I think after Friday I'm gonna wean myself down a bit and take a week off benzos, they've been getting a bit too attractive lately
Like took another .5mg an hour ago, and I just took another .5mg just now and I'm considering another .5mg on top of that to make the night more interesting
irc: 198.46.153.159:6667
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I'll probably get a bot setup tomorrow unless no one really cares about that.
[QUOTE=zach1193;47076137]That still doesn't really go against what he said though. You're still you and nothing has changed except you and your perspective. I guess what I'm saying is nothing in reality changed, just your angle on it, but in your case that angle stuck a bit more, doesn't disprove what isak said.[/QUOTE]
Another thing psychedelics has taught us is that perception IS reality. As the quote says, i wouldn't have seen it if i had not believed it. Some people mean when they describe beings or aliens in their trip reports, a representation of the plant spirit or soul. Not the craziest thing to believe in considering Christianity is still popular.
Anyone who believes there's true significant external (as apposed to realistic) changes when talking a drug is experiencing pyschosis or some form of it.
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ALSO there IS a connectedness between everything and everyone. A feeling of it can seem like the flood gates bursting open with realization and appappreciation. Consider dna, evolution, biological features like symbiosis. Humans have shared symbiotic relationships with plants for millions of years.
A friend met some girl who lives in the mainland on Fling, and after they texted for a bit she invited him over and said he could bring friends and ferry over for a weekend. So, he's bringing me and another friend along. The thing is, she's like super fucking rich and apparently gets free weed like every day. She sent a picture and it looked pure purple.
I'm kinda skeptical about this, she definitely lives in a huge house judging from the pictures she sent, but the weed pic she sent was completely purple; no green or even orange whatsoever. I think it's awesome, but I also don't know if it's real or not. If it is, oh man we'll probably get so fucking high and we'll be in a rich person's house and oh god it sounds too good to be trueeeee
Though I shudder to think about what might happen if it isn't real
I'm bout to do some stupid shit to get cash. Fuuuuck
Happy birthday to me, gonna get toasted on this DMT. The plug's loaded and melted...let's hope I have the balls to inhale like a champ.
[QUOTE=Draginz;47078185]I'm bout to do some stupid shit to get cash. Fuuuuck[/QUOTE]
tell us more
[QUOTE=cody8295;47077825]Another thing psychedelics has taught us is that perception IS reality. As the quote says, i wouldn't have seen it if i had not believed it. Some people mean when they describe beings or aliens in their trip reports, a representation of the plant spirit or soul. Not the craziest thing to believe in considering Christianity is still popular.
Anyone who believes there's true significant external (as apposed to realistic) changes when talking a drug is experiencing pyschosis or some form of it.
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ALSO there IS a connectedness between everything and everyone. A feeling of it can seem like the flood gates bursting open with realization and appappreciation. Consider dna, evolution, biological features like symbiosis. Humans have shared symbiotic relationships with plants for millions of years.[/QUOTE]
But that's just not true the perception is reality bit anyway. If your personal perception of the world being reality was true, then no one other than yourself would truly exist. And if taking certain drugs are the only way you can find this "truth" than it isn't a truth at all, it's the drug doing what it does when you take it, and nothing more than what you make of it. We all exist as seperate human beings, we all have our own thoughts and perceptions of the world. reality is the world around us, not our perception of it. I stand firm in this belief because if anything, psychs should prove what I'm saying. You go however long without taking psychs and the world was always the same, you woke up every morning and your room was still where it was, nothing was disturbed without explaination, then you take this drug, have this great experience and alteration of perception, but afterwards, you still come back to REALITY where you wake up the next morning and everything and everyone is still there, still the same things you've come to recognize and personalities you've met. By all means not attacking and feel free to believe what you'd like, this is just what I think.
I think opiates may be the cause for my anxiety. I've been having some fucked up dreams lately and most of the time they follow a pretty heavy dose of pills or H, and I've been waking up crazy anxious. You guys know anything about that?
[QUOTE=The Aussie;47071558]Since we don't have post high music thread anymore, i'll post something i've been listening to a lot lately.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciwoMMP5t90[/media][/QUOTE]
saw flume at leeds fest last year, he did a live mashup of higher and juicy while i was peaking the fuck out
wheeeew
[QUOTE=zach1193;47080072]But that's just not true the perception is reality bit anyway. If your personal perception of the world being reality was true, then no one other than yourself would truly exist. And if taking certain drugs are the only way you can find this "truth" than it isn't a truth at all, it's the drug doing what it does when you take it, and nothing more than what you make of it. We all exist as seperate human beings, we all have our own thoughts and perceptions of the world. reality is the world around us, not our perception of it. I stand firm in this belief because if anything, psychs should prove what I'm saying. You go however long without taking psychs and the world was always the same, you woke up every morning and your room was still where it was, nothing was disturbed without explaination, then you take this drug, have this great experience and alteration of perception, but afterwards, you still come back to REALITY where you wake up the next morning and everything and everyone is still there, still the same things you've come to recognize and personalities you've met. By all means not attacking and feel free to believe what you'd like, this is just what I think.[/QUOTE]
Obviously, the only thing that [i]physically[/i] changes is the chemical balance in your brain, but your view on a lot of things can change significantly. Psilocybin changed how I see myself, MXE changed how I see death, and MDMA changed how I see emotions, stress, love, and even my religious views.
[QUOTE=/B/rother;47079198]tell us more[/QUOTE]
I've used less than savoury tactics to "persuade" people into giving me free drugs, the sad thing is that it almost always works.
Besdies that, well, I try not to incriminate myself over the internet for something that could put me behind bars for many years, but I'll tell you this: goddamn adrenaline.
[QUOTE=Draginz;47080979]I've used less than savoury tactics to "persuade" people into giving me free drugs, the sad thing is that it almost always works.
Besdies that, well, I try not to incriminate myself over the internet for something that could put me behind bars for many years, but I'll tell you this: goddamn adrenaline.[/QUOTE]
scamming dark net distributors? Running a review service? Sending them pics of ur butt?
I don't really wanna know
[QUOTE=Lick;47081706]scamming dark net distributors? Running a review service? Sending them pics of ur butt?
I don't really wanna know[/QUOTE]
punching them in the dick and taking their drugs
[QUOTE=zach1193;47080072]But that's just not true the perception is reality bit anyway. If your personal perception of the world being reality was true, then no one other than yourself would truly exist. And if taking certain drugs are the only way you can find this "truth" than it isn't a truth at all, it's the drug doing what it does when you take it, and nothing more than what you make of it. We all exist as seperate human beings, we all have our own thoughts and perceptions of the world. reality is the world around us, not our perception of it. I stand firm in this belief because if anything, psychs should prove what I'm saying. You go however long without taking psychs and the world was always the same, you woke up every morning and your room was still where it was, nothing was disturbed without explaination, then you take this drug, have this great experience and alteration of perception, but afterwards, you still come back to REALITY where you wake up the next morning and everything and everyone is still there, still the same things you've come to recognize and personalities you've met. By all means not attacking and feel free to believe what you'd like, this is just what I think.[/QUOTE]
I think what is important to point out here is that yes, 'reality' or rather our environment is unchanged after drug use, but perspective is really what matters overall, beyond reality. The point that cody and others are trying to hammer home is that perspective is what gives us the ability to create meaning in life. If you were a human with simple input output mechanics and went through life always taking the safe option, not questioning anything, always simply calculating the best ratio or probability of a situation that would be a very boring and pointless life. What is most important about ones life is their experiences with the environment (and the self, as I see the self being part of ones surroundings). In reality everything is objective and acting on its own accord with no conscious thought or calculation, things just are as they are. But with perspective we can add meaning to natural phenomena which can then help us predict, manipulate, or obscure the reality. A cloud in the sky is just a bunch of evaporated water until you add perspective and turn it into a cow. A assortment of chemical oils on a paper canvas is nothing more than slobber until you add perspective and realize its a painting of a chair. Drugs allow you to shape your world differently even if that means the environment itself is left unchanged.
There's a sociological phenomena where it explains how we as humans/community create reality on a daily basis. (Now I know here we are going to get into a debate of the semantics of what reality means, just remember that all human language is subjective and we bend these definitions to how we see fit.) Anyway there was a news story about a small Christian elementary school in the US. Rumors in this little school started to arise that the school was in fact being run by satanists, claiming silly shit like they were being taught satanic teachings or pentagrams hidden in children's crafts or decorations in the classroom. Parents get word of this and it spreads like wildfire. To calm the parents down and to ensure this was a Christian school they actually had to start putting crosses [I]everywhere[/I], on each classroom door, putting them in the hallways, and cafeteria. The society deemed the satanic threat as 'real' so much so that they actually acted on it by changing the environment which previously had not been changed. That's the main point here, if a society/perspective deems a certain thing 'true' then they will act as if it is true. If drugs are able to change your perspective on the environment and reassign meaning, then effectively it is changing your reality. Sure the physical world didn't change, but the meaning behind it has, which is really what matters. Without a sense of meaning there is no reason to live, interact, or change the environment, it is just is.
That is a beautiful post, like god damn
I've been thinking of all this stuff because I'm working on a human-like AI right now, and that post has got me thinking about how to get it to really "perceive" things
I think I've now broken a 6-7 month record with this t-break, I'm on day 4
It's really difficult when I have 10g+ of dank shit just sitting in my drawer calling to me, maybe I should have a friend hold onto my shit in the future
[QUOTE=.Isak.;47081793]punching them in the dick and taking their drugs[/QUOTE]
oh real people
nicceee
So I will have in my possession about 15 oxy 15's... would this be enough to taper with and how would I go about doing so?
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[QUOTE=Mr. Bleak;47080133]I think opiates may be the cause for my anxiety. I've been having some fucked up dreams lately and most of the time they follow a pretty heavy dose of pills or H, and I've been waking up crazy anxious. You guys know anything about that?[/QUOTE]
yea lack of opiates after heavy use can certainly heighten anxiety.
Thinking about buying a brick of hash to resell
What if we're all living in a computer simulation, and when we die we're put into robot bodies and learn that we just experienced something very similar to a full life on the planets we're on, before all the biological life went extinct for whatever reason (global warning or nuclear war or whatever). And all the robots are meant to carry on the legacy of that species, and the robot brain is developed to be identical to your "human" brain from within the simulation so the species can live forever
Why do people still insist on spelling heroin "heroine" it's most certainly not a female super hero role. I always assumed it was because of how morphine and codeine end in the INE suffix.
My friend Skyped the girl he met on Fling. She's real and not actually a bunch of guys looking to fuck some people over
I'm a believer
my mom flushed my weed and broke my bowl but i'm too stoned to be mad lol
[QUOTE=Shark Cat;47082864]my mom flushed my weed and broke my bowl but i'm too stoned to be mad lol[/QUOTE]
Priorities in order.
[QUOTE=ZenX2;47082104]What if we're all living in a computer simulation, and when we die we're put into robot bodies and learn that we just experienced something very similar to a full life on the planets we're on, before all the biological life went extinct for whatever reason (global warning or nuclear war or whatever). And all the robots are meant to carry on the legacy of that species, and the robot brain is developed to be identical to your "human" brain from within the simulation so the species can live forever[/QUOTE]
Then we'll find out after we move on.
[QUOTE=Draginz;47080979]I've used less than savoury tactics to "persuade" people into giving me free drugs, the sad thing is that it almost always works.
Besdies that, well, I try not to incriminate myself over the internet for something that could put me behind bars for many years, but I'll tell you this: goddamn adrenaline.[/QUOTE]
You really shouldn't do that. I meet someone who would do anything to get coke and I ended up using it against him for free coke. There are a lot of people who want to bash in his head now due to money he's owes. Good thing he jumped ship out of the province. Once you piss off the wrong person you'll regret it and it won't be worth the drugs in the end.
Also I feel more messed up when I'm sober then when I am high.
Which I don't even understand how that works.
[QUOTE=zach1193;47080072]But that's just not true the perception is reality bit anyway. If your personal perception of the world being reality was true, then no one other than yourself would truly exist. And if taking certain drugs are the only way you can find this "truth" than it isn't a truth at all, it's the drug doing what it does when you take it, and nothing more than what you make of it. We all exist as seperate human beings, we all have our own thoughts and perceptions of the world. reality is the world around us, not our perception of it. I stand firm in this belief because if anything, psychs should prove what I'm saying. You go however long without taking psychs and the world was always the same, you woke up every morning and your room was still where it was, nothing was disturbed without explaination, then you take this drug, have this great experience and alteration of perception, but afterwards, you still come back to REALITY where you wake up the next morning and everything and everyone is still there, still the same things you've come to recognize and personalities you've met. By all means not attacking and feel free to believe what you'd like, this is just what I think.[/QUOTE]
I'm not trying to prove in any way that taking drugs will change anything around you directly. The truth you can find from the drugs are surely from your own mind, but remember that mostly everything you know about is learned, not innate or natural. So what does come out of your experience is coming not only from subconcious thoughts but also subconcious memories, in other words, even if you had total control over an lsd trip, you're still going to have a unique experience whether you want one or not. When you become aware of yourself and everything about yourself, you feel the need to improve and grow. They're definitely a tool that HAVE affected reality, albeit indirectly through poets and musicians and philosophophers and the shaman.
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Philosophophers? Lol
[QUOTE=Amic;47082967]Then we'll find out after we move on.[/QUOTE]
This idea is so stuck in my head that I started writing a short story based on it, like what if there was a group of robots that went to dead worlds and brought back the extinct species in Cylon-like bodies
I want to try to get a first draft before to long and expand on that rather than getting a third of the way through it and giving up
This week has been less of a t-break and more a tour of exploring a different drug each day, I'm not sure how I feel about that
I just took some Focalin because yesterday's (small) benzo adventure has left me a complete blob today, considering taking more for the fuck of it but that'll just leave me more fucked up tomorrow
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I took a bit more after all and now I'm hyperactive as fuuuuck, just like yeah lets exercise right nowww
So so so much better without a tolerance to it
I railed the last of the coke I have, which was a few monster lines. Time to clean my room and never buy coke again.
Or at least take a long ass break (8 months+) before buying it again. I have too many people I know getting too into it.
I took one last Focalin IR so I'm up to around ~15mg, and I just remembered I have a PC full of gameesss
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