;41966647]I like how this thread started, people bashing Cone for his ignorance really warmed my heart. My faith in this forum has been restored [IMG]http://puu.sh/4aSqV/a1489bdc3c.gif[/IMG] [sp] Hellduck [x] Dr. Gestapo [x] DaysBefore [x] Jeep-Eep [ ] Winters [ ] MaxOfS2D [ ] Aspen [ ] Cone [ ] MisterMooth [ ] BusterBluth [ ] thisispain [ ] Chaplin [ ][/sp][/QUOTE] I aspire to one day be on this list I am not trying hard enough
[QUOTE=lintz;41967133]How about prince do whatever the fuck he want and whatever the fuck his parents want because he ain't yo fucking child.[/QUOTE] So you seriously think that his parents is going to decide who he will become? Also, he is a child that is also going to symbolise a new generation so how he will become and what ideal he will have will make an impact.
[QUOTE=Jimmymi;41967100]Its funny how Facepunch arguments against feminism, but at the same time refuses to understand how feminists approach this subject. Kinda disgusts me really how ignorant some people here are, sure we are illogical because we are angry about it being announced that it is a guy but wouldn't it be sweet if the "prince" could grow up in a gender neutral enviorment instead of an enviorment that is scructured by a very old and boring ideology that boys do "boy stuff" and girls do "girl stuff"?[/QUOTE] Why are you assuming he isn't?
[img]http://31.media.tumblr.com/2178733c35cff31dae0736a7f36e934b/tumblr_ms26poMOPU1rnkh17o1_1280.png[/img] omg have you guys seen this tweet? those tumblr activists have gone too far
[QUOTE=Jimmymi;41967188]So you seriously think that his parents is going to decide who he will become? Also, he is a child that is also going to symbolise a new generation so how he will become and what ideal he will have will make an impact.[/QUOTE] His parents is gonna be king and queen one day and also they're his fucking parents, they're going to have some impact on his development. At least until he's capable of making his own decisions.
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