Well shit it's wednesday and I'm all outta money and drugs... hmmm gotta make some money somehow.
Also, what's the difference between taking medications every day, drinking coffee every day, and smoking weed every day?
I would think weed would be the middleground of the three as far as health go.
I could be a gray, lifeless blob of sleep for 8 hours with medication, giddy, productively introspective, and humorous for 2 hours with weed, or hyped and stimulated for 30 minutes with coffee.
It's all a risk for the brain and heart, so it's a balance for sure.
I think the reason why we see some addictions as good (medications which the user is dependent on for eradicating a disease or maintaining symptoms) and some as bad (recreation drug addiction where use went from willing-ful use to compulsive use which debilitates the user) is based on the bias that addiction is a black and white definition, when in reality is a very fluid phenomena both influenced by a case by case basis and societal norms. We can all agree here that any activity by definition can become an addiction. Now whenever we say that people want to point fingers at what is a "real" addiction and what isn't. Tons of obese people out there are addicted to food, by being conditioned to eat larger portions more often and eating empty calorie snacks constantly along with the lack of exercise, yet people debate whether it is a "real" addiction saying the same stupid shit people used to say to coke addicts back before addiction awareness like "ugh just get over your coke, you have no [I]willpower[/I] you are addicted because you're abnormal" which we all know is bullshit talk. I could go on about how people thought homosexuality was an illness and addiction, how masturbating daily is seen as healthy but not an addiction because its a majority behavior, how alcohol is legal because the majority users are also those in power whilst weed had people in power against its users and use, but it all comes to the same conclusion that we as humans define the good and the bad of behavior and we don't always get it right.
This is all a very nice discussion and good as food for thought but its not what Banandana is concerned about. Its the fact that many people who smoke everyday, (whether it be the people who genuinely handle it and can stop whenever they want, but enjoy smoking so why not vs the people who smoke everyday but really are hindered by it and stick to it because they believe weed isn't that bad for you), are more likely going to go online or spread the idea to friends and others that its a ok for [I]anyone[/I] to smoke everyday, when that its absolutely not the case. Smoking everyday can really change some people, so giving off the message "hey mannn if I can smoke erryday so can you, join me" is really fucked up. I think that's why people have a hard time accepting that weed is not terrible for you, that sure there are some people that can smoke more than others but when those others encourage those who shouldn't to smoke more then we have a problem. How do we look at weed then, well that leads to the next point.
Weed is so fucking hard to deal with these days because as a society we are still pretty new to the field of personalization. We have products now that are catering to us as an individual, features and gadgets that will change according to what we find more important, whether it be an app on your phone or the fact that competition of products give you a wide variety of choices so you can buy the car that suits your needs or the washing machine for your home, etc. But when it comes to how we broadcast mass knowledge like what is the healthy diet, what is the best way to achieve happiness, or what is the best way to parent, the message is always this one singular over generalization statement that then causes everyone to go up in arms "but what about my people, what about people with my state of mind/opinion/body/race/ethicity etc". Sensationalist media is just the manifestation of how archaic mankind used to spread information. Through old stories we taught others how to act, new skills, life lessons, and the such however this was an all or nothing method. If you didn't follow the main religion you risked your life in society. So that all or nothing way of looking at the world, aka the black and white thinking that we strive so much to move on from is taking its time to be left in the past, we are still learning about how to better convey knowledge so that everyone can take advantage of that new knowledge.
Where does weed come in? Well we have a plant that can be both very good and very bad. On one side smoking everyday may for some act as an aid, a medication almost where it allows for higher functioning for some, but for others it is debilitating, limiting that individual's behaviors as they spiral into the pit of dependence and lack of natural motivation. But if those who it works for advertise to [B]all[/B] as being 'the perfect drug', the drug that you can do everyday with no problems, then we fall into that very archaic pit of generalization that we strive so hard to move away from. I'd also like to note that we are all very vulnerable human beings, that by accepting our addictions is accepting something faulty with our self (the brain isn't perfect and addiction is one of many brain 'glitches'). So with that it is very hard for some to admit we have a problem, so we justify it with our stressors, our current state of affairs, but it just sucks to because we are human, we strive to be more. It is only natural, but to examine it and try to make it better is what really makes us human.
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I'd also like to say thank you Banandana for taking the time to lay out your explanation instead of just rating and moving on. I guess it just frustrates me when people type out 1 line responses to complicated issues like this and expect people to just follow their very simplistic statement about a very complex issue. By putting out a fleshed out response we skip the pages and pages of people jumping on each other about oversimplification and overall bullshit snarky-ness people like to indulge in which derails the discussion and turns into the stereotypical internet argument.
weed is bad and u all suck
[QUOTE=Banandana;47717553]weed is bad and u all suck[/QUOTE]
Do Speed like uncle Fox instead, kiddies. I'll even show u how 2 make a fat line n suk dat bitch down
[quote]I'd also like to say thank you Banandana for taking the time to lay out your explanation instead of just rating and moving on. I guess it just frustrates me when people type out 1 line responses to complicated issues like this and expect people to just follow their very simplistic statement about a very complex issue. By putting out a fleshed out response we skip the pages and pages of people jumping on each other about oversimplification and overall bullshit snarky-ness people like to indulge in which derails the discussion and turns into the stereotypical internet argument.[/QUOTE]
While on one hand, you have this very serious and big movement to legalize marijuana as a aid, for example pain and such, I do also find it funny how lightly people seem to take on addictions and such. While it may not be on the level of Heroin and other opiate users, you can get addicted to it. It does produce a high, it does make you feel good, especially if you're using while you're in a mindset that isn't good, and especially when having such thoughts re-affirmed by others.
Though, that is the problem with anything, as you mentioned, you can get addicted to all things, but the fact that marijuana is treated as something that isn't addictive, or won't cause any damage, is just silly. Drawing smoke into your lungs, or having something that alters your mind, even if only on the level of marijuana, for prolonged periods of time, is never good.
However, I have a feeling, the side-effects of prolonged marijuana usage will start to become apparent, now that basically the whole US has legalized it. While it may have a significant and positive attribute towards certain sicknesses, I can't help but think that drawing smoke into your lungs, no matter what kind, is not good for you. Edibles, sure, but then you still have the fact that you are continuously taking something that alters your brain. Prolonged exposure and usage of it, will end up causing some kind of negatives, as does anything that alters ones mind, from sugars to coffee, to opiates and other such things.
Though, I believe that anyone who is above the age of 18, have the right to do as they so wish with their own bodies; Though, I do find it quite sad how vehemently marijuana users in particular, like to defend their smoking habits by saying that it, in no way, causes any damage or such, at all, which is not true.
On a serious note I really do like your post, it highlights a lot of things I hadn't thought of and even reenforced things I had written about.
It's not often I see someone write some detailed post in an actual discussion and I think a lot of the last few pages has been rather discussion oriented.
On the topic of weed, it's something I find not only here but among other people I know in person too. While marijuana is relatively minor it seems as if it's abused far more than it should from my perspective.
Sorry if this post doesn't say much, I'm typing it on my phone and honestly I'm just happy you spent the time to reply as it seems a lot of people tend to do just what you said, rate and move on. Like Mr. Fox.
Also, Dear Mr. Fox,
Fuck you don't rate me late. Ilu let's make love later
- Banandana
Edit: Thank you Mr. Fox. Ilu2
what kinda codeine dossage do you guys recommend on average? I drank about 96mg of it after cwe, and I'm not even sure if it ever hit me. Later on I did some lines of synthecaine and I had like this pretty euphoric glow, mixed with a runners high kinda thing which was nice, but this was hours after I drank it. I'm not sure if they worked together, if it was just the caine or what
[QUOTE=Banandana;47717553]weed is bad and u all suck[/QUOTE]
Yes.
I always felt the adage "Smoke weed every day" was satirical, I guess some people really take that as advice?
[QUOTE=CoilingTesla;47717775]Yes.
I always felt the adage "Smoke weed every day" was satirical, I guess some people really take that as advice?[/QUOTE]
You'd be surprised just how some people think.
On a unrelated note; Time to try some of this RC compound I got today. Either this will be 4F-PVP or A-PHP, taken in combination with Speed and Alcohol. No idea how I will react to this, so fingers crossed I won't die.
I genuinely have no idea what I want to go to college for. Debating between Information Tech/Systems, Chemistry and Computer Science..
[editline]13th May 2015[/editline]
I have a Chase debit account, what would be the easiest method for me to acquire BTC?
I want to put something new on the table. I think people here can agree that the "nuclear family", the 2.5 kids stay at home mom and breadwinning father, is slowly going away, or at the very least is changing. People who come from dysfunctional families tend to have harder times socially, since there was a lack of societal teachings from the parents, or unfortunate encounters at a young age which prime negative social behaviors that went unchecked. Even people with social lives can feel lonely through their own perceptions of feeling disconnected, or even if they're with people they don't feel that special connection. Social activities are VERY VERY important to people's coping mechanisms, as laughing with people produces better coping for stress then laughing alone, talking to people to vent allows you to overcome the pain sooner, and by simply thinking that people will be there for you if something goes awry can give you the confidence to overcome a stressor. Clearly human interaction is important, but it is also very hard to maintain. Most of your friends will be met in school or university, and from then on its a struggle to keep them because after that there is fewer times for people to create those meaningful friendships (not simple office co workers but real bff type friendship where you care for one another). What I'm saying is, for social beings we have very shitty ways of befriending people after young adulthood because of how our lives are set up, we are setup for very exclusive long term relationships instead of fluid ever-changing ones that benefit growth and change.
Anyway my point is social interactions are hard work, so maybe people who use drugs everyday or often are substituting the coping mechanisms that are aided by social interaction with drug use. I know at first sight this looks grim but consider how easy taking drugs are compared to coordinating social interactions. Schedule divides humans considerably, as there may be people very like minded as me that I would totally love to chill with but have a totally different job timing or days off than me and thus I would never really be able to sustain a friendship with them. Same goes for location and economic status as they may not be near me nor be comfortable with my way of living. Then you have to tolerate them, everyone has negative traits in one form or another which could be universally agreed like if someone has poor hygiene or it could be individually biased like "I'll never get along with a liberal" or "I cant stand people who have a weird laugh" something along the lines of that. This plus having to meet someone who also likes the shows you like and dislikes the shows you dislike, and you've got yourself a very complicated equation as to what makes a good friend who you enjoy being around and can be around them.
Drugs on the other hand you go in, get your product (granted it can be hard for some) get out, and do it as you please. You skip all of those other parameters and you get satisfaction from the drug, but as time goes on doing the same drug over and over tends to lose its effect. (insert statement about how friendships can go through the same thing, thus add another step in that equation to include 'getting new friends/growing with them over time'). The drug gives you the laughter but not the coping. Drugs give you that happiness without the confidence (you don't look at drugs and think, 'yeah i can over come that task because I have drugs waiting for me at home to support me'). Drugs give you the convenience of use whenever and where-ever you need but lack the overall strengthening that relationships give you. Do you feel like shit and don't want to hang with friends cause you either don't want to drag them down or you don't want to deal with their annoyances but still want to have a good time, drug use is there for that. Drugs can help for those moments where you want to do something but don't want to invest all of that effort for the payoff. It's like going for fast food instead of a home cooked meal, sure fast food isn't good for you but once in a while isn't terrible. However when you completely substitute it you give up all of the good stuff that goes along with making a meal/being with friends, using fresh ingredients/coping with friends, taking the time to enjoy making a meal/taking the time to be with friends and enjoy it, changing up the recipe to fit your needs/growing with friends and changing for the better, being happy with the finished meal/looking back and cherishing those unique moments with friends. I hope this doesn't sound like I'm shitting on drug users claiming if you use drugs you are some friendless loser who needs to get a life, but rather I hope I'm encouraging people to be weary of when they are using drugs and making sure they are doing it as an enhancement instead of a substitution. It's a very important life skill to be able to use something to your advantage rather than letting it consume you like enjoying tv shows to enrich your encounters with others rather than using those tv shows to substitute real friends (the obsessed fanboys who lose touch with reality) or eating where you can use cooking to have fun with others rather than just sit there and consume or video games where you can have tons of fun with others or fall into a pit of compulsive playing and ignoring others. Everything around us is based off balanced equations, why would humans be any different, that's why balance is key.
[QUOTE=Exigent;47717848]I genuinely have no idea what I want to go to college for. Debating between Information Tech/Systems, Chemistry and Computer Science..
[editline]13th May 2015[/editline]
I have a Chase debit account, what would be the easiest method for me to acquire BTC?[/QUOTE]
For your first question; As far as I have heard, Chemistry grads are quite common nowadays, and a pretty saturated market. Comp Sci is the best one, or so I have heard, No idea about Info Tech/Sys.
As for your second, try localbitcoins.com
[QUOTE=The fox;47717874]For your first question; As far as I have heard, Chemistry grads are quite common nowadays, and a pretty saturated market. Comp Sci is the best one, or so I have heard, No idea about Info Tech/Sys.
As for your second, try localbitcoins.com[/QUOTE]
I have a localbitcoins.com account, I just don't know which method I should be using :pwn:
[QUOTE=Exigent;47717883]I have a localbitcoins.com account, I just don't know which method I should be using :pwn:[/QUOTE]
Oh, well, just pick a seller, and see about Bank transfer/Paypal and/or uCash or similiar value checks, if they accept it. I have a feeling Bank transfer will be the easiest, alternatively Paypal, albeit it might take a bank day or two before it reaches the sellers account.
EDIT:
You should be able to see all payment methods accepted for your region under "Payment Method" on the main page. Simply pick the one that should correspond to what you can do with a debit card, which I think is Bank transfer/Other Online Payment/Value checks etc.
I just like this wax because it's actually doing wonders for my anxiety without clouding my mind or making me tired/sleepy
And then the next day, I feel happy without smoking anything
[QUOTE=Cpn Crunch21;47717871]I hope this doesn't sound like I'm shitting on drug users claiming if you use drugs you are some friendless loser who needs to get a life, but rather I hope I'm encouraging people to be weary of when they are using drugs and making sure they are doing it as an enhancement instead of a substitution. It's a very important life skill to be able to use something to your advantage rather than letting it consume you like enjoying tv shows to enrich your encounters with others rather than using those tv shows to substitute real friends (the obsessed fanboys who lose touch with reality) or eating where you can use cooking to have fun with others rather than just sit there and consume or video games where you can have tons of fun with others or fall into a pit of compulsive playing and ignoring others. Everything around us is based off balanced equations, why would humans be any different, that's why balance is key.[/QUOTE]
This post truly should be noted by everyone wishing to use any kind of drug, especially of the heavier types.
I started using Benzos for my sleeping problems, due to losing my ex, after that it escalated and now I sit and can easily pump in a gram of Speed every night, just to have something to keep my mind of her, and it isn't something I would recommend doing yourself.
The same has gone with alcohol before that, and while it may help temporarily, it doesn't give you anything but misery in the long run. So, think, before you use, research what you're using/about to use, what effects does it have? How does it feel? What should you and should you not mix with it? etc, and think about whether you are prone to abusing substances, does it run in your family? Does your friends/family/other people around you abuse, rather than use? This applies specially if you are using it while feeling down or suchlike, it may provide help, and a lot of it, but in the end, it will take more than it gives.
It is a lot to take into consideration, but it is absolutely important. It is very easy to slip into a addiction, one you can't so easily break, and that consumes more of your time, money, body and soul than you realize.
EDIT:
Exigent is still looking for suggestions for Bitcoin buying, as well. Figured I might as well see if anyone can perhaps help him out?
Holy fucking shit I got invited to the job fest for this job I've been after since I've graduated from uni. Fuck yes I want this job so bad for the benefits (government health insurance which is super good here, dental, n all that jazz), finally get some real income going, get this career going. Big thanks to my dad for having a legacy there and pulling the strings to help me out, better believe I'm going to try my best for him and the organization. Holy fucking shit yesssss.
[QUOTE=Exigent;47717848]I genuinely have no idea what I want to go to college for. Debating between Information Tech/Systems, Chemistry and Computer Science..
[editline]13th May 2015[/editline]
I have a Chase debit account, what would be the easiest method for me to acquire BTC?[/QUOTE]
localbitcoin moneygrams
literally you get btc in an hour if the person is reliable
[QUOTE=Cpn Crunch21;47718193]Holy fucking shit I got invited to the job fest for this job I've been after since I've graduated from uni. Fuck yes I want this job so bad for the benefits (government health insurance which is super good here, dental, n all that jazz), finally get some real income going, get this career going. Big thanks to my dad for having a legacy there and pulling the strings to help me out, better believe I'm going to try my best for him and the organization. Holy fucking shit yesssss.[/QUOTE]
Wow dude, sounds too corporate and corporate = oppression of drugs, I say you move out into the woods and live off the land, inhaling copious amounts of DMT and mushrooms, occasionally sneaking into internet cafes to post about your time in the wild here for us to enjoy.
[editline]14th May 2015[/editline]
Also I'm pretty sure I seen Satan and his Hound tonight.
I went out on my bike to meet a friend and smoke a few bowls, I go out and I cycle like a mile into another part of town. I pass this shopping area and there is a guy with reflective shoes (like Hi-vis tape) and he was walking back and forth down the path, didn't think much of him till later.
So I meet my friend and we smoke two huge bowls of really nice weed. I get super high, not smoked in almost a week now, too. As I'm walking through one of the darker streets with my bike, I'm too high to cycle, I begin to hear static in my right ear. I turn around almost like instinct and see this weird ass silhouette staring at me, I take out my phone and zoom in and snap some pics of the beast and slowly back away, it slowly turns and walks back down the darkened street. Note in the pictures that the dog has no collar on, there was no one around to walk the dog and it's a huge fucking pit bull, who would want that as a pet.
I fucking hop on my bike, still high as fuck and pace as fast as I can down the streets. I get tired as I pass the shopping area, and I see that same fucking guy, in a dark alleyway with his fucking hi-vis shoes reflected and he is staring at me as I pass by, the only reason I turn around is because of the fucking static again, like the Hound it made me turn to my left this time so I could see him down the alleyway.
I must have been at my friends house for at least 45 minutes, the guy stood there for an hour, jesus fucking christ.
Pictures of the Hell Hound:
[url]http://imgur.com/1PZPBWh,JmxTwmu#0[/url]
[QUOTE=Tacooo;47719362]Wow dude, sounds too corporate and corporate = oppression of drugs, I say you move out into the woods and live off the land, inhaling copious amounts of DMT and mushrooms, occasionally sneaking into internet cafes to post about your time in the wild here for us to enjoy.
[editline]14th May 2015[/editline]
Also I'm pretty sure I seen Satan and his Hound tonight.
I went out on my bike to meet a friend and smoke a few bowls, I go out and I cycle like a mile into another part of town. I pass this shopping area and there is a guy with reflective shoes (like Hi-vis tape) and he was walking back and forth down the path, didn't think much of him till later.
So I meet my friend and we smoke two huge bowls of really nice weed. I get super high, not smoked in almost a week now, too. As I'm walking through one of the darker streets with my bike, I'm too high to cycle, I begin to hear static in my right ear. I turn around almost like instinct and see this weird ass silhouette staring at me, I take out my phone and zoom in and snap some pics of the beast and slowly back away, it slowly turns and walks back down the darkened street. Note in the pictures that the dog has no collar on, there was no one around to walk the dog and it's a huge fucking pit bull, who would want that as a pet.
I fucking hop on my bike, still high as fuck and pace as fast as I can down the streets. I get tired as I pass the shopping area, and I see that same fucking guy, in a dark alleyway with his fucking hi-vis shoes reflected and he is staring at me as I pass by, the only reason I turn around is because of the fucking static again, like the Hound it made me turn to my left this time so I could see him down the alleyway.
I must have been at my friends house for at least 45 minutes, the guy stood there for an hour, jesus fucking christ.
Pictures of the Hell Hound:
[url]http://imgur.com/1PZPBWh,JmxTwmu#0[/url][/QUOTE]
fuck that noise holy shit
Fell asleep, woke up with two joints in my pocket and my room stinks of weed. I blame my grinder. Any ideas?
How cool would it be if you could use something like this for bongs and other paraphernalia?
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gzo6Ypvh1Hg[/media]
They even sell fake clocks that can hold a gun inside, so change the gun with weed.
Cody helped me out by suggesting Coinbase. Exactly what I was looking for, pay straight from my bank account.
[QUOTE=geogzm;47719923]Fell asleep, woke up with two joints in my pocket and my room stinks of weed. I blame my grinder. Any ideas?[/QUOTE] You have been blessed by the weed fairy.
[b]High warning, shits on weed hard, read sober. [/b]
Yes drugs have their ups and downs, I'm glad a lot of DD is recognizing the need to slow down on weed. Drugs are powerful things that allow you to escape and create problems in a variety of methods. Weed killed off an anger phase I had after realizing how out of it I was socially. Then for a year and half it kept me pretty entertained, but possibly prevented me from growing socially and I missed out on some opportunities, not wanting to stand out and not hold myself up well. It is far from the perfect drug because it can cut down drive, making it a lot more dangerous in terms of long term happiness.
It became a crutch to eliminate boredom, but doesn't seem to do that now except in high doses. The use I have for it is to calm down and wrap up someday, not very effective in enhancing entertainment. It has become something to soften the pain of a shitty day or failure of a night so that I can tune out and sleep.
I am no longer interested in day smoking or vaping as it seems like a great idea before I start, but unless I'm planning on keeping it going until the end of my night, I don't enjoy it. It's nice for a little while, but seems to disable from being social or doing anything with my night, I just become self conscious as it fades because of the things I didn't do or could have done.
Essentially it still has a limited proper use with me as long as I'm moving forward. With full legalization, it will be a massive idiot cull. Some destroying their lungs with smoking all the time, some burning up their drive. I'm okay with this, it makes me more competitive. While legalization would cut down alcohol consumption a little potentially, the shot to people's drive might out weigh the physical benefits of using it instead of alcohol or harder drugs. The people going to prison part is the main thing that needs to stop for sure as that's more dangerous than the shot to people's drive. Being able to buy it in a store wouldn't magically make this a perfect drug for me.
Please consume cannabis responsibly, you can enjoy it, but if you are not careful it will cut into your life.
So I was reading on the DarkNetMarkets reddit and reading about Controlled Deliveries and stuff really got me worried/paranoid. Are these things likely to happen when ordering in small amounts?
3-MeO-PCP, the ride never ends.
So my bro just took over the wine shop literally opposite my office. It's like an episode of mad men with all the free "samples" he's sharing with me at lunch haha.
Long goddamn day at work. Went for a walk and smoked before it started to rain.
There really is nothing like the feeling of a well deserved J.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjpYywAaHSw[/media]
Ah, I'm so fucked financially, need to find some way to get through 3 weeks more of this college year then I will have no fucking money for summer anyway. Going to sell my PS4 and stop spending so much of my money on drugs, I think this will help me, living off ramen for a few months while shitting myself in fear of crippling debt.
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