• Teaching homosexuality in school
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[QUOTE=Zeke129;32404689]You're confusing pedophiles with child molesters.[/QUOTE]Oh shit, you're are right. My mistake
[QUOTE=angelangel;32419370]If they can choose then surely they're bisexual?[/QUOTE] Or surely they don't even give a fuck.
[QUOTE=psychojake;32417584]I don't see public schools teaching classes about religion or life-styles[/QUOTE] What kind of shit school did you go to that didn't teach you about other religions?
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;32427941]What kind of shit school did you go to that didn't teach you about other religions?[/QUOTE] That's a good school in my book. ;) Religion shouldn't be taught, at ALL. Sure people should tolerate it, but most people do anyway so why bother wasting time telling them something they know already.
[QUOTE=Legend286;32432729]That's a good school in my book. ;) Religion shouldn't be taught, at ALL. Sure people should tolerate it, but most people do anyway so why bother wasting time telling them something they know already.[/QUOTE] A good school is one that ignores something that billions of people practice everyday, and how [I]individually[/I] each major religion has had an enormous effect on shaping thousands of years of human history?
[QUOTE=Legend286;32432729]That's a good school in my book. ;) Religion shouldn't be taught, at ALL. Sure people should tolerate it, but most people do anyway so why bother wasting time telling them something they know already.[/QUOTE] That's crazy talk. Like it or not, religion still plays a massive role in the world. It is literally impossible to understand other cultures and the history of nations without first having at least a basic knowledge of the religions and philosophies.
i think it should be taught, but really briefly, just so kids can understand what homosexuality is. it should not be shoved down their throats or advocated as the "right way" or anything like that, but they should tell kids that its perfectly natural and not a mental disorder. you people have to understand that many children have horrible parents who would be extremely pissed off if their son or daughter came out to them, especially if they are religious. many times school is the only place kids can go to learn about their minds and their bodies in a completely unbiased way. if there is one thing i have learned from life, its that your parents aren't always right.
What's there to teach? You're born gay. Boom that's it. No pagan or satanic rituals in the equation. I guess they could very briefly explain why a gay person is born gay.
[QUOTE=Chicken_Chaser;32437492]What's there to teach? You're born gay. Boom that's it. No pagan or satanic rituals in the equation.[/QUOTE] Stop it. No one knows exactly what it is that makes some organisms homosexual. Maybe you are born like that, maybe it's part of growing up, maybe it's a mix of everything. If you think you have solved this riddle, then apply yourself. There could be a Nobel prize in store for you.
Uhh why do you have to make errything so ridiculous. Of course, why the hell should it be left out? It's part of sexuality, it does not matter a shit whether you like it or not.
You know, as far as I can remember I'm pretty sure I kind of worked out what sex was on my own. I mean I have a thing that pokes out of my body, and girls have a thing that goes inside of them. It always kind of made intuitive sense to me even as a kid that one probably went into the other. I think I probably heard some older kids mention it too when I was young, but it wasn't like someone sat me down and talked to me about it. I just kind of pieced it together on my own. Are kids nowadays really that stupid that they can't piece together all of the sex stuff on their own? I know that doesn't really cover homosexuality but that's more a comment on the whole sex ed thing in school.
It doesn't have a place in school. Schools should only teach safety to do with sex, and the basic functions of sex, etc. Teaching homosexuality would be irrelevant and confusing to 95% of most classes being taught sex ed.
Learning about homosexuality was a part of sexual education in my school when i was 12-13. Two gay people also came to visit us and talk about it in class with us. I'm from Sweden so learning about this in school is completely normal. I must say it makes me very upset to know that there are countries and schools around the world that does not allow it. Because for me as a confused bisexual it was a very powerful lesson. Why is it not allowed? in my opinion it is mainly because of religion, but also because we are simply human. As social animals it is in our nature to copy eachothers views and beliefs. If the majority thinks homosexuality is something bad, progress towards free sexuality will be very slow. If you can't learn about it in a reliable school, it may become very easy to copy other people negative beliefs. But we humans are lucky! We have one really useful and good human trait.. We can think outside of the box ;) The future contains positive change.
[QUOTE=Man Without Hat;32439675]It doesn't have a place in school. Schools should only teach safety to do with sex, and the basic functions of sex, etc. Teaching homosexuality would be irrelevant and confusing to 95% of most classes being taught sex ed.[/QUOTE] Why Why should kids be taught the basics of sex and no more? What is so wrong with going in depth about sex?
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;32440389]Why Why should kids be taught the basics of sex and no more? What is so wrong with going in depth about sex?[/QUOTE] People should figure out a lot of it themself. As long as they know what can happen if you're not careful, etc, then they should be left to their own devices. Where's the fun in learning the entire thing in a classroom?
[QUOTE=sltungle;32439662]You know, as far as I can remember I'm pretty sure I kind of worked out what sex was on my own. I mean I have a thing that pokes out of my body, and girls have a thing that goes inside of them. It always kind of made intuitive sense to me even as a kid that one probably went into the other. I think I probably heard some older kids mention it too when I was young, but it wasn't like someone sat me down and talked to me about it. I just kind of pieced it together on my own. Are kids nowadays really that stupid that they can't piece together all of the sex stuff on their own? I know that doesn't really cover homosexuality but that's more a comment on the whole sex ed thing in school.[/QUOTE] This post mentions nothing about homosexuality and kind of does a good job of highlighting why kids should be made aware of it in school so they don't think it's strange or scary later and become bigots.
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;32442117]why should they learn it by themselves why not learn the details so when the time comes you know what the fuck you're doing[/QUOTE] Not knowing what you're doing (Besides from how to be safe and other obvious things) is half of the novelty.
[QUOTE=Man Without Hat;32442170]Not knowing what you're doing (Besides from how to be safe and other obvious things) is half of the novelty.[/QUOTE] And Fuck the novelty I was of the thought not knowing what you're doing was the embarrassment
[QUOTE=CrispexOps;32396608]Yes it is. No baby is born saying, "I like other men!" or "I like other women!" Sorry, everything you do in your life is a decision. I don't buy this "born this way" bullshit. What happened, was homosexuality used to be taboo, not accepted anywhere. Then, gay people saw this, wanted to change it, so started to say, "Oh, we were born this way!" to make it more widely accepted. It's like me saying I was born with an attraction to a particular hair color. It's a preference. I know a few gay people who say it is indeed a choice they made.[/QUOTE] When you where born, did you say, 'I like the opposite sex'?
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;32442319]And Fuck the novelty I was of the thought not knowing what you're doing was the embarrassment[/QUOTE] You'd have picked up more or less what to do before actually doing it. What I'm saying is it shouldn't be taught.
[QUOTE=Man Without Hat;32440854]People should figure out a lot of it themself. As long as they know what can happen if you're not careful, etc, then they should be left to their own devices. Where's the fun in learning the entire thing in a classroom?[/QUOTE] bullshit condoms, the pill, STDs and so on aren't something that a kid can just logically deduce.
[QUOTE=CrispexOps;32396608]Yes it is. No baby is born saying, "I like other men!" or "I like other women!" Sorry, everything you do in your life is a decision. I don't buy this "born this way" bullshit. What happened, was homosexuality used to be taboo, not accepted anywhere. Then, gay people saw this, wanted to change it, so started to say, "Oh, we were born this way!" to make it more widely accepted. It's like me saying I was born with an attraction to a particular hair color. It's a preference. I know a few gay people who say it is indeed a choice they made.[/QUOTE] If I had a choice, I'd be asexual. But I don't, because you can't choose your sexuality. Also what kind of stupid ass logic is that? First off, nobody announces their sexual preference at birth because we aren't even mature enough to start having those feelings about anyone. Also you sound like you believe all gay people are conspiring and making shit up.
[QUOTE=CrispexOps;32396608]I know a few gay people who say it is indeed a choice they made.[/QUOTE] I speak on behalf of all homosexuals, when I say it's not a choice. I think I know more about being gay than you do. I am gay. :)
I feel you shouldn't be teaching about it directly, but more about teaching tolerance.
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