• Abort The Royal Baby - Radical Feminists
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[QUOTE=Venezuelan;41967200]Why are you assuming he isn't?[/QUOTE] Since it was announced that he "is a boy". Those three letters make a greater impact in some peoples minds than you would believe, especially in this generation, where having a mind that uses critique is very important for the growth of our social and general behavior.
king and princess consort [editline]26th August 2013[/editline] not king and queen
[QUOTE=Jimmymi;41967241]Since it was announced that he "is a boy". Those three letters make a greater impact in some peoples minds than you would believe, especially in this generation, where having a mind that uses critique is very important for the growth of our social and general behavior.[/QUOTE] That's a problem with society. Ain't no point trying to change yourself for society to accept you, you gotta change society to accept you.
[QUOTE=lintz;41967223]His parents is gonna be king and queen one day and also they're his fucking parents, they're going to have some impact on his development. At least until he's capable of making his own decisions.[/QUOTE] But what if he could not be aware that theres "boy stuff" and "girl stuff" all through his childhood? Instead of his parents forcing boy related things onto him. Don't get me started with the "Oh hes going to get bullied for playing with barbies if he has a penis bla bla bla." since its just that thing we are supposed to get rid of out of our normal everyday norms, that there aren't any gender roles. [editline]26th August 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=lintz;41967272]That's a problem with society. Ain't no point trying to change yourself for society to accept you, you gotta change society to accept you.[/QUOTE] Huh? So you see no point in trying to change society? You must be a very weak person.
[QUOTE=Jimmymi;41967290]But what if he could not be aware that theres "boy stuff" and "girl stuff" all through his childhood? Instead of his parents forcing boy related things onto him. Don't get me started with the "Oh hes going to get bullied for playing with barbies if he has a penis bla bla bla." since its just that thing we are supposed to get rid of out of our normal everyday norms, that there aren't any gender roles.[/QUOTE] Don't shove words in my mouth, foo, we're on the same side here. Awareness or no, William and Kate seem like cool enough people to let their son do whatever. If he leans towards playing with dolls, I don't think they'd stop him. fucking hell i played with dolls as a kid and it didn't mess with me any. [editline]26th August 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Jimmymi;41967290]Huh? So you see no point in trying to change society? You must be a very weak person.[/QUOTE] You need to read more carefully. As in, read what I wrote properly. I said "don't bother trying to change yourself to fit into society" I said "you have to change society to accept you" I literally said the exact opposite of what you thought I said.
[QUOTE=Jimmymi;41967241]Since it was announced that he "is a boy". Those three letters make a greater impact in some peoples minds than you would believe, especially in this generation, where having a mind that uses critique is very important for the growth of our social and general behavior.[/QUOTE] So do you believe that transgenderism is a valid thing because the belief that gender is an entirely ungrounded social construct is kind of contrary to that. All signs point to gender identity being a biological, tangible thing. So if the kid wants to play with Barbies yeah sure let him. And that doesn't mean "oh man he identifies as a girl". But you really don't need to go out of your way to sanitize everything. Boys and girls actually do like different stuff. The kid will let you know what he likes. There's a difference between "NO YOU CAN NOT PLAY WITH GIRL TOYS" and "well he'll probably like this because he's a little boy". The latter isn't an affront on his personal gender freedom it's just an assumption for toys that is ultimately inconsequential. I grew up all into wrestling and I still turned out a beta pussy. It doesn't really matter. You know what would have sucked though? My parents denying me a toy I wanted because it was too gender binary.
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;41967344]So do you believe that transgenderism is a valid thing because the All signs point to gender identity being a biological, tangible thing.[/QUOTE] citation needed* Also, you might want to watch this. [video=youtube;xXAoG8vAyzI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXAoG8vAyzI[/video]
[QUOTE=Shreddinger;41967413]citation needed* [/QUOTE] [url]http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa022236?hits=20&andorexactfulltext=and&searchid=1081207688152_68&excludeflag=TWEEK_element&author2=gearhart%2C+j&author1=reiner%2C+w&tmonth=Apr&sortspec=Score+desc+PUBDATE_SORTDATE+desc&fmonth=Apr&andorexacttitleabs=and&FIRSTINDEX=0&fyear=1994&journalcode=nejm&searchtitle=Authors&tyear=2004&sendit=GO&search_tab=authors&[/url]
YOU might want to watch it shreddinger ffs [editline]26th August 2013[/editline] sober up
wow you already determined the 3,000 word source I posted was "dumb" in two minutes surely no bias there
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;41967532]wow you already determined the 3,000 word source I posted was "dumb" in two minutes surely no bias there[/QUOTE] Who needs peer-reviewed sources when you have Youtube vlogs?
I never really got why people freaked out about those tweets. They're either people making obvious jokes, or transfolk using a well known event to point out the absurdity in obsessing over the gender of a newborn baby (because that sort of thing is kinda the reason they've suffered so much in the first place).
[QUOTE=Cone;41962573]i too enjoy circlejerking about people that don't exist, why just last week i saw Pol Pot and Hitler's cyborg furry lovechild on the street and you can bet i put him in his place!![/QUOTE] lol what I see crackers like this all the time have you ever been to a college campus
[QUOTE=thisispain;41967088]most of those tweets are jokes btw its a pretty common joke on tumblr you guys are looking for tweets in order to support your preconceived notions, pretty pathetic[/QUOTE] nice to call it a joke and claim conformational bias but you've got someone saying pretty much the exact same things sandwiched between your posts. you can point to the ones you get the thread title from and claim they were only pretending to be retarded, but you have the majority of the posts in the compilation image being "they shouldn't raise them as a boy in case they want to be trans". if that's just a joke then you've still got plenty of people not in on it.
[QUOTE=Tweevle;41967683]I never really got why people freaked out about those tweets. They're either people making obvious jokes, or transfolk using a well known event to point out the absurdity in obsessing over the gender of a newborn baby (because that sort of thing is kinda the reason they've suffered so much in the first place).[/QUOTE] Probably because with SJW types (keep in mind I'm not talking about all feminists/general activists just a select minority. Obviously not all feminists are like a stereotypical SJW despite what MRA types ala r/theredpill might think) it's hard to tell when they're being serious about certain things related to these sort of issues and when they're making jokes (aka Poe's Law). Like some Tumblr blogs and twitter accounts are obvious parodies/satires (ex: WhiteFeminist on twitter or death-2-whitecismanapes on tumblr) but some are hard to tell especially when other similar types of posts are actually serious.
[QUOTE=Devodiere;41967800]nice to call it a joke and claim conformational bias but you've got someone saying pretty much the exact same things sandwiched between your posts.[/QUOTE] yeah pretty nice [QUOTE=Devodiere;41967800]you can point to the ones you get the thread title from and claim they were only pretending to be retarded, but you have the majority of the posts in the compilation image being "they shouldn't raise them as a boy in case they want to be trans". if that's just a joke then you've still got plenty of people not in on it.[/QUOTE] no they were obviously joking anyone who is as well-versed in the tumblr universe as this forum claims to be would see that even if they were serious, big fucking deal, why even care
[QUOTE=Shreddinger;41966647] [sp] Hellduck [x] Dr. Gestapo [x] DaysBefore [x] Jeep-Eep [ ] Winters [ ] MaxOfS2D [ ] Aspen [ ] Cone [ ] MisterMooth [ ] BusterBluth [ ] thisispain [ ] Chaplin [ ][/sp][/QUOTE] pfft [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1228365&p=38598916&viewfull=1#post38598916"]my FP social justice warrior list[/URL] was way better and more exhaustive than yours
[QUOTE=thisispain;41968229]yeah pretty nice no they were obviously joking anyone who is as well-versed in the tumblr universe as this forum claims to be would see that even if they were serious, big fucking deal, why even care[/QUOTE] So is Jimmymi joking as well?
whats so objectionable about what jimmymi is saying and jimmymi has a very different tone from the tweets in the op
if feminism was a real thing i should be able to hide little cards with swear words in women's purses without getting into the same type of trouble i wouldn't get if i did the same thing to men.
[QUOTE=thisispain;41968746]whats so objectionable about what jimmymi is saying and jimmymi has a very different tone from the tweets in the op[/QUOTE] I'm mostly just curious, though I guess I just don't see how declaring that the prince happens to be male is really such an indicator that they'll raise him with a strict "boys do boy things girls do girl things" mindset. Granted I know next to nothing about the British royal family and it could be that they're assholes like that but eh.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFKmzR5Aejg[/media]
[QUOTE=God's Pimp Hand;41968402]pfft [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1228365&p=38598916&viewfull=1#post38598916"]my FP social justice warrior list[/URL] was way better and more exhaustive than yours[/QUOTE] im not even on it
[QUOTE=Shreddinger;41966647]I like how this thread started, people bashing Cone for his ignorance really warmed my heart. My faith in this forum has been restored [IMG]http://puu.sh/4aSqV/a1489bdc3c.gif[/IMG] [sp] Hellduck [x] Dr. Gestapo [x] DaysBefore [x] Jeep-Eep [ ] Winters [ ] MaxOfS2D [ ] Aspen [ ] Cone [ ] MisterMooth [x] BusterBluth [ ] thisispain [ ] Chaplin [ ][/sp][/QUOTE] I haven't even posted in like 4 months and I'm still on your list? Jeez, I guess grudges die hard.
If our future King plays with Barbies and wears dresses, there will be fucking hell to pay.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/9ewClLI.png[/img] this is actually a post on my twitter and no i don't care about censoring the account name because i find it legitimately that stupid
[QUOTE=ScratchNsniff;41972662]If our future King plays with Barbies and wears dresses, there will be fucking hell to pay.[/QUOTE] Why do you care so much about a tourist attraction?
I'm like, really really supportive for LGBT but these people are extremely retarded and don't deserve a say in any LGBT rights because they will make everyone thing LGBT supports are generally that stupid radicals, please stop ruining it for us with your retarded insane bullshit like "let the baby assume its own gender", the gender is whatever the fuck the baby is born unless the boy grows up and just happens to want to become something else. It's worked for tens of thousands of years. if you force a gender on a kid that they aren't born as they'll end up fucked for the rest of the rest of their lives, you can't just do it on the slim chance "They might become trans" because trans is pretty rare. And telling the kid to just choose themselves, well, what are you going to call the baby? "IT" until it decides what it is? what'll just confuse the shit out of the kid, making it not know what gender it is. hell, they just said it was a boy because they kind of have to? and because it can change a lot. I wish people were smart enough to realize that while males and females are equal, they're not the same thing.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/kEDouEa.png[/IMG] [video=youtube;SedRIymMrRE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SedRIymMrRE[/video]
[QUOTE=J!NX;41975465]I'm like, really really supportive for LGBT but these people are extremely retarded and don't deserve a say in any LGBT rights because they will make everyone thing LGBT supports are generally that stupid radicals, please stop ruining it for us with your retarded insane bullshit like "let the baby assume its own gender", the gender is whatever the fuck the baby is born unless the boy grows up and just happens to want to become something else. It's worked for tens of thousands of years. if you force a gender on a kid that they aren't born as they'll end up fucked for the rest of the rest of their lives, you can't just do it on the slim chance "They might become trans" because trans is pretty rare. And telling the kid to just choose themselves, well, what are you going to call the baby? "IT" until it decides what it is? what'll just confuse the shit out of the kid, making it not know what gender it is. hell, they just said it was a boy because they kind of have to? and because it can change a lot. I wish people were smart enough to realize that while males and females are equal, they're not the same thing.[/QUOTE] umm who made you king of queers "radicals" have just as much input on this issue as you do buddy
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