Nintendo Switch Off: Defective units and design flaws - General

[QUOTE=Steel & Iron;51916920][url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZXpr7a4tY4]All he did was leave it on and plugged in all night[/url][/QUOTE] by his own account [B]he turned it off[/B] during initial setup and left it overnight to charge. knowing DSP though, this probably actually means he turned it off while it was trying to update, and/or that he failed to plug the charger into the base and left it idling til it died, and he hadn't figured out it just didn't have charge by the time he recorded this I'll believe everyone else in the OP vid is having problems but DSP is such a techno-hypochondriac that I have trouble believing he's anything but the source of his own problems

Honestly I really want to get a Switch because it looks like a really fun console, especially to take to a mates house with a group of friends and play couch multiplayer like Mario Kart, but I think i'll hold off and wait until Nintendo do something about the issues and maybe until the console gets a price drop/bundle deals. The new Zelda game is identical on the Wii U to the Switch, so at-least I can still play that for now. [editline]6th March 2017[/editline] The Switch is pretty expensive in AU aswell, $469...

[QUOTE=Gray Altoid;51918213]Cutting hazard? what? [t]http://i.imgur.com/Blpgekl.png[/t] You can't cut yourself on this.[/QUOTE] of course you can, run your thumb across that and there you go [editline]5th March 2017[/editline] that's why literally everyone just puts duct tape on top of that to still be able to use it

[QUOTE=dai;51918226]by his own account [B]he turned it off[/B] during initial setup and left it overnight to charge. this probably means he turned it off while it was trying to update, and/or that he failed to plug in its charger and left it idling til it died, and he hadn't figured out it just didn't have charge by the time he recorded this I'll believe everyone else in the OP vid is having problems but DSP is such a techno-hypochondriac that I have trouble believing he's anything but the source of his own problems[/QUOTE] He also bricked a PS3 because he doesn't bother to clean anything ever and it choked itself to death with dust.

[QUOTE=Gray Altoid;51918213]Cutting hazard? what? [t]http://i.imgur.com/Blpgekl.png[/t] You can't cut yourself on this.[/QUOTE] i have held many broken screens like that myself, and i could feel the ridges. hell you can even see them on that picture: [t]http://i.imgur.com/4FEh6Wx.png[/t] i'd wager and say that a lot of these issues are very small cases, as are with most launch consoles. this is a video of about 20 or so people experiencing issues, out of 2 million consoles sold worldwide. Obviously the number is a lot bigger than that. I'd wager issues like these are less than 0.1% of people worldwide, as it always has been with hardware launches. And if you have a defect, just bring it back to the store in a couple weeks when (hopefully) there's more systems in stock. If that isn't the case, Nintendo's warranty should still cover weird sound issues or the screen popping out. the one biggest problem is the design, specifically the whole dock issue. Though i can say from my experience that it looks good on both sides. There's padding-ish placed on the left and right sides (it's just plastic ridges, eugh..) and when you slide it in it will only ever scratch the margins and the back if you put it in rough. Still, I'd hope Nintendo would do a recall akin to when they were sending out free Wii Jackets and improved Wriststraps back in the Wii days. If the Switch is successful enough, I can see them doing that.

[QUOTE=Plaster;51918286]of course you can, run your thumb across that and there you go [editline]5th March 2017[/editline] that's why literally everyone just puts duct tape on top of that to still be able to use it[/QUOTE] My friends are just extremely lucky I guess, whoops. Every time one of their iPhone screens broke, it was just a shitload of cracks but still smooth to the touch.

[QUOTE] Bricking during or after day one update [/QUOTE] You would think Nintendo would not repeat their Wii U mistake when any problem during ridiculously long day one update will leave you with the bricked console.

[QUOTE=Megalan;51918533]You would think Nintendo would not repeat their Wii U mistake when any problem during ridiculously long day one update will leave you with the bricked console.[/QUOTE] The day one update for the switch literally takes a few seconds, I don't get how people already bricked their switch

Yeah, the day one update is tiny.

[QUOTE=Talvy;51917676]Usually a lock screen comes [I]before[/I] selecting an app, but I guess this works.[/QUOTE] ??? That is the screen that shows the currently running game after waking it up from sleep mode.

Christ almighty... I honestly was not expecting this. This pisses me off for a few reasons. The big one being that I 100% believe the switch is going to have the same treatment as the 3ds. (NEW Nintendo Switch release) "Haha you bought the first version? Thanks for beta testing!" -Every one on /v/ Not only that but there is no excuse for it to have this many issues. The scratched screen, games not working, horrible noises, things not syncing, little parts breaking left and right. It's as if the entire thing was glued together. The cherry on top is the console, and it's games are expensive. And like Disney, Nintendo will hardly ever discount their products because it's Nintendo exlusive. You want to play the new games of those IPs you love so much? Well then buy our gimmick console that is an entire generation behind the PS4, and Xbox 1 which are already 3 years old. I was excited for the switch when I started to see all of the games that were going to be released for it. However at this point it is no where near worth it. Should have just made the console $100 more expensive, and actually put some quality materials into the damn thing. You know, like a glass screen maybe??? Literally NO excuse at this point. WTF Nintendo

I think this is the most trouble NIntendo has ever had with a launch, i wonder if Nvidia handled some of the production and lost some of that Nintendo quality control. Either way, im sure it will be fixed and im glad im waiting or maybe not getting one.

Usually radical new innovations start off pretty fucking terrible. Look at every first gen new innovation and it can be pretty crap. (the first Surface Pro and RT always come to mind)

Well that sucks. Hopefully later runs can sort out these issues. Not having enough money to buy one has actually been a blessing in disguise, it seems.

[QUOTE=redBadger;51919383]Usually radical new innovations start off pretty fucking terrible. Look at every first gen new innovation and it can be pretty crap. (the first Surface Pro and RT always come to mind)[/QUOTE] It's not the radical things that are breaking though. * Screen materials are pretty well established at this point because we've had a decade's worth of smartphones. * Color calibration and QA on screens isn't rocket science either. * Dead pixels on new displays are inexcusable. * Plastic nibblets breaking off the latching mechanisms should have come out in initial QA. Shit gets dropped. Plan for it. etc etc. I won't go into the other hardware/software bugs because we don't know how consistent of a problem those are as of yet, but the above should not be happening. There is nothing revolutionary about any of those points.

Nintendo needs to either back Microsoft or Sony and give them all the exclusives. It's the only way they will survive.

[QUOTE=Smoovedawg1;51919439]Nintendo needs to either back Microsoft or Sony and give them all the exclusives. It's the only way they will survive.[/QUOTE] it's not a nintendo hardware launch without somebody claiming they're doomed and will never survive unless they obsolete the point of making their hardware different and divide profits at the mercy of their competitors

[QUOTE=Smoovedawg1;51919439]Nintendo needs to either back Microsoft or Sony and give them all the exclusives. It's the only way they will survive.[/QUOTE] Serious question, are you mentally retarded? [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Flaming" - Novangel))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=Smoovedawg1;51919439]Nintendo needs to either back Microsoft or Sony and give them all the exclusives. It's the only way they will survive.[/QUOTE] [url=http://nintendotoday.com/nintendo-not-doomed/]Stop with this bullshit already.[/url] [QUOTE]Buried in reams of financial data is the revelation that Nintendo have 812.8 billion Yen (£6.7/$10.5 billion) in the bank – enough for it to take a 20 billion Yen loss (£163/$257 million) every year until 2052. Then there’s almost 469 billion Yen (£3.8/$6.0 billion) held in premises, equipment and investments. When that runs out – we’re in the year 2075 by this point – they’ve got some of the most valuable intellectual property in gaming to sell off before the company goes out of business.[/QUOTE]

this whole thing is dumb. aint no defective units. just idiots breaking their stuff, as usual. outside of dead pixels anyway.

Yeah Smoove's post was inflammatory and poorly thought out, but really, how much more can Nintendo take? They already have a lot riding against them seeing as they operate in very unconventional ways, can they really afford to start having their consoles wrought with errors and defects like the other two big consoles? Seems to me that quality control should be very important to Nintendo, especially these days when their relatively underpowered consoles are only surviving on exclusives and that 'nintendo' experience.

[QUOTE=WillerinV1.02;51919478]Yeah Smoove's post was inflammatory and poorly thought out, but really, how much more can Nintendo take? They already have a lot riding against them seeing as they operate in very unconventional ways, can they really afford to start having their consoles wrought with errors and defects like the other two big consoles? [/QUOTE] it's not wrought with errors. it's a handful of units and most of that is mishandling of the product. internet hyperbole strikes again

It just doesn't seem that way to me. I'm seeing plenty of reports, including from people I know in real life. But it hasn't really been enough time for these numbers to properly pan out yet, so I'm waitingg to see. To blame it all on "mishandling" seems pretty unfair.

[QUOTE=Smoovedawg1;51919439]Nintendo needs to either back Microsoft or Sony and give them all the exclusives. It's the only way they will survive.[/QUOTE] yadda yadda nintendo doomed [t]http://i.imgur.com/AjrvYgM.png[/t] [editline]6th March 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=WillerinV1.02;51919478]Yeah Smoove's post was inflammatory and poorly thought out, but really, how much more can Nintendo take? They already have a lot riding against them seeing as they operate in very unconventional ways, can they really afford to start having their consoles wrought with errors and defects like the other two big consoles? Seems to me that quality control should be very important to Nintendo, especially these days when their relatively underpowered consoles are only surviving on exclusives and that 'nintendo' experience.[/QUOTE] You do know it's not every console right? Just like the other consoles that has Day 1 Defects. This stuff happens all the time. You can't get every bug before it's released, sometimes it just depends on how a person uses it. From wifi settings to where they have the console placed. From where they got it from, to when it was bought.

[QUOTE=Rusty100;51919483]it's not wrought with errors. it's a handful of units and most of that is mishandling of the product. internet hyperbole strikes again[/QUOTE] Don't really see how you can argue that the screen scratching isn't a problem. If it's being scratched up just going into the dock after a few uses it's going to be scratched to shit and back during everyday use, and that's completely unavoidable.

You also need to take into account the whole vocal minority thing. People who were unfortunate enough to get a busted system, or broke it on their own, are bound to more noise over things than people who have had no issues so you're bound to see more negative stuff than positive. As someone who has done QA/QC on systems it's impossible to find every little issue with the product. The public is bound to find issues that weren't found in testing because they're unpredictable when it comes to how they treat the system once it's in their hands. But that doesn't excuse the Joycon desync though since that's a major loss in functionality, although it does sound similar to what happened to the new Xbone controllers with bluetooth that was able to be patched out with drivers. [editline]5th March 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Zephyrs;51919554]Don't really see how you can argue that the screen scratching isn't a problem. If it's being scratched up just going into the dock after a few uses it's going to be scratched to shit and back during everyday use, and that's completely unavoidable.[/QUOTE] I tried to scratch the screen on the system I own and wasn't able to get much of anything but a few smudges. It's mix of user error and bad design from the way I see. You can easily take the tablet in and out of the dock without it coming into the contact with the section that's causing the scratches.

[QUOTE=Makol;51919591]I tried to scratch the screen on the system I own and wasn't able to get much of anything but a few smudges. It's mix of user error and bad design from the way I see. You can easily take the tablet in and out of the dock without it coming into the contact with the section that's causing the scratches.[/QUOTE] Given the inconsistency with the color calibration possibility indicating different panel suppliers, is it that much of a stretch to say that there may very well be different screen covers floating around? There's a lot of people saying that it's showing up after even as few as dozen dockings. That should not be even remotely possible unless it comes in a bag of sand.

[QUOTE=Zephyrs;51919618]Given the inconsistency with the color calibration possibility indicating different panel suppliers, is it that much of a stretch to say that there may very well be different screen covers floating around? There's a lot of people saying that it's showing up after even as few as dozen dockings. That should not be even remotely possible unless it comes in a bag of sand.[/QUOTE] I would assume that if there are two different types of screens being used they'd have different covers.

[QUOTE=Zephyrs;51919554]Don't really see how you can argue that the screen scratching isn't a problem. If it's being scratched up just going into the dock after a few uses it's going to be scratched to shit and back during everyday use, and that's completely unavoidable.[/QUOTE] i have a habbit of using a screen protectors on everything, i don't see why you'd risk not having one in the first place

[QUOTE=Rusty100;51919473]this whole thing is dumb. aint no defective units. just idiots breaking their stuff, as usual. outside of dead pixels anyway.[/QUOTE] Haha yeah all these idiots trusting the safety and good design of the product only for it to brick itself, damage itself or lack basic advertised functions [editline]6th March 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Rusty100;51919655]i have a habbit of using a screen protectors on everything, i don't see why you'd risk not having one in the first place[/QUOTE] Screen protectors exist to mitigate the user accidentally damaging the device, not to make sure the device doesn't damage itself If they're so important to make sure the product doesn't scratch its own screen then how about Nintendo throws in a few of them in the box ?