i like to think that whenever i wake and bake, somewhere in the world at that same time there is a completely plastered you
[QUOTE=geel9;47209519]I really like weed but I'm 18 so I don't want to do it too much because I enjoy being intelligent.
What's better than weed but not really dangerous? I've heard LSD is pretty safe?[/QUOTE]
i've been smoking weed daily since about sixteen and a half years old, now i'm just shy of 19 and i still smoke almost every day and am doing well above average in a very competitive computer engingeering program.
intelligence is subjective. be who you want to be because the weed doesn't change that, you do
[QUOTE=FFStudios;47224464]i've been smoking weed daily since about sixteen and a half years old, now i'm just shy of 19 and i still smoke almost every day and am doing well above average in a very competitive computer engingeering program.
intelligence is subjective. be who you want to be because the weed doesn't change that, you do[/QUOTE]
Cannabis does have a consistently reported effect of negatively affecting cognitive development even though it doesn't make adult users "dumber".
edit: even though you turned out totally fine it most likely did affect your brains development so even though it's ok to "be who you want to be" it's best to consider this.
The thing is, everybody is different. There are people who just can't handle weed because it makes them panic, there are people who get dumb after smoking too much and/or too often (like me) and there are people like Chong, for whom it just works wonders. It's different for everyone, and that's what people should realize.
I feel many people smoke way too much and get affected by it, but deny it because "there's no fact that says it does that"
We all have different brain chemestry.
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For me, if I smoke too much I get anxiety and my cognitive abilites get worse. Yet I know people who smoke all day and are just fine.
Working on a new track, thought it would be relevant to post it here since it was made mostly under the influence.
[media]http://soundcloud.com/gryoss/fast-forward-time-traveling-demon-early-wip-1[/media]
Quietapine puts my ass OUT. I even see cartoon characters float around my vision when my eyes are closed in the dark. I haven't smoked as much the past few days because I've been so sedated by the Seroquil. Picking up more Xanax today because I had a run in with the neighbor that proved to me I'm not stable enough on my meds and I shouldn't have a gun within reach when my adrenaline starts pumping like it did. I kept yelling "YOU BETTER THANK GOD FOR XANAX!!" I was so enraged I was ready to fight, kill, shatter windows, and pop tires. After my last xanax calmed me down I realized how retardedly worked up I was with anger. I really have to control it better. I don't want to live in prison for losing my cool and murdering some asshole who tries to bully me into getting their way.
[QUOTE=CoilingTesla;47225405]Quietapine puts my ass OUT. I even see cartoon characters float around my vision when my eyes are closed in the dark. I haven't smoked as much the past few days because I've been so sedated by the Seroquil. Picking up more Xanax today because I had a run in with the neighbor that proved to me I'm not stable enough on my meds and I shouldn't have a gun within reach when my adrenaline starts pumping like it did. I kept yelling "YOU BETTER THANK GOD FOR XANAX!!" I was so enraged I was ready to fight, kill, shatter windows, and pop tires. After my last xanax calmed me down I realized how retardedly worked up I was with anger. I really have to control it better. I don't want to live in prison for losing my cool and murdering some asshole who tries to bully me into getting their way.[/QUOTE]
I always think how lucky I am I never got into benzos much. I still haven't even taken the 2 Ativans I've been saving for months even though there have been nights I've seriously considered it.
I honestly don't see the recreational use of benzos. If I want to feel drunk I'll drink alcohol :\
I don't really fuck with benzos like that. I don't take them recreationally. I have been starting to drink though, and that probably doesn't help.
The lexapro definitely isn't doing it's job anymore, if it ever did. So I need to talk to my doctor. Especially about my anger and attention span. The xanax is a god-send though. If it wasn't for that .5mg I might have done something stupid or violent.
Weird, KP said I couldn't get a refill for the Xanax, but I guess they allow it under certain circumstances. I just got a refill for 10 more .5's alprazolam for $5. I'm definitely gonna keep one on me for situations like the other day. I didn't realize how strong my adrenaline response was, so I gotta keep myself in check for sure. I was thinking of getting a CCW permit and a handgun, but I really don't think that's a good idea currently. I gotta be a lot more stable emotionally during a confrontation to feel responsible carrying a firearm.
[QUOTE=geel9;47222923]Long-term, consistent use of marijuana when a brain is still developing (which, for males, can continue into their mid 20s) has a marked effect on the vocabulary and memory recollection of individuals.
I'm 18. My brain is clearly still developing. It's absurd to think that you can continue to take [B]a drug[/B], which marijuana is, consistently for a long amount of time and have no consequences.
That said, what's the best way ATM to purchase things on Tor? I hear the name Agora quite often.[/QUOTE]
I mean I can say controversial topics just as much, but anandamide really doesnt do much damage in high doses (Anandamide is what THC emulates, which reduces the refractory period of a neuron).
At the "A drug" thing, woah there man. Advil is a drug, ginseng is a drug, and looking at the sun is a drug (increases dopamine). Just because something is a drug does not imply anything about the health factors associated.
I highly believe you can take marijuana with little to no consequence, mainly due to the fact there are CB1 and CB2 receptors in the brain and body which are explicitly made for marijuana and it's cannabinoids which are [B]already in the brain.[/B] That being said though we do have an endo-opiod system as well, but opium is... not a good idea.
Agora or Evolution.
[QUOTE=Charrax;47226551]I mean I can say controversial topics just as much, but anandamide really doesnt do much damage in high doses (Anandamide is what THC emulates, which reduces the refractory period of a neuron).
At the "A drug" thing, woah there man. Advil is a drug, ginseng is a drug, and looking at the sun is a drug (increases dopamine). Just because something is a drug does not imply anything about the health factors associated.
I highly believe you can take marijuana with little to no consequence, mainly due to the fact there are CB1 and CB2 receptors in the brain and body which are explicitly made for marijuana and it's cannabinoids which are [B]already in the brain.[/B] That being said though we do have an endo-opiod system as well, but opium is... not a good idea.
Agora or Evolution.[/QUOTE]
Everything you listed has consequences for continued, frequent exposure...
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Marijuana is a fantastic drug and it certainly won't make you stupid. It's just naive to think, however, that a developing mind can handle frequent high-dose exposure to a psychoactive drug and it won't change the way that brain develops.
[QUOTE=geel9;47226619]Everything you listed has consequences for continued, frequent exposure...
[editline]27th February 2015[/editline]
Marijuana is a fantastic drug and it certainly won't make you stupid. It's just naive to think, however, that a developing mind can handle frequent high-dose exposure to a psychoactive drug and it won't change the way that brain develops.[/QUOTE]
First off I did that purposefully. Yeah, everything is bad in super high doses for a long time. Hence my point.
Well yeah but I find the herb wont give that much of a dosage to cause damage, unless you're constantly smoking.
However, everything I said is not true when you bring hashoil/dabs into the mix. Those are addictive and can cause problems.
Everything I see, hear, do, and ingest changes the allostatic balance of the brain, so what's the point in being perfect/pure? We all die. Life is death, and living purely inside yourself won't bring you any closer to being a better you. Being sheltered all my childhood, never learning how to work hard or interact with people I can't get along with, therefor being a bad student and being bullied by my peers definitely did more damage to my life then smoking weed when I was 16.
The way I see it now, I am a part of everything, as everything is a part of me. The plants are one with the insects, the insects are one with the birds, just as time is one with distance, life is one with death. -Typing shit like this out never gets the point across that's in my head unfortunately, Its always been difficult for me to communicate my ideas concisely.
I didn't realize until yesterday that all my life, subconsciously, I've lived by [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Jante"]Jante Law[/URL]; though I don't partake in discouragement of those with accomplishments (like people spitting on the owner of a successful Italian restaurant in Denmark), I just see them as an equal, but with particular success in society or other ways of life. I don't really talk to anyone in a negative way unless I am provoked, but knowing my sensitivity towards brazeness and aggression, I can definitely be a bit of a spur myself.
And such is another moment stuck in reflection. Everybody's right though, I do gotta smoke less and try being sober for awhile. fuck
[QUOTE=Falchion;47224616]
edit: even though you turned out totally fine it most likely did affect your brains development so even though it's ok to "be who you want to be" it's best to consider this.[/QUOTE]
i'm also medical so i mean, to me i'm willing to risk potential developmental issues in exchange for the utter hellmarch i'd be on through life without it. i get your point though
You know the day is gonna be interesting when the first thing you do is hit the bong so hard your vision goes blurry...
[QUOTE=PandaJuggernaut;47230826]You know the day is gonna be interesting when the first thing you do is hit the bong so hard your vision goes blurry...[/QUOTE]
I hate wake and bakes to be honest, my blood sugar is always low so I get really tired and fall back asleep
I have so many crazy memories to tell my kids if I ever have any and can still remember all this shit then.
Did dabs and coke with the ex last night. Talked through some intense alcohol addiction crises. Someday we'll be alright.
How many people have used a Netti-pot to clear their sinuses of coke to go to sleep? odd life experiences, yo
[QUOTE=CoilingTesla;47231420]How many people have used a Netti-pot to clear their sinuses of coke to go to sleep? odd life experiences, yo[/QUOTE]
Shit that's actually a good idea.
I have one but I've never used it for that :v
Starting a new job tomorrow. Finally gonna start making a living for myself.
I hope I don't spend too much on drugs.
Also, updated that track I put up in the pageking. If 'yall want it's available for download. Hardcore electro shit, turned out more youtube poop style than I hoped haha
[t]http://i.imgur.com/pSUfMjF.jpg[/t]
[media]http://soundcloud.com/gryoss/fast-forward-time-traveling-speed-demon[/media]
[QUOTE=Charrax;47227029]
However, everything I said is not true when you bring hashoil/dabs into the mix. Those are addictive and can cause problems.[/QUOTE]
How are dabs addictive? Haven't had the pleasure seeing any irl, so when you say that I think of those silly news videos where they compared dabs to crack.
I wouldn't say dabs are any more addictive than any other form of THC. Though, the sheer dose of THC from wax/concentrates puts you much further from baseline without you noticing as much.
You [i]could[/i] compare weed is to wax, as a low dose of adderall is to smoking methamphetamine, but even that is far fetched. Apples to oranges really.
[QUOTE=Chicken_Chaser;47232019]How are dabs addictive? Haven't had the pleasure seeing any irl, so when you say that I think of those silly news videos where they compared dabs to crack.[/QUOTE]
Dabs are addictive when people do only dabs. Quitting herb and only doing dabs is addictive, there is also withdrawal. Same with hashish. Mainly it is due to the sheer amount of drug that you do when you do hash/dabs.
Not as addictive as crack, not nearly. But still addictive. Also it skyrockets your tolerance.
But doing the occasional or rare dab is fine.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/7GciMUB.png[/img]
Why is my weed making me just fall asleep? I woke up this morning at about 9AM and smoked a tiny bit of a blunt I had lying around lasted around 1 hour and fell back asleep then at 5:30PM I thought I'd be fine because I slept a lot, but no I smoked a lot more and I was still exhausted
So I got a surprise saliva drug test today.
I took a little mdma 4 days ago, and it says online that max detection range is 3 days. However, I have not been drinking a lot of water for the past 3 days, mostly drinking alcohol which isn't good.
I'm good though right? Even with the alcohol I had that one day extra day, right? RIGHT?!?!
[QUOTE=Comrade_Eko;47234227]So I got a surprise saliva drug test today.
I took a little mdma 4 days ago, and it says online that max detection range is 3 days. However, I have not been drinking a lot of water for the past 3 days, mostly drinking alcohol which isn't good.
I'm good though right? Even with the alcohol I had that one day extra day, right? RIGHT?!?![/QUOTE]
Its not my place to say but your fucked im sorry man. Dont cave in whatever happens you'll make it dude. However there might be a very small chance ur off the hook.
[QUOTE=Comrade_Eko;47234227]So I got a surprise saliva drug test today.
I took a little mdma 4 days ago, and it says online that max detection range is 3 days. However, I have not been drinking a lot of water for the past 3 days, mostly drinking alcohol which isn't good.
I'm good though right? Even with the alcohol I had that one day extra day, right? RIGHT?!?![/QUOTE]
You started taking a new prescription medication, but you definitely have not ever or ever will do mdma, right?
[I]right??[/I]
Good luck mate, I hope your results are negative, or at least a believable false-positive.
went to a metal club on e
it was fucking intense
[QUOTE=Comrade_Eko;47234227]So I got a surprise saliva drug test today.
I took a little mdma 4 days ago, and it says online that max detection range is 3 days. However, I have not been drinking a lot of water for the past 3 days, mostly drinking alcohol which isn't good.
I'm good though right? Even with the alcohol I had that one day extra day, right? RIGHT?!?![/QUOTE]
Mdma isn't tested for in standard saliva drug tests, you'll be fine as long as they are using a basic one.
The reason dabs and wax is seen as more addictive is because how most drugs follow the same addiction rate as you change the intensity/dosage. I've mentioned this before, how cocaine as a drug can be both the least addictive and most addictive drug at the same time, it all comes down to how it hits your brain. If you simply chew on a coca leaf or use the leaf to make a tincture or tea, then yeah you are going to feel the effects of more energy, less appetite, etc. This method of use is shown to have little to non existent addiction rates. This is because not only are you taking less of the drug, but the way you take it (by eating) you force the drug through the stomach/stomach lining, intestines, liver, blood in your system, and the blood brain barrier. Then lets say you modify the drug so it can be smoked (crack) or injected, now you are bypassing all of those defenses and hitting your brain all at once instead of 'trickling in'. That is why you see high rates of addiction to crack than coca leaves. The harder it hits your brain (harder meaning, it could be sheer increase in dosage or ability to reach brain quicker) the more profound effect it will have on the brain. If you are introducing more stimulus to the brain then you should expect enhanced reactions to said stimulus.
Wax is to weed as hard liquor is to booze. With any drug you are going to have people trying to find out how to make it more pure and enhance whatever effects they serve. So dabs and wax should absolutely be looked at with caution. I'm not saying its the new crack or meth like those moronic news stories, but they should be seen with a risk like any drug. Trying a dab for a special occasion or occasional thing shouldn't be problematic, but when you start dabbing and shit all day it is not that much different from an alcoholic drinking hard liquor throughout the day. Again drugs effect everyone differently yadda yadda, its more of public information than telling people how to live their life.
This brings me to the discussion about daily cannabis use above. The brain is very much affected by everything in it's environment and as such changes constantly as we go through life. Some changes are good, some changes are bad (good and bad being subjective of course), but I feel like you are all agreeing to the same thing but coming from different viewpoints. We are not here to judge people on their drug use because we very well know each life experience is different and thus every reaction to drugs or stimuli can be different. That we very much agree on. The brain is still a very mysterious organ in the sense we haven't 'unlocked' the truths about it and how it works. So if we don't know as much as we would like about the brain, then how are we supposed to look at legal drugs? Yes legal drugs can be good and bad, at the same time a lot of shit in life ain't black and white, so why do we hold this outside of that standard? Here is just another sociological conundrum where humans wish to be all knowledgeable (the brain loves pattern and order) and drugs/brain is very far from uncovered. So what do we do, we try our damn best at learning it and understanding it, and if we cannot fill all the holes we try our best with [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor]Occam's Razor[/url]. Humans very much so follow established societal norms, and guess what doctors and scientists are seen as trustworthy parties who try their best at solving problems. So for those of us who do not have the opportunity or desire to become a doc or whatnot, we suspend our own judgment believing that there is someone who [I]did[/I] the work and try to teach or provide others with a solution. Those motivations for creating a 'solution' can always be misconstrued or disingenuous depending on the person, but the fact that all we can do is take other humans word for things (along with public agreeance of said person) that we haven't had the chance to experience ourselves.
All of this talk leads me to this, humans are not gods, we are faulty as hell. We have conflicting societal norms, faulty bodies, and incredibly in group out group biased. Evolution is not some finely crafted process that purposefully weeds out "[B]good[/B]" or "[B]bad[/B]" qualities, things happen by sheer chance. We have our sexual organs right next to our sewage disposal system, that shit just happened because of billions of years of domino effects. At this point it's getting a bit rambling but what happens and what is, is just that, [I]is[/I]. Decreasing a certain cognitive function in the brain of one person could be a godsend where another person it can be devastating. My point is that the people who are scientists come from a philosophy of how they think the body should work. They look at the majority population, try to come up with the 'general' body ideal and try to improve upon it, whether it be enhancements or repairs. With this bias they can then describe how they [I]think[/I] it should work, and give their evidence and case for it. Then as a [B]society[/B] we either agree or disagree as long as the evidence is up to [I]our[/I] standards and is in accordance with pre-established social norms. We as a society create our perceptions of reality, so before we jump on the 'objective' bandwagon just realize that the very act of being human and a part of this societal system means that everything we communicate through language is 'subjective' by nature. Not to say subjectivity is bad, but it is just how humans work on a conscious level.
At this point I'm re-reading my post and realizing how ramble-ly its getting, I just hope what you take away from this is that nothing humans say is absolute and it is important not to become obsessed over 'objectivity' but rather its important to look at everything with a grey area and not black and white. Your brain has the amazing capability of looking at problems from infinite perspectives, so please consider the possibilities as much as you can as well as absorb and discard them as life goes on.
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