The Amazing Aquarium Thread- Why is Fishy Sleeping Upside Down? - General

[QUOTE=FlakTheMighty;51936440]Nah humans can definitely get Ich, but unless you rub your eyes or something you're not going to have a problem. Just wash your hands immediately after handling the fish/water. It wouldn't even [I]potentially[/I] cause harm to you unless you have open sores either, our skin is too tough. However, it would almost immediately die out inside of us because of our body heat.[/QUOTE] I just pictured myself being covered in itchy white spots haha. :wideeye: Also, hopefully I won't have to deal with ich, just picked up new dithers! They are in the 29 now for observation/treatment. Picked up a baby tinfoil barb and 3 giant danios. Hope the tinfoil grows quick but slow enough to not be full size in a year! If he works out I will pick up 2-4 more. I'm going to try to sell the atromaculatus for 100 bucks at the first chance I get, too much of a hassle and I want them to go to an actual expert if possible. Lowball like that and they should be no problem to sell. Also the tinfoil is cute af. I'll post pics in a bit.

[QUOTE=Biotoxsin;51933969]If it doesn't respond to a treatment for hexamita and you suspect it is fungal, tread carefully. With exposure to [I]Saprolegnia[/I] you can lose your eyes in as little as two days, "ich" literally can dissolve your eyes. My advisor (a medical mycologist) advocated seeing an optometrist for an exam promptly.[/QUOTE] [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ichthyophthirius_multifiliis"]Ich[/URL] isn't Saprolegnia? They're both protists, they both can be treated with malachite green and/or formalin, and I'm pretty sure neither can infect humans with normal functioning immune systems. I can't even find cases of the immunocompromised being infected, but if you've got papers handy I'd love to read them. Where are you guys reading that humans can catch Ich? [QUOTE=GamerChick;51936404]Hmm weird. I thought one of the only communicable diseases to humans was fish TB? Weird! :chem101:[/QUOTE] There are lots of potential pathogens and toxins lurking in the aquarium. Liver flukes, staph, palytoxin/ciguatoxin are all possible. Most exposure to fishborne pathogens seems to come on the aquaculture side of things, mainly because hobbyists tend to take better care of their stock. It's a thing to think about, but you probably shouldn't worry too much. Wearing gloves while you work in your tank is probably the best practice, but mainly to prevent things on your body from getting in the tank, not the other way around.

Awesome! I have a few tanks at my work full of really interesting tropical fish. We have everything from a lionfish to an eel and even this ginormous giant clam. I like feeding the brittle star krill.

[QUOTE=1legmidget;51937810][URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ichthyophthirius_multifiliis"]Ich[/URL] isn't Saprolegnia? They're both protists, they both can be treated with malachite green and/or formalin, and I'm pretty sure neither can infect humans with normal functioning immune systems. I can't even find cases of the immunocompromised being infected, but if you've got papers handy I'd love to read them. Where are you guys reading that humans can catch Ich? [/QUOTE] I'd imagine he was meaning to suggest that "ich" is not always properly identified and used the term to categorically refer to fungal-like infections found in the aquarium. I'm surprised to see little literature on the subject, but wouldn't be surprised if he had some experience seeing [I]Saprolegnia[/I] in the human eye. Oomycete infections of the eye are certainly well documented, e.g. pythiosis. (I didn't think to question it at the time and it sort of stuck with me) If you keep the water out of your eyes and practice good hygiene after tank changes you'll be fine lol

Well, the Oscar seems to be healing; no more skin flakes, active behaviour and good appetite. Guess the issue was a bit of stress and a close encounter with a branch. Now, to stop the jewelfish from eating everything, as the guy now looks like a tadpole.

Ah yeah. Had jewel cichlids for a while. PIGGIES! Had to take them to the lfs though, salvini hated them.

Now I'm terrified of catching fish diseases and my fish catching human diseases. I've had a lot of fish over the years and I wonder how many of them I accidentally killed through a disease they've caught from me

[QUOTE=Dr.C;51942599]Now I'm terrified of catching fish diseases and my fish catching human diseases. I've had a lot of fish over the years and I wonder how many of them I accidentally killed through a disease they've caught from me[/QUOTE] It's honestly probably pretty unlikely provided you've got a healthy tank to begin with.

Made a deal on those rescued atromaculatus I have. Trading them for a HOB filter and a female salvini cichlid. Would have preferred some cash but they are going to a good home, that's what matters. Apparently the guy breeds all types of fish so I will see what he has. I know he has been trying to get rid of a small cuban cichlid, maybe I'll negotiate and get him too haha. Yee.

I don't have the effort to maintain a second aquarium. I don't want my goldfish to die but if he ever does, I'm putting in one of those fish that eats mosquito larvae since I can just pull them out of our turtle pond and feed it for free. How do you guys deal with cleaning out fish tanks with more than 2 fish or a very active fish? My goldfish just takes it and wriggles a little in the net when I move him into a temporary aquarium but I never have to worry about his fat ass jumping out(I still cover it so he can't)

I just wiggle my siphon around and it scares the bigger fish but the guppies think it's something they can fuck, then I just move the siphon away from them and they lose interest.

man i'm thinking of setting up another planted tank, currently I just have my 30g mixed reef(it's a snooze) and i've got the perfect space for at least a 20g tank :happy:

I just spilled like $2 worth of food. Fuck me

My cat once munched and destroyed a 15 dollar bag of hikari food. She spilled the rest and chewed the bag. Brat cat. Also dropped the fish off. Somehow they survived 2 hours of bad traffic. Also the guy's garage was full of 240 gallon breeding tanks. He had an umbee pushing 2'. The salvini he's giving me could almost fit in his mouth and she is like 6".

One of my Plecos disappeared at some point, thought he was just hiding any time I was looking. I found him when I was cleaning out the tank today. Thought it was kinda neat, never found the cartilage before, this explains why I haven't seen my Loach in a while though, he's been eating the Pleco. [t]http://i.imgur.com/kyNzE6wh.jpg[/t] The bottom right piece still has some meat/scales on it, it's the gray part.

Poor dude :C, at least mr loach got some nutrition! I wonder what part the cartilage is? Probably part of the head? I'm guessing the pleco maybe got trapped in something/croaked for some reason? Anyway the new salvini is doing good. Dear god she is fat af and HUGE. Easily 7", about as big as my small frontosa but wider. She is about 3 years old. She likes my male (who is tiny compared to her haha) so I think I will see eggies sometime soon. I had to move my male convict who instantly went into attack mode, he coulda done some damage to the salvini, he is almost as beefy. Haven't moved the female convict yet. Male salvini was a show off the instant the male convict was moved, he attacked the convict fry/mama. The mama put up a good fight, but 200 or so were munched, but I saved maybe 15. They are in my guppy tank. Here are some pics and a few short vids. Yes, the female salvini is beat up. The guy I got her from had another huge female and male and she was getting nipped at/beating the male up too haha: [IMG]http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb295/liopleurodonz/Mobile%20Uploads/20170313_101232_zpszxksl7bo.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb295/liopleurodonz/Mobile%20Uploads/20170313_101241_zpsrsaib1jf.jpg[/IMG] [video] [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89eRA4Npkxw[/url][/video] [video=youtube;k09dozJwVh8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k09dozJwVh8[/video] Mama was PISSED. She even liplocked the salvinis at one point, male got scratched up pretty good. Little bitch is 2" and mean as hell. I bet she would have a good fight against the guy I got the salvini from's 2' monster umbee.... before he swallowed her haha. This morning she is already bright freakin orange and ready to poop out more eggs too. If I can catch her she is going back with the male. [IMG]http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb295/liopleurodonz/Mobile%20Uploads/20170313_101302_zps1xpiaxeh.jpg[/IMG] :why:

Plecos are insane. I've had at least two get too big for my tanks and we had to donate them to my LFS. (place doesn't do buy backs) Big fuckers. I had a bumblebee cichlid named Bruno that was a mean bastard. We got him by mistake from Liveaquaria when we ordered Bumblebee gobys. Had two of them. Bruno killed his fellow bumblebee, and killed anything else we put in with him. After about 3 attempts to pair him up with another cichlid we just stopped and let him be the king of his own tank. However, he shared it with a albino pleco he grew up with, and that was the only fish he never fucked with. Because the pleco was the only thing that could put him in his place if he did. [editline]13th March 2017[/editline] Bruno did get along with one other Cichlid, actually. A little blue guy named Lorenzo. For some reason...

Hahah yeah, plecos are cool, but most get huge. I have that baby gibbiceps, can't wait for him to grow to 2+ feet long, he's already beautiful. Though I will need like a 240 gallon at least for that fatass. Affording that might be a problem if he grows too fast haha. :s: Got a baby choco pleco too, he seems to have hit a growth spurt, for the past few days he has been eating like crazy. Bye bye zucchini. In the past I've rehomed 2 or 3 rescued commons. LFS actually gave me cash for a big one, that guy was nearly a foot. Got 10 bucks!

I have no idea what was different today than any other time I've pumped the gravel and done a water change, my fish are acting all weird and my red tailed shark died. :cry: How can I know what I did wrong if I didn't do anything different? :suicide:

[QUOTE=FlakTheMighty;51954529]I have no idea what was different today than any other time I've pumped the gravel and done a water change, my fish are acting all weird and my red tailed shark died. :cry: How can I know what I did wrong if I didn't do anything different? :suicide:[/QUOTE] Did you use water from your tap? If so test it. It could be something going on in your local supply.

I realized that our water still has abnormally high ammonia when I decided to test my water a second time. Treated it with some Ammo-Lock as well as some additional bacteria just in case. Immediately a majority of the fish are acting normal, the only two that are still weird are the two cory cats. [editline]13th March 2017[/editline] I just tested straight water again. Still at 8.0+ ppm for ammonia. Guess calling the city and complaining means jack shit.

[QUOTE=FlakTheMighty;51954878]I realized that our water still has abnormally high ammonia when I decided to test my water a second time. Treated it with some Ammo-Lock as well as some additional bacteria just in case. Immediately a majority of the fish are acting normal, the only two that are still weird are the two cory cats.[/QUOTE] That sucks man. I hope your corys pull through. The water where I live is notoriously shit, so I use RO water mainly as a means to shield myself from fluctuations/contaminants (and also because liquid rock doesn't work so well for amazonian species). That won't help you much now, but it might be worth looking into in the future. [editline]13th March 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=FlakTheMighty;51954878] [editline]13th March 2017[/editline] I just tested straight water again. Still at 8.0+ ppm for ammonia. Guess calling the city and complaining means jack shit.[/QUOTE] Ammo lock is probably not the best option. I think it's just sodium thiosulfate and some amine salts. Try something that has sodium hydroxymethanesulfonate in it like AmQuel

I might as well just get a giant plastic trashcan and pretreat enough for an entire 25% then just siphon it in. [URL="https://www.amazon.com/Rubbermaid-Commercial-FG263256GRAY-Plastic-32-gallon/dp/B005KDAQ3I"]$37 for 32 gallons[/URL], that's more than 25% :v:

Good news - everyone survived the night and the cories are back to their normal never stopping selves.

Hmmm. I will probably come up with some care sheets/species info for beginner fish soon. Probably will write them out on my upcoming cross country train trip. Kinda nervous about leaving my fish alone for 10 days... Yeesh.

[t]http://i.imgur.com/fOWdu2t.jpg[/t] Bolvar got caught in the filter last night. While he was caught in the filter some of his friends saw him helpless and went "ooh food" and ate at his fins. His dorsal fin and tail fin have been pretty badly eaten. When I saw him stuck there I turned the filter off and he swam around, a little weirdly, but he still swam. He immediately went into the skull and went face down into the rocks, still breathing. I took a shower and when I came back out to check on him he was under the coral mountain thing, face down again and still breathing. I imagine he's in a lot of pain, and a lot of shock. Pull through little guy, you're the second longest living fish in the tank. :cry:

If the flow on the intake is a lot, strap a sponge on there. It will prevent fish from getting sucked in. I lose fry all the time from intakes when I forget to put those on.

None of my fish since my tetras have ever gotten caught on it, they've all been fine. So when the Tetra Genocide happened I took it off. :frown:

[QUOTE=FlakTheMighty;51968915] Bolvar got caught in the filter last night. While he was caught in the filter some of his friends saw him helpless and went "ooh food" and ate at his fins. His dorsal fin and tail fin have been pretty badly eaten. When I saw him stuck there I turned the filter off and he swam around, a little weirdly, but he still swam. He immediately went into the skull and went face down into the rocks, still breathing. I took a shower and when I came back out to check on him he was under the coral mountain thing, face down again and still breathing. I imagine he's in a lot of pain, and a lot of shock. Pull through little guy, you're the second longest living fish in the tank. :cry:[/QUOTE] That blows man. I too just had a fish get stuck in my filter intake, ironically the night before my pre-filter sponges were supposed to come in. LFS is complete shite and I bought a school of ember tetras against my better judgement. I tested the water in the bag as soon as I got home to get an idea of what I was dealing with. Nitrates were off the charts (which I expected), but the TDS was registering in the ppt range instead of ppm. I started with 22. I lost one day one after drip acclimating them over night. Turns out they were medicating the tank at the store. The fish came with Ich, internal parasites, and who knows what else. From the original batch of 22 I'm down to 12. I had 13, but after adding the embers to my display after an extensive quarantine, one of the buggers decided to get stuck to the filter intake basket. The survivors are bright, fat, and inquisitive at least.

I have my mom checking in on him periodically for me, he's still breathing. I'm going to pick up some stuff for him for stress if he's still breathing when I get off work. Be strong Bolvar.