I want to try smoking weed - General

[QUOTE=Conscript;20181327]ask your friends first. what grade are you again?[/QUOTE] 10

[img]http://wonderfulworldofcannabis.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/nida-comparison.bmp[/img] Pretty much as dangerous as caffeine.

[QUOTE=Asm;20181313]When I did it I got massive chest pain for like an hour and I generally didnt like it. Then I looked at the bong I used twice and it already had black stains near the water. So I just thought... 'IMAGINE WHAT MY LUNGS LOOK LIKE IF I KEEP DOING IT' Then stopped[/QUOTE] That's from the ashes, that's why it's black and that's why it's in your bong... because it isn't in your lungs.

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[QUOTE=Micr0;20181346][img]http://wonderfulworldofcannabis.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/nida-comparison.bmp[/img] Pretty much as dangerous as caffeine.[/QUOTE] that doesn't really look right at all. which is surprising because it's NIDA. how is alcohol withdrawal worse then heroin withdrawal? cigs are more addictive then heroin? [QUOTE=fuck you;20181345]10[/QUOTE] you shouldn't have a problem then. find out if any of your friends smoke and see if they can hook you up or let you smoke with them. preferably the latter. more fun

[QUOTE=Micr0;20181346][img]http://wonderfulworldofcannabis.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/nida-comparison.bmp[/img] Pretty much as dangerous as caffeine.[/QUOTE] I was looking at that thinking the higher it was, the more serious. :v:

[QUOTE=Misael;20181351]That's from the ashes, that's why it's black and that's why it's in your bong... because it isn't in your lungs.[/QUOTE] This. From wiki: [Quote]The water can trap some heavier particles and water-soluble molecules, preventing them from entering the smoker's airways.[/Quote]

[QUOTE=Conscript;20181402]that doesn't really look right at all. which is surprising because it's NIDA. how is alcohol withdrawal worse then heroin withdrawal? how is caffeine more intoxicating then weed? cigs are more addictive then heroin?[/QUOTE] You're looking at it wrong.

weed is bad

Get a job and become a productive member of society.

[QUOTE=deathrat;20181413]You're looking at it wrong.[/QUOTE] yea for one of them I was, just edited it out. the other two though are right

Don't smoke because you just wanna try it. Wtf, are there any other asthma weed smokers? make your lungs worse! Seriously, don't go near em.

[QUOTE=Conscript;20181433]yea for one of them I was, just edited it out. the other two though are right[/QUOTE] Nicotine is probably more physically addictive than heroine, while heroine is both physically and mentally addictive. Not sure about alchohol and heroine withdrawals though. [editline]08:12PM[/editline] [QUOTE=t-man;20181446]Don't smoke because you just wanna try it. Wtf, are there any other asthma weed smokers? make your lungs worse! Seriously, don't go near em.[/QUOTE] You shouldn't say anything unless you know some facts first.

It won't hurt you. While I've heard weed may fuck with brain cells, I doubt it will be severe enough to harm you in the long run. Your biggest threat is getting caught. BE SMART. Other than that, have fun.

its great...just try it

[QUOTE=Metanoia;20181188]I have exercise-induced asthma. When I run for too long, I pretty much feel like dying & start vomiting and stuff. The bud isn't a problem for me.[/QUOTE] that's not asthma...

[QUOTE=Teal Moose;20181523]It won't hurt you. While I've heard weed may fuck with brain cells, I doubt it will be severe enough to harm you in the long run. Your biggest threat is getting caught. BE SMART. Other than that, have fun.[/QUOTE] I don't think it does. I'm pretty sure everything I've seen on weed killing brain cells has been debunked. Some say it can promote neurogenesis in part of the brain (generation of cells, and the area of the brain is the hippocampus, which is related to memory). My grandmother was put on Marinol to aid in alzheimers treatment.

[QUOTE=fuck you;20181067]However, I have mild asthma as long as I can remember, and I am 15 years old now, which effects my physical activities alot. Smoking makes asthma worst, no? Well how about weed? Any asthmatic weed smokers here? I would like to take a few puffs and get high, other then taking a few puffs and going to the hospital from an asthma attack. [editline]4:40PM[/editline] Fuck, wrong forum, move this to Drug Discussion plox[/QUOTE]Yeah it's not like it's gonna kill you or anything, it's just weed dude, it'll probably help the asthma instead of make it worse

[QUOTE=Micr0;20181346][IMG]http://wonderfulworldofcannabis.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/nida-comparison.bmp[/IMG] Pretty much as dangerous as caffeine.[/QUOTE] HAI GUYS! Look at my totally reliable and useful graph: [IMG]http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y192/BobMa/drugs.png[/IMG] Seriously that graph is complete bullshit, what the fuck is a "level 5 withdrawal" vs a "level 6 withdrawal" you can't quantify that shit with numbers, and besides many of those are flat out wrong. Anyone can slap N.I.D.A on a graph and a doctor's name on it. That graph is pure garbage.

[QUOTE=Socram;20181719]HAI GUYS! Look at my totally reliable and useful graph: [IMG]http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y192/BobMa/drugs.png[/IMG] Seriously that graph is complete bullshit, what the fuck is a "level 5 withdrawal" vs a "level 6 withdrawal" you can't quantify that shit with numbers, and besides many of those are flat out wrong. Anyone can slap N.I.D.A on a graph and a doctor's name on it. That graph is pure garbage.[/QUOTE] Well Dr. Henningfield is more of a psychiatrist than a medical doctor, which I don't like, but here's the difference between the author of your graph and the author of the other: [Quote]Dr Henningfield has investigated addictive drugs, including alcohol, cocaine, marijuana, morphine, and nicotine, as well as medications for treating addiction and other disorders. Much of his research was conducted at the National Institute on Drug Abuse where he was a principal investigator and directed several laboratories dedicated to the study of addictive drugs and addiction treatment from 1980 until 1996. He has also taught and conducted research at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine since 1978. One of Dr. Henningfield’s major areas of research has been on tobacco and nicotine. His research has contributed to the understanding of nicotine as an addictive drug, and has advanced the treatment of tobacco dependence and withdrawal. He continues his research and public health efforts by working with non-governmental organizations on public health policy, academic institutions in their research and training efforts, and pharmaceutical companies in their medications development and evaluation efforts. Dr. Henningfield continues to serve as advisor and consultant to various departments of the U.S. Federal Government, the World Health Organization, and other organizations that address issues of tobacco, drug addiction and health. Dr. Henningfield has published more than 300 journal articles and book chapters, several books and monographs, and contributed to numerous reports of the U.S. Surgeon General, the National Academy of Sciences, and the World Health Organization. Dr. Henningfield is past President of the Society for Research on Nicotine and Tobacco, a charter fellow of the College on Problems of Drug Dependence, and Senior Advisor to The Robert Wood Johnson Foundation’s Tobacco Etiology Research Network that is studying the science base for preventing tobacco addiction. He has received awards from the U.S. Public Health Service, the World Health Organization, and international organizations dedicated to public health and addiction control for his research and efforts to increase the participation of ethnic minorities in drug addiction science. Dr. Henningfield is the recipient of The Robert Wood Johnson Foundation’s Innovators Combating Substance Abuse Award in 2000, which he used to support efforts to assess and disseminate the science foundation for tobacco control policy. Dr. Henningfield is a summa cum laude graduate of the University of Minnesota (B.A., 1974), where he also obtained his Ph.D. in psychology, with a supporting program in psychopharmacology (1977). Additional training included fellowships from the National Council on Alcoholism and the National Institute on Drug Abuse.[/Quote] But your point on the withdrawal levels being subjective is probably correct (though I doubt they're completely unfounded).

withdrawal isn't entirely subjective. physical withdrawal is very much objective and documentable.

Reminded me of this: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zcrb1ff1xs[/media]

I have asthma and smoke some weed, just occasionally, doesnt make my asthma any worse really. Smoking tobacco only makes it worse for me in large quantities, I only really smoke when i go out with friends drinking though. Just in case, I would advise you to bring your ventolin/reliever and if you have them some of the steroids just to be extra safe :)

[IMG]http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y192/BobMa/drugs-1.png[/IMG] Happy now? All I'm trying to say is that the graph is completely unsupported with and documents or sources asides from a name. Anyone can put a REAL psychiatrists name on a graph. And please Mr. Conscript tell me about a level 3 withdrawal? or perhaps a level 4 tolerance.

Even if the graph is inaccurate, it still explains what I'm trying to say. It's been scientifically proven to be less harmful than tobacco and alcohol and is blown way out of proportion by the media.

How does an inaccurate graph validate your argument? That's ridiculous you just contradicted yourself.

[QUOTE=deathrat;20181403]I was looking at that thinking the higher it was, the more serious. :v:[/QUOTE] Ban Caffine!

[QUOTE=Socram;20181952][IMG]http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y192/BobMa/drugs-1.png[/IMG] Happy now? All I'm trying to say is that the graph is completely unsupported with and documents or sources asides from a name. Anyone can put a REAL psychiatrists name on a graph. And please Mr. Conscript tell me about a level 3 withdrawal? or perhaps a level 4 tolerance.[/QUOTE] Okay, let's get a second opinion from Dr. Neal Benowitz of the University of California. [IMG]http://i46.tinypic.com/ic926g.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=Socram;20181952] And please Mr. Conscript tell me about a level 3 withdrawal? or perhaps a level 4 tolerance.[/QUOTE] what numbers are used is arbitrary, the degrees of severity of the withdrawal however, are not. heroin withdrawal is of course going to be higher on any scale then, say, nicotine. Whether we assign heroin to 6 or 600 on the scale doesn't matter. so yes we can quantify withdrawal. very easily actually

You don't get it, my arguement is not that this particular doctor is not qualified or non-existent. It's just these charts and table cite no evidence, just a name and some numbers. These are just people's opinions if they can't back it up with some sort of real evidence, an actual study or SOMETHING.