Should be carefull with opiates on an empty stomache, though. Could make you nauseas and make you throw up.
As for bad trips, I have had far darker trips on Mushrooms than Acid. Even when I did a full on 4g of some of the most potent stuff you can possibly get, of Mushrooms, all it did was send me in a loop that I thought lasted for several thousand years. Though, I have been trying to force bad trips for a while now, but I haven't been able to come even close, so I am not sure whether I have a better disposition towards tripping on Psychedelics.
Should you feel worried, keep some Benzo at hand, this will more or less immediately stop the trip and make you sleepy enough to the point where you will sleep it off. Taking Acid <7 days after you drop, though, will mean you still have a resistance towards it, cross tolerance towards other Psychedelics also exist, so keep that in mind.
For example, Acid makes me more go "Wow.. did.. what I just type make sense or not.. lolwut.. what was I just thinking? lol this is pretty XD" while Mushrooms is more deeper insights and such, at least to me. Not to say, LSD can't be used for that purpose, but I experience far more bright colors, happy mood and just a generally roasted brain on it. Deepest insights, though, I have gained from Ketamine.
I think I've gotten a caffiene tolerance in the last few weeks, but I have no opiate tolerance.
I was more worried about the APAP being mixed with a diuretic, actually. I guess I should be fine if I get one.
[editline]22nd May 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=The fox;47783076]Should be carefull with opiates on an empty stomache, though. Could make you nauseas and make you throw up.[/QUOTE]
I've eaten a lot today, I'm trying to keep as much weight on as I can, I've been losing about a pound a day.
I'm gonna try salvia next week. Any tips?
[QUOTE=CoilingTesla;47783078]
I'm gonna try salvia next week. Any tips?[/QUOTE]
I'd suggest Erowid, to get the basics down, and what you can expect from it.
[url]https://www.erowid.org/plants/salvia/salvia.shtml[/url]
[QUOTE=CoilingTesla;47783078]I think I've gotten a caffiene tolerance in the last few weeks, but I have no opiate tolerance.
I was more worried about the APAP being mixed with a diuretic, actually. I guess I should be fine if I get one.
[editline]22nd May 2015[/editline]
I've eaten a lot today, I'm trying to keep as much weight on as I can, I've been losing about a pound a day.
I'm gonna try salvia next week. Any tips?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, pack a spare pair of underwear
(you wont actually shit yourself, dont worry)
[QUOTE=Consciousness;47783396]Yeah, pack a spare pair of underwear
(you wont actually shit yourself, dont worry)[/QUOTE]
It's just dried leaves, no extract added, so I don't expect the "full experience".
[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;47782112]Can acid be a terrifying experience? I hear very mixed things around here.[/QUOTE]
LSD can be terrifying because you feel like you're slowly losing control of your thoughts
Shrooms can be terrifying because you lost control 20,000,000 years ago and your spirit has evolved into a higher plane of existence
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;47782969]Unless you qualify with the following:
- Low opiate tolerance
- Low caffiene tolerance
- Both
You should be fine. Vicodin in my honest opinion is the weakest of the codienes, and normally speaking, caffeine isn't that harsh of a trigger with codiene unless you have an antibiotic or anti-psychotic in your system with it.[/QUOTE]
vicodin's hydrocodone, codeine is the only codeine there is lol, it's it's own chemical, there's oxyCODONE which is stronger yes.
[editline]22nd May 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=CoilingTesla;47783078]I think I've gotten a caffiene tolerance in the last few weeks, but I have no opiate tolerance.
I was more worried about the APAP being mixed with a diuretic, actually. I guess I should be fine if I get one.
[editline]22nd May 2015[/editline]
I've eaten a lot today, I'm trying to keep as much weight on as I can, I've been losing about a pound a day.
I'm gonna try salvia next week. Any tips?[/QUOTE]
You can't possibly prepare for salvia, with that being said it's not that big a deal, just go with the flow.
I'll never watch my sister's dog while tripping on shrooms again. I mind-melded with the dog and couldn't bare to put her back in the cage for the night when I left. I just had to trust the dog to not do anything stupid.
Apparently it worked, she didn't eat any of the tv remotes or shit anywhere. I guess Sue understood what I was telling her while I was tripping balls thinking I could communicate with a dog.
well guys meth's been slowly creeping into my thoughts again; I haven't been considering using it or anything but i've just noticed over the last few days i've been thinking about it a lot more in general than usual to the point where it's overtaking my desire to keep up with hobbies and what makes me happy(usually i'm more focused on other things and don't give it a second thought, recently my minds been more focused on it in general and i've been losing productivity and drive towards what's good in life)
Time to utilize my support network, I suppose, intervene on it's influence before I start wanting to use again, because if that happens I probably won't care to intervene
wish me luck, hopefully I can break it before it breaks me;
not too long ago I was walking down my street and spotted a bag laying on the floor with meth in it, was considering picking it up to dispose of it but figured i'd just leave it alone all together because it would be safer on my self to not have it in my hands. In any regard, I think these forward pushes are an overall positive thing, just sucks that it still interferes like this
[QUOTE=Consciousness;47783954]well guys meth's been slowly creeping into my thoughts again; I haven't been considering using it or anything but i've just noticed over the last few days i've been thinking about it a lot more in general than usual to the point where it's overtaking my desire to keep up with hobbies and what makes me happy(usually i'm more focused on other things and don't give it a second thought, recently my minds been more focused on it in general and i've been losing productivity and drive towards what's good in life)
Time to utilize my support network, I suppose, intervene on it's influence before I start wanting to use again, because if that happens I probably won't care to intervene[/quote]
Well, it's good you're able to keep yourself off it, that's always a start. Personally, even though I have used over 10 grams of Ampethamine in the past 2 - 3 weeks, I only feel a disdain towards using it, kinda just bored with it.
Though, throwing it away just seems like more or less an waste, however, I feel I will have to, rather not be caught with it, if cops come a knockin'.
Never tried ice, myself, though, so I suppose I can't really say just how good the rush is.
[quote]
wish me luck, hopefully I can break it before it breaks me;
not too long ago I was walking down my street and spotted a bag laying on the floor with meth in it, was considering picking it up to dispose of it but figured i'd just leave it alone all together because it would be safer on my self to not have it in my hands. In any regard, I think these forward pushes are an overall positive thing, just sucks that it still interferes like this[/QUOTE]
You can break it, thats for sure. Out of everything I have used, the only thing I could not tell myself to stay off from, it's alcohol. Tobacco, Speed, Psychedelics, uppers, downers, opiates.. etc You've already gotten this far, what do you really get out of smoking it? Sit up for a while? Feel good? Social?
[QUOTE=The fox;47783991]Well, it's good you're able to keep yourself off it, that's always a start. Personally, even though I have used over 10 grams of Ampethamine in the past 2 - 3 weeks, I only feel a disdain towards using it, kinda just bored with it.
Though, throwing it away just seems like more or less an waste, however, I feel I will have to, rather not be caught with it, if cops come a knockin'.
Never tried ice, myself, though, so I suppose I can't really say just how good the rush is.
You can break it, thats for sure. Out of everything I have used, the only thing I could not tell myself to stay off from, it's alcohol. Tobacco, Speed, Psychedelics, uppers, downers, opiates.. etc You've already gotten this far, what do you really get out of smoking it? Sit up for a while? Feel good? Social?[/QUOTE]
hefty wank sessions, long in depth conversations that everyone forgot about the next day
that's about it really
I don't want to say amphetamines are nothing by comparison but, I tried dexamphetamine and though occasionally I think "yeah that'd be cool" I just don't feel as drawn towards it as I do with crystal meth. It's not necessarily the rush or the euphoria (which I never got very much of in the first place, could be ADHD related, everyone else would get super worked up and i'd be the quiet/calm one regardless of how much I had until i'd been up for a few days then things would go haywire) so much as the act of smoking it that was extremely addictive to me. Last time I relapsed which was quite some time ago I specifically refrained from smoking it so as to break fueling that cycle despite relapsing
For some reason, my dealer keeps getting me this pot which smells almost medical grade, some crystals, and has a purple tint. Anyone got a clue what I'm getting?
[QUOTE=Consciousness;47784031]hefty wank sessions, long in depth conversations that everyone forgot about the next day
that's about it really[/quote]
Alright, then there isn't much of an point doing it, is there? Hefty wank sessions, sure.. I love those too, but just cutting out whatever you're fapping to, then waiting, and going at it again, provides about the same shit. As for forgetting lengthy convos, that happens to me, regardless of what/when/how I use :p Hardly sounds like an reason to continue.
[quote]I don't want to say amphetamines are nothing by comparison but, I tried dexamphetamine and though occasionally I think "yeah that'd be cool" I just don't feel as drawn towards it as I do with crystal meth. It's not necessarily the rush or the euphoria (which I never got very much of in the first place, could be ADHD related, everyone else would get super worked up and i'd be the quiet/calm one regardless of how much I had until i'd been up for a few days then things would go haywire) so much as the act of smoking it that was extremely addictive to me. Last time I relapsed which was quite some time ago I specifically refrained from smoking it so as to break fueling that cycle despite relapsing[/QUOTE]
Well, if it's the smoking part thats the problem, maybe try and join a Smoking Quitting group? Alternatively, try having some chewing gums or suchlike available. Use the tips provided for regular smokers, and try and apply it, to you.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;47784080]For some reason, my dealer keeps getting me this pot which smells almost medical grade, some crystals, and has a purple tint. Anyone got a clue what I'm getting?[/QUOTE]
I've heard, and seen, a few strands have colored crystals on the buds. The times i've seen and heard of those, they've been branded as some of the most potent and best grade there is; Though, do you feel as if it is bad quality? Do you get a better, lower or regular high on it? Do you feel any bad comedown? etc.
I'm going to load up on a big blunt tonight and chill out and watch Eurovision with some mates. Should be fun.
[QUOTE=The fox;47784084]Alright, then there isn't much of an point doing it, is there? Hefty wank sessions, sure.. I love those too, but just cutting out whatever you're fapping to, then waiting, and going at it again, provides about the same shit. As for forgetting lengthy convos, that happens to me, regardless of what/when/how I use :p Hardly sounds like an reason to continue.
Well, if it's the smoking part thats the problem, maybe try and join a Smoking Quitting group? Alternatively, try having some chewing gums or suchlike available. Use the tips provided for regular smokers, and try and apply it, to you.[/QUOTE]
yeah like i'm still addicted to cigarettes, in general the act of smoking something is just a massive habitual thing for me, so go figure that i'd get hooked into smoking something that rapidly relieved me of symptoms in the short run, where as any other ROA and I was like meh this is no better than my meds (so to speak). That 'instantaneous' symptom relief is problematic for me, it's the same reason I ended up abusing ritalin even after being on it with no dosing issues for a couple months (Was due for a redose in an hour but I was having one of those shit moments in between doses and needed to be productive, decided to try snorting it as I figured what could go wrong... well, turns out a lot can go wrong) the last time I relapsed with meth was during a period in which I was off meds but had an assignment due, figured I could use it for that, intentionally avoided smoking it, got my assignment done but neglected to turn it in anyway..
[QUOTE=CoilingTesla;47783418]It's just dried leaves, no extract added, so I don't expect the "full experience".[/QUOTE]
It has reverse tolerance so If you keep smoking the leaves it will lead you on to a full experience
[editline]23rd May 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;47784080]For some reason, my dealer keeps getting me this pot which smells almost medical grade, some crystals, and has a purple tint. Anyone got a clue what I'm getting?[/QUOTE]
Marijuana
[QUOTE=Consciousness;47784104]yeah like i'm still addicted to cigarettes, in general the act of smoking something is just a massive habitual thing for me, so go figure that i'd get hooked into smoking something that rapidly relieved me of symptoms in the short run, where as any other ROA and I was like meh this is no better than my meds (so to speak). That 'instantaneous' symptom relief is problematic for me, it's the same reason I ended up abusing ritalin even after being on it with no dosing issues for a couple months (Was due for a redose in an hour but I was having one of those shit moments in between doses and needed to be productive, decided to try snorting it as I figured what could go wrong... well, turns out a lot can go wrong) the last time I relapsed with meth was during a period in which I was off meds but had an assignment due, figured I could use it for that, intentionally avoided smoking it, got my assignment done but neglected to turn it in anyway..[/QUOTE]
Well, as you got meds, prescribed I hope, I would suggest going with these, and sticking to the regulated dosages, and talking to your point(s) of contact with the medical community if you feel they don't work or such.
MethAmpethamine is a pretty dirty drug, or so i've heard, and as it provides you with no real benefits, why would you continue doing it? If you feel the need to smoke, do it with cigarettes instead, and use the programs that are out there, to help you stop.
Alternatively, tell your contact(s) in the ward about your smoking problem with cigarettes, see what they have to suggest.
[QUOTE=The fox;47784163]Well, as you got meds, prescribed I hope, I would suggest going with these, and sticking to the regulated dosages, and talking to your point(s) of contact with the medical community if you feel they don't work or such.
MethAmpethamine is a pretty dirty drug, or so i've heard, and as it provides you with no real benefits, why would you continue doing it? If you feel the need to smoke, do it with cigarettes instead, and use the programs that are out there, to help you stop.
Alternatively, tell your contact(s) in the ward about your smoking problem with cigarettes, see what they have to suggest.[/QUOTE]
yeah, prescribed, I got diagnosed and prescribed by a psychiatrist that specializes in ADHD and Drug Abuse treatment sometime last year after spending a huge deal of time sober and away from all drugs, so I feel i'm in good hands, I enjoy the conversations we have and I find it ultimately beneficial, I told him about my history with drugs and all that as well as what happened with ritalin abuse and we ended up working out what to do about it all. I was seeing a psychologist about symptoms far before I got caught up with meth, she was gonna have me referred to a neuropsych for adhd assessment while I was still in high school but I ended up bailing on that. If I hadn't, I probably wouldn't have ended up getting into meth ironically.
[QUOTE=Consciousness;47784211]yeah, prescribed, I got diagnosed and prescribed by an ADHD and Drug Abuse specialist sometime last year after spending a huge deal of time sober and away from all drugs, so I feel i'm in good hands, I told him about my history with drugs and all that as well as what happened with ritalin abuse; but I was seeing a psychologist about symptoms far before I got caught up with meth, she was gonna have me referred to a neuropsych for adhd assessment while I was still in high school but I ended up bailing on that. If I hadn't, I probably wouldn't have ended up getting into meth ironically[/QUOTE]
Thing is, though Methampethamine and Ampethamine, in the street form, won't help against ADHD/ADD or conditions similiar to that. While it is true that many medications involved in the treatment of such conditions do contain Ampethamine-like substances, these do not at all compare to the street quality, nor street mixture, and shouldn't be used as a substitute.
I would strongly suggest going through with whatever your local Department of Health and/or clinics can offer you, and follow their advice and/or recommendations for medication, as well as seeking a way to drop the cigarettes.
[QUOTE=The fox;47784232]Thing is, though Methampethamine and Ampethamine, in the street form, won't help against ADHD/ADD or conditions similiar to that. While it is true that many medications involved in the treatment of such conditions do contain Ampethamine-like substances, these do not at all compare to the street quality, nor street mixture, and shouldn't be used as a substitute.
I would strongly suggest going through with whatever your local Department of Health and/or clinics can offer you, and follow their advice and/or recommendations for medication, as well as seeking a way to drop the cigarettes.[/QUOTE]
it definitely doesn't compare to how the medication helps, but here street amps that aren't meth are typically prescription dexamphetamine tablets that people decide to sell off for a profit.
Even so, neither meth nor dexies really treat my condition the same way that concerta does, which i'm happy to stay on as I'm not misusing or abusing it.
I have a strong understanding of these matters from a scientific/pharamcological perspective, i'd rather know as much as I can about anything I put into my body regardless of if it's prescribed or otherwise; just that because I did get rather caught up with meth in the past, it occasionally creeps into my thoughts and that's usually the beginning stages of a relapse in use,
but i should be okay, I've got some friends coming around so I can get my mind off it in general.
I'll see what I can do about the cigarette addiction, might look into nicotine replacement therapy
For now, I hope everyone else has a good day/night and i'll see yas around
[QUOTE=Consciousness;47784258]it definitely doesn't compare to how the medication helps, but here street amps that aren't meth are typically prescription dexamphetamine tablets that people decide to sell off for a profit.
Even so, neither meth nor dexies really treat my condition the same way that concerta does, which i'm happy to stay on as I'm not misusing or abusing it.
I have a strong understanding of these matters from a scientific/pharamcological perspective, i'd rather know as much as I can about anything I put into my body regardless of if it's prescribed or otherwise; just that because I did get rather caught up with meth in the past, it occasionally creeps into my thoughts and that's usually the beginning stages of a relapse in use,
but i should be okay, I've got some friends coming around so I can get my mind off it in general.[/quote]
That sounds absolutely perfect, I use stims mainly to stay up all night, alternatively to combat me being drunk as shite; I can't imagine how it'd be to get hooked on the shit, though. It has quite lost its sense of appeal, and from what I have read, it will never quite come back, but rather just sit there in the background, keeping me awake and alert, when I do take it. Fapping and so forth, it's just worthless on it.
[quote]I'll see what I can do about the cigarette addiction, might look into nicotine replacement therapy
For now, I hope everyone else has a good day/night[/QUOTE]
That sounds good, I know how hard cigarettes can be to drop, unfortunately. Though, I am sure you'll manage to drop it, you just have to believe in yourself and your power to overcome it.
As for the goodnight and/or day/morning, so will I wish everyone. My mistress, the bed, is beckoning me. Sleep well, for those of you who can.
EDIT:
Also just noticed, belated 1,337 post, I guess. Or something. Goodnight, and for real this time.
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[QUOTE=The fox;47784084]
I've heard, and seen, a few strands have colored crystals on the buds. The times i've seen and heard of those, they've been branded as some of the most potent and best grade there is; Though, do you feel as if it is bad quality? Do you get a better, lower or regular high on it? Do you feel any bad comedown? etc.[/QUOTE]
The effects I have gotten from it are a really laid back high where my eyes get a little fuzzy and unfocused. Like it hits within two minutes of inhaling, and the comedown is within three to five hours. The smell actually gets out of the bag whenever I have it, and pretty much makes my entire 10ftx10ft room smell like some seriously good pot. I'm just curious what strain it could possibly be.
Have an opportunity to take shrooms in the next hour, first time with anything other than some pot, any tips? Shit like that? I love hearing about stuff people do on these kinds of things, any tips to get a really good trip?
[QUOTE=Froggeth;47784581]Have an opportunity to take shrooms in the next hour, first time with anything other than some pot, any tips? Shit like that? I love hearing about stuff people do on these kinds of things, any tips to get a really good trip?[/QUOTE]
Start with really small bits, wait thirty minutes, proceed if you are not having a decent trip.
Best words of advice is to stay calm, always be with a circle of friends you can trust, and for the love of all that is holy: Do not go play Alice in Wonderland in any nearby forest. You'll probably spend a few hours in the same patch of woods, confused as fuck.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;47784585]Start with really small bits, wait thirty minutes, proceed if you are not having a decent trip.
Best words of advice is to stay calm, always be with a circle of friends you can trust, and for the love of all that is holy: Do not go play Alice in Wonderland in any nearby forest. You'll probably spend a few hours in the same patch of woods, confused as fuck.[/QUOTE]
Ahaha i'll probably just stay at home, put on some music and not freak out, a bad trip sounds like hell on earth
[QUOTE=Froggeth;47784592]Ahaha i'll probably just stay at home, put on some music and not freak out, a bad trip sounds like hell on earth[/QUOTE]
If you can, get some antipsychotics. It's sorta the, one hour get jail free card, when it comes to anything like acid or shrooms.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;47784597]If you can, get some antipsychotics. It's sorta the, one hour get jail free card, when it comes to anything like acid or shrooms.[/QUOTE]
Doubt that'd be possible, would like to come into this thread posting for advice during but is PUI bannable here still?
Depending on how much you can take, take as much as possible in one go.
Also im finally getting my lazy ass around to working on my personal website
I'm starting therapy this summer, and possibly go on an SSRI. Anxiety fucking sucks and I'm tired of automatic negative thoughts constantly poisoning my mind and mood
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